i am planning to get a CPU Cooler for my comp. Planning to get either Scythe Infinity or Zalman CNPS9500-LED, but i am more tend toward CNPS9500-LED. the problem now is i am not sure whether Zalman CNPS9500 can fit into my mobo or not due to 'Dual Power System 2' card that located beside my processor socket. can you guys have a look and advise me on this? i already pm moderno and zalman official but they didnt provide me with any answer. that's why, i am asking it here.

edited: considering xp 90C too now.

My Mobo Official Website (GA-8KNXP)

picture from my casing


as you can see above, i am worry that the blue glowing card will block my new CPU Cooler. pls enlight me, thx in advance.

EDITED: i decided to get those cpu cooler from thermalright. so just want to know whether is Ultra 90 or HR-01. which one is better? ppl that had used it, pls give me some feedback. thx ar... pls refer post #30 for more info.

This post has been edited by irangan: Dec 4 2006, 12:36 PM

Hmm....Infinity will not fit on it..Donno about the zalman one.

there goes one of my option. sigh sigh..

Damn, that DPS sure block users from using nice nice heatsink...

ya lo... sad case.. any recommendation for me?

I don't dare to recommend a heatsink for you as a slight bigger, then it won't fit in you're motherboard...

Afraid later you will blame me for it...

errr.... at least give me some brand, so that i can do some research ma. currently looking at xp 90C. looks small enough to fit my mobo

try to measure the space u have
and refer to the size of the heatsink, u can get their measurements from their official website.... maybe some only..
worth giving a try

did that... seem zalman 9500 and infinity cannot fit because the fan from DPS block their way. SIGH... is this true? *i hope this is not.

if xp-90c sure fit one...

hmmm.... BUT overclock paradise selling at RM245. so expensive btw dont know can fit my future processor or not. (Core 2 Duo or Kentfield)

Offcourse can fit in C2D or Kentsfield, as those processors still uses LGA775 platform...


You just have to buy an Optional LGA775 Retention Module, then you're done...

oh i see... so basically is xp 90C that good to justify its price. (RM245) more expensive than Infinity and 9500

edited:
GA-8KNXP Not Compatible
GA-8KNXP (rev 2.0) Not Compatible
GA-8KNXP Ultra Not Compatible
GA-8KNXP Ultra(rev 2.0) Not Compatible

DAMM... xp 120 dont fit


This post has been edited by irangan: Dec 2 2006, 05:31 PM

what ur choice
fyi, there is someone selling used xp-90 in the garage sales, sure cheap than OP

hmmm..... got ppl selling meh.. i try to look for it.

i am looking for something is good and can be use in my future rig.

found it.. it is an alu type (XP90). sigh i thought is a XP90C

This post has been edited by irangan: Dec 3 2006, 12:59 AM

how about this guys? thermaltake silent tower.

from the pic below, looks like can fit my mobo

LINK

ehhh! what happen to the XP-90? why don't want alu, want copper onli ka?

i prefer copper ma... but if dont have, need to look for alternative lo. the price taht he selling is quite high.

well it is expensive though if brand new
btw, how much is ur budget maybe we all can recommend u something within that range

This post has been edited by E-J@1: Dec 3 2006, 10:54 AM

Budget ar... 200 lo... i need something that can fit my current mobo and future rig (Core2Duo)

Have u check on Ultra 120?

Did it fit?

ultra 120 dont support soc 478

What about Ultra 90?

ultra 120 & 90 do support 478
just that u need to buy the adapter

This post has been edited by E-J@1: Dec 3 2006, 09:34 PM

I've heard about this before, but i can't seem to find the adapter for socket 478 for those Thermalright Ultra Series...

ya la, where to get? also where to get ultra-90, hardly see anybody in this forum using it

It's not like it's hard to get Ultra 90, it's becuase people tend more to get that Ultra 120 more than the Ultra 90...

hmmmm.... good suggestion, guys.. thx...

i think i will order from http://www.sidewindercomputers.com or from those australia website.. just email sidewindercomputers

This post has been edited by irangan: Dec 4 2006, 01:37 AM

now everybody wants u to buy for them
better do a bulk then

hmmm.... seem that it is cheaper to buy through online than looking around like mad for ultra90 in malaysia..

i think i going to place the order for a Ultra 90 and 478 retention bracket. all that only cost me below 200 below postage and can reach in like 4 days. sometime i just love internet.

edited: guys, after a hint from sHawTY, i research on thermalright products and found that HR 01 fit my mobo too.. so the choice now is Ultra 90 ($22.95) or HR 01 ($31.95). both of it also need 478 retention bracket. planned to place order by tonight. hehe... thx in advance, guys

This post has been edited by irangan: Dec 4 2006, 11:58 AM

better make sure fan clips are included in the item for hr-01

sure... i just sent them an email about that.

guys, please give me some feedback. HR 01 or Ultra 90. cant find any review that compare both of it.

I think HR-01 should work a little bit better than the Ultra 90, it have more heatpipes...

Not quite sure about that, it's just my assumptions by the way...

thx for the info. HR 01 for me then

DAMM... Doom just pointed out one very important fact. HR 01 and Ultra 90 will place horizontal and not vertical like those socket 775. this means that it going to hit my DPS card. sigh....

Now that you've mention it, i've nearly forgot that u're using socket 478

Hmm, what are the other choices do you have in mind TS?

3D Rocket II from Gigabyte or Big Typhoon from TT.... getting confirmation from Gigabyte about my mobo.. if they can confirm that for me, i going to give them a good complain since mobo is a gigabyte.

i am getting piss off now... if really cant find any air cooling, i think WC is the way to go

WC?

What model?
Gigabyte oso kaa?

Those Gigabyte watercooling setup are quite nice, but if you have the money to go for gigabyte watercooling setup, might as well buy metalzone's budget watercooling setup, it's better than the gigabyte WC set, and i think it's cheaper by RM50 - RM100

Gigabyte Watercooling Set is RM550 right?
Correct me if i'm wrong...

This post has been edited by sHawTY: Dec 5 2006, 04:33 AM

yep, around RM550


if u going for WC, why don't u go for a new mobo + Thermalright HR-01/Ultra-90
same cost if u go for Giga WC la (RM500)... Thermalright = RM200 (RM300 left for mobo)

The problem is, it's hard to find a decent socket 478 motherboard...

TS is using one of the most unique and high end motherboard for socket 478...
It's unique, b'coz of it's 6 slot for DDR rams...

The only motherboard that can beat that motherboard performance would be either ASUS P4C800 E Deluxe or an ABIT IC7 MAX3...

But those two motherboard are really rare nowadays...

in other words, WC is the final solution unless irangan found a cooler that fits
all i can think of is the xp-90... any other heatsink (highend onli please)???

This post has been edited by E-J@1: Dec 5 2006, 01:59 PM

I don't think you can fit an XP90 on that motherboard with that DPS module there, it will either got some interference with the heatpipes or the fins itself no matter which way you fix the heatsink on that motheboard...

TS, can u calculate the height of the DPS module?
Wanna check the clearance section below the lowest fin of the Ultra 120...

I won't dare to say that Ultra 120 will surely fit there, but, there's a possibility that u can use Ultra 120 on that motheboard...

Now what u have to do is to measure the height of the DPS module...

ASUS P4C800 E Deluxe or an ABIT IC7 MAX3 << my friend is using that.. want to buy ? hehe... last time, my friends and me bought this few mobo to test which one is better. in the end, we found that Asus is the best in performance but the rest not much different

below is the dimension that i got using my ruler.. hehe..



my casing isnt those big casing.. the maximum height of a HSF it can support only around 15cm or 150mm.. 3D Rocket II, Ultra 120 and HR01 too tall for my casing

XP 90 looks like can fit but still worry.. it will block by my DPS card.

EDITED: i think my problem is solved. just got this from gigabyte.



seem that according to them, it is ok for me to remove the DPS card. i just removed the card and everything still running smoothly. can anyone provide me with more info about DPS? i cant understand the thing that i read in the net.

This post has been edited by irangan: Dec 5 2006, 02:48 PM

bro, what about the measurement of the gap between the proc socket & dsp card?
cause by this we can measure whether is there enough gap between the two for a heatsink to mount (so it won't interfere other parts)

So that does prove that P4C800 E Deluxe is better if compared to IC7 MAX3

I'm proud that i'm one of the previous user of that motherboard...

Err...
Darn it...

Ultra 120 is 165MM in height aka 16.5CM...
Can't fit in you're casing...

Now, what's the other choice do we have?
Big Thyphoon?

Hmm, i'm not quite sure about it, afraid if the heatpipe is going to be blocked by the card...

Okay, i've found a good heatsink that maybe doesn't have any interference with you're motherboard...

It's CM Hyper 48

Have u did some google on it?

less than 1 cm... but now i can take the card out after recieved a confirmation from gigabyte.. so no more blockage.. haha...

Asus and IC7 ar... both of my friends still argue about that till today. very inconclusive. IMO, Asus is better and my mobo is worst in performance if compare to both of that board. haha..

CM Hypre 48, i did some googling before this and found it cannot fit my mobo due to DPS. my casing only can support MAX 15CM, that is also left less than 1 cm from my side panel.

if you refer my previous, i posted a email from gigabyte. i think my problem is solve. i can take the DPS out without any worry hhaha

so now i am open to more option. hahaha...

This post has been edited by irangan: Dec 5 2006, 03:06 PM

Actually, what does that DPS thingie used for?
Won't something worse happen if u plug it out?

if u goin to get the ultra online, plase count me in

i am not quite sure about that... gigabyte fella said it is for more stability in voltage, something like built in AVR gua. i just plugged it out and nothing happen. Prime95 for 15 mins. no pro

ok... but i dont think so because it is too tall for my comp


any suggestion for GOOD heatsink but below in 150mm in height? thx guys

Well, if nothing happen, i think it's okay la if u take out that DPS thingie...

Heatsink height that is below 150MM?

Well, scythe ninja is exactly 150MM @ 15CM
Here's what i got from scyhte website:



Coolermaster Hyper 6+ height: 143MM @ 14.3CM



Thermaltake Big Thyphoon: 103MM @ 10.3CM


Arctic Cooling Freezer 4: 120MM @ 12CM

thx for all the info...

scythe ninja = cannot because after plus the height of the 120mm fan, it became 160mm in height..

Coolermaster Hyper 6+ = i read some review saying that the performance is very so so...

Thermaltake Big Thyphoon: = i think you told me that it have some clearance problem and IT IS VERY HARD TO INSTALL. need to take off the whole mobo. sounds too high tech for me.

Arctic Cooling Freezer 4 = i love that design. looking for review and where to purchase now.. EDITED: cannot fit 478

thx again...

This post has been edited by irangan: Dec 5 2006, 04:07 PM

i think i just found the best heatsink cooler for my mobo after removing the stupid DPS2.

Zalman CNPS9500 LED!!

85(L) X 112(W) X 125(H)mm .... not bad

Aiyoh, the Freezer 4 is built for Pentium 4 socket 478 liao...

Freezer 7 is for LGA775

you've misunderstand it...

oh i see... sry ya... didnt research carefully.

edited: only support 478, cant use it for my future 775

This post has been edited by irangan: Dec 5 2006, 05:33 PM

why don't u consider thermaltake big typhoon

big typhoon heat pipe will clash with my northbrigde cooler and it is hard to install

I don't really agree with those zalman cpu coolers...
They don't really are in the top notch...

But if you're into silence pc, then you're good with it...

Don't you have any other choices my friend?

i googling like mad now for other option.. my comp is too small for those highend heat sink. Infinity/Ninja/Ultra Series/HR Series at least 160mm with fan, 3D Rocket II even worse 175mm with fan, Big Typhoon heat pipe hit my northbridge cooler, Artic Freeze 4 only support 478 and not 775. now only left either xp 90, XP 90C, Coolermaster hyper 6 or those zalman.

sHawTY, tell me frankly how good is the CoolerMaster Hyper 6? review rate them poorly, need advise from sifu like you

probably due to my requirement, my option quite limited. i need to find something good, fit 478 / 775 and not too tall. seriously brain dead now.

This post has been edited by irangan: Dec 5 2006, 10:15 PM

No, don't go for CM hyper 6+ heatsinks, they don't perform well, used it before, and it lose a lot compared to my XP120 now...

Furthermore, if u're running it on full speed, it's damn freaking noisy at 46DBa

Hmm...
What other choices do we have...

If only we can get our hands on Noctua products...

The Noctua NH-U 12 is one of the best heatsink...
Noctua NH-U 9 is also good...
But sadly, it won't enter malaysian market, nor someone will do bulk on their heatsinks...

NH-U 12: http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=product...cts_id=1&lng=en


NH-U 9: http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=product...cts_id=2&lng=en


The NH-U 12 is a 155MM tall, which doesn't fit in you're casing...
While the NH-U 9 is 128MM tall, which fits perfectly on you're casing...

Damn, can't someone do bulk on Noctua heatsinks?

Some reviews:
http://www.frostytech.com/permalink.cfm?NewsID=50974
http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/noctua/index.htm
http://www.virtual-hideout.net/reviews/noc...U12/index.shtml
http://reviews.pcapex.com/cooling/noctua_n..._cpu_cooler.php
http://www.bigbruin.com/reviews05/review.p...m=noctua&file=1
http://www.a1-electronics.net/Heatsinks/20...H-U12_Jan.shtml

This post has been edited by sHawTY: Dec 5 2006, 10:30 PM

sounds so nice... dont come in malaysia. is ok.. i can purchase through online ma... let's do some research sin.. sigh... you sure do have alot of knowledge in air cooling. like a book only.

Hey, i don't know if this heatsink fits in you're motherboard or not, but, it's worth for some research...

Hey, why don't you go for G-Power Pro?
It's performance are far more greater than the Hyper 6+!!!

It's on the par with my XP120

Used it before, but sold off because i don't really like the design...

irangan, if u r ordering things from oversea, can help me order a s478 retention kit from thermalright??

just research online. Noctua NH-U9 dont support 478 only Noctua NH-U12 do. sigh.. btw, if u want to purchase Noctua items, you order from one australia site.
http://www.nintek.com.au
they do send to Malaysia.

G-Power Pro ar... are you refering to THIS?

inside niclasteoh bulk, he list it under GIGABYTE G-Power BL. BULK

how about this GIGABYTE 3D Rocket Cooler-Pro ?

ok lo.. i will let you know if i really do order.

This post has been edited by irangan: Dec 5 2006, 11:52 PM

Yes, that's the one...
In the older days gigabyte name it as G-Power Pro, don't know why they change it to G-Power BL

Forget that, what's the most important thing is, it fits on you're motherboard, and with some luck, you can use the DPS back on you're motherboard...

Who knows?

3D Rocket Cooler Pro?
I don't know about that heatsink, didn't see much good review about it...

thx, sHawTY for all the help.. i think my search is over. Gigabyte G-Power BL is the one for me.. cheap (135 in bulk), reasonable performance, can use for my 478 and future 775. what more i can ask for? hehe...

thx to all that help me along.

It's nice to see that the search is over...
I really hope that you can use that heatsink together with the DPS thingie again...

Let's just pray that it won't have any clearance issue...

Should be no pro... i measure everything jor.. but about DPS, i not sure lo. hehe.. though my search is over, i need to wait 2 weeks before i can buy the new CPU Cooler. this is because i just bought Pentium 4 Northwood 3.4 30 caps from one forummer. there goes my RM400+

Woh, 3.4Meh?
It's a pity that u're using that board, hey, does that motherboard do good in oc'ing?

If it's good, then you can go to 4.4GHz @ 1067MHz Bus Speed!!!

dont know about that lo... not too good in OC stuff.. i am asking for advises in 478 thread. hope them can help me..

Overclocking is easy liao...

But becareful, i've heard that those 30cappers northwood processors are just the same with prescott in temperatures, they are hotter compared to those normal northwood processors...

That's what i've heard la...

very true about that... just OC abit with my stock cooler.. reach 3.65 from 3.4, idle temp already rise 4'C. OC when i get my hand on the CPU Cooler.

So, what's you're decision now?

The new Scythe Heatsink [The name is too long ] or G-Power Pro?

i am going for the Scythe Andy Samurai Master. can get it by next week from singapore. price almost same with G-Power Pro. but i can use the fan of my choice. i heard G-Power very noisy..

G-Power Pro is noisy if you run the fan on the maximum speed, you can always choose the speed as you wish anytime u want

true about that.. but dont have the flexibility of changing to the fan of my choice. hehe..

Now that you've mentioned it, the fan is 100MM @ 10CM, the same size that is used on CM Hyper 6+.

It's very hard to find a replacement 100MM fan, in fact, i've never seen one...

oh i see... i never see a 100mm fan before. so unique... seem that, the fan size is also one of the factor to consider when going for heatsink

The unique is the thing that gives a headache to those users that uses a heatsink that equipped with a 100MM fan, think, if the fans dies, what to do?
Where to find a replacement for it?

seem that not a very good choice at all.. haha...

bro theres always jipties. u can jiptie a 90 mm or a 120mm to the hsf...