i would like to take medicine as my future courses but i still don't know how? can someone tell me how to apply 4 overseas and 4 da scholarship?thanx

If you see in the newspapers, there are a lot of adverts for unis like those in kursk and russia and stuff i think

are those were approved ?

i heard that russia is not an ideal place 2 study medic..from what i heard,the distance between the campus and lecture hall is like 1 hour by train so...u need to wake up early every morning !!!

right, i heard dat too. so i guess australia , nz or maybe uk is da best place.

how bout IMU? i think it's quite good.if i study medic,probably i'm going there,twinning with one of the medical college in US

wat's dat? sori i'm lack of knowledge bout dat uni/other colleges..

international medical college in bukit jalil..their reputation is not bad if u want to do twinning with universities from australian,canada and UK

how to apply? oh, do u know other useful websites dat related to medicine courses..btw wat courses u take aftr spm?

If you really want something, then you should be willing to do what it takes to get it, even if it means a one hour train ride to school. If you are not willing to sacrifice, then you have no one else to blame but yourself if you fail to get what you want.

It is shocking to see people expressing their interest in medicine and at the same time know absolutely nothing about anything.

It isn't a problem limited to just medicine, you're getting it even with those contemplating professional certificates and the like. Or even worse, people enrolled in courses they have no idea about.

well wat i know is only take da matrix and after dat if u got good result u can apply 4 da jpa/mara and went to uni in local or oversea. another way is after da spm result is out, there will be a lot of advertisment int the nwspaper offered scholarship and overseas studies.u need to go 4 interview to get it. wat i'm asking now is bout is there another way like taking a-level in private college first and apply 4 scholarship later on 4 further studies. which is dat i don't really familiar with cos i'm da type of person who need scholarship 2 study, without it no money no study lah...also correct me if i'm wrong with all da info i wrote. it's just dat i only know bout matrix and apply aftr da result is out...

Well, to be really well prepared for the workload for medicine, you should take either STPM or A-levels. I'm not saying that other programmes are no good but the amount of studying involved due to the syllabus would just better prepare you.

There are several private colleges in Malaysia offering medicine such as
1) Penang Medical College ( Twinning with Royal college of Surgeons Ireland and University of Dublin)
2)International Medical University ( Twins with many countries, they're got about 20 on their list including UK, US, NZ, Aussie etc. Full course can be done locally as well)
3)Melaka-Manipal Medical College ( Twinning with Manipal India)
4)AIMST ( Full course done locally)
5)Sedaya College (Full course done locally)
6) Monash campus in Malaysia ( Full course is done locally as well if i'm not mistaken)

And yes, you can take pre-u first before applying for scholarships to do medicine.


If you're taking STPM, you can also try for Monbushu( Not sure of spelling) scholarship. It's a scholarship given by the Ministry of Education Japan.


One last word of advice: Be doubly sure that you want to do medicine, it's no walk in the park if all you desire is monetary gains or the title Dr. In any case, if you do get an opportunity to 'tag' doctors in govt. hospitals like what the govt is doing for aspiring doctors gaining entry into local universities, tagging the specialist would only provide you with what life MAY be after 30-40 years of sweat and blood. You really want to know what the life is like for a doctor then tag the houseman's. Then you'll know what the initial years are like.

This post has been edited by Bodhi: Dec 2 2006, 09:30 AM

thanx, now i know a bit bout dat. oh yeah, i know dat doc's life is hard coz my mother's friends was a doc. she always stories to me about life going on ..
stressful...24 hours work...and other things... but all dat only made me more interested. btw if anyone had other information, do post it here. i do appriciated.
thanx...

If you want to get into medicine at a good a good university, try going for Trinity College foundation studies. If you get a 98% average, you are guaranteed a place in Melbourne U. Only catch is, there is no scholarship.

well there's no use coz i really need scholarship 2 further my studies...

Well, then try applying for JPA but be prepared to get sent to places such as Russia and Indonesia.

JPA scholarships are only for new SPM holders.

Also, scholarships for medicine are extremely rare. The only ones who provide full medical scholarships are JPA and MARA. Other than that, almost none if not none at all.

Be realistic. Reading medicine overseas is not easy........you get my drift.

This post has been edited by feynman: Dec 2 2006, 10:50 AM

She's taking SPM right now....

dat's wat i'm thinking but u know after da spm result is out, there would be a lot of students with straight A's including da mara, sbp students so as me from the ordinary school, it's like 1/100 000 of my chances to get da scholarship so, i will apply 4 dat but now i'm trying to find other way so dat i can back up if i fail to get da jpa/mara scholarship..

well, i'm taking spm right now, i know dat. a few of my friends from 2/3 years before manage to get da scholarship but like usual indonesia...russia... it's pretty rare 4 aus or something like dat...only sbp and mara students usully get dat.. tis is told by my friends so correct me if i'm wrong..

The fact stays, it is almost impossible to obtain any form of aid from any parties besides government bodies. Don't expect private firms to invest at least RM500k on you when they will not get any returns at all.

Petronas used to sponsor medical students, not anymore, because it is not a sound investment.

Loans, don't even bother thinking about it. You'll be in a severe financial debt when you graduate.

Yes, quite true.

Besides, eventhough you get the scholarship, you will have to spend a few years serving the government and you will only be free when you are almost 30. And some of the unis are not recognised by other countries.

Best is to pay your way through and get into a good uni, if you can afford it.

still jpa and mara is good option even though quite hard to get it...

Scholarships for medicine is very hard to get because relying on STPM results alone is no guarantee that a person would be able to complete the course in the expected time. Loans as mentioned is not advisable as it's going to take a very long time to pay back. This is the reason why countries like USA is experiencing a drop in enrollment by their own citizens. Most doctors who entered after taking loans were not able to pay back their loans or even earn close to the expenditure during the 4-5 years of medical training, in short, before they even start med school, they're already waist deep in debt.


As for working 24 hours...well it's an understatement. In the local context, supposing you start working today, from 7am and you're on call tonight, well your work day starts at 7am today untill you finish work tomorrow evening, which would be at least 5pm. Your daily schedule would depend largely on the expectations of the various heads, certain departments require that housemans make night rounds by themselves to finish off whatever work required. So a typical day, runs from 7am till 10-11pm every night. Mind you, I do mean EVERY night, INCLUSIVE of Saturdays and Sundays, there is no such thing as overtime claims because it's still part of your job and public holidays do not extend to you.

Well if that's not bad enough, you still have to smile while getting fired at by your superiors and senior nurses for any mistakes you make, and also smile and handle the demands of patients which may sometimes be unreasonable.

Several months back, an article was published in one of the local papers, that by year 2020, we would be producing MORE THAN ENOUGH doctors to meet the demands of our local government, which translates into - no more compulsory housemanship, the govt. may or may not hire you upon graduation.

One last thing about coming out around the age of 30 from govt service to venture into the private sector. You would only qualify as a General Physician, as in be able to start your own clinic, to specialise, you need further studying of at least 3-6 years depending on your interests. After you graduate, you are required to work for the govt. for another 6 months to 2 years for gazettement, so by the time you qualify as a specialist, you'd probably be around 35-40 years old?

And by the way, from what I heard, I'm pretty sure JPA and MARA aren't offering scholarships to UK [and perhaps even Aussie] anymore, I'm not sure if even SBP and MARA students can get that privilege.

Indonesia, Russia, Egypt seem to be the trend for JPA/MARA scholarships. The cost to send one student to study medicine in the UK can be used to fund about 5-6 students studying the same course in Indon/Egypt. So, yeah, they seem to have shifted to emphasize on quantity now, rather than quality.

That's the trouble with studying overseas now: Lack of scholarships to popular countries, and money in general.

medical scholarships even in aussie are hard to come by, uni of sydney, now ranked no2 in the whole of aussie, only give partial scholarships for students who get in. They select you straight out from your interview, so even if your filthy rich but you aced the interview you'd still get the scholarship.

in MAS, not to be racist or anything, but how often does a non bumi get scholarship? its so so rare, i hardly hear of any getting, maybe those who get like more than 11 A1's stand a better chance than the rest. But its selective, and i think they have to meet a ratio.

thread starter if your a bumi your chances is def better, if your indian or chinese, you have to be extremely smart+talented+very good interview and they have this bincangan session, where they wanna see who can stand out who is like the leader.

I suggest if you wanted to persue a scholarship earlier to apply for singapore, i think from there your chances to get into the best schools with scholarship is much better if you have the talent.

as for bodhi, yes med is tough im planning to take it up too, dont know what kinda of social life i'll have during house man years though, but i think its worth it all those hard work, to be bale to be a specialist, with a good pay, and a very satisfying job.

Since you mentioned Bumi's I might as well let you know also that selection into local postgraduation programmes also dependant , not to mention promotions as well.

Satisfying job well, there are frustrations and shortcomings everywhere which will just be part of your everyday life, afterall, businessman and healers thinking will never be the same.

Good pay, if you work in the private sector, definately got chance..work with govt...forget it lo,enough to pay bills, buy a new car one fine day and drive it for the rest of your life and food

Russia will not be recognized anymore..starting next year i think. So, dont try to study medicine there. My cousin was studying there, his batch was the last to be recognized by malaysia. He said that, there are plenty of students "bought" the cert and not get it by results. Consider twice. Haha
If you are considering IMU, i can it is quite a good place. There are 2 intakes in one year. 1 intake is around 250 people. I saw them sitting on the stairs and floors in the lecture hall. What i can say is, doctors are flooding already. This career is a tough 1 also,no matter during degree or working. You need to study until half dead to get good results. After graduate, you need to work 24 hours on time. For a gal who wanna choose medic, i would say it is a bad choice. You will have no time to accompany your family especially after you got child. LoL..pharmacy will be a better choice.
There is scholarship such as PTPTN. After you were accepted into the course, you can apply through the University. If you are going oversea, there will be JPA loan of around 200,000 for you to borrow. You need to pay of course, or you choose to work with the goverment for 10 years after graduate.
I am currently studying pharmacy in IMU..haha. Don't say i am siding my choose,just telling the truth.

IIRC, PTPTN is not a scholarship but a loan.

oops..
sorry..wrong 1..
but IMU got own scholarship..

A Medicine Jpa scholar here. Just try to research as much as you can. =)

my advice---> go study hard hard...then score a straight A's...then apply JPA...if not, go apply for private medical college for scholarship..(also need superb result)...
else, continue for STPM/ matrix..,score good result..apply for local Uni.

this is the solution for people who cannot afford for private medical Uni/ overseas...Like me~~hehehe

Lay off the kid... At least she's trying to get some info here...

But I agree with you a lot of people don't really know much about medicine before venturing into it, and later regret their choice.

IMU... Just finished my first phase in July... now awaiting to go overseas next year

Basically, I have to say that IMU is not one of the best equipped medical unis out there. But credit to the management for expanding its facilities and infrastructure as well as their personnel throughout recent times. I am sure if you join in the near future, you will experience better stuff than I did.

Twinning in the US is not as easy as going to other partner medical schools. You should know about the USMLE examinations if you are planning to go to US. By the way, IMU only offers twinning programmes with Thomas Jefferson Medical College. That was the only option if you choose to go to the States, unless they have included new partners after my completion of my first phase.

If you have read through the Medicine Education thread that was pinned up before, you would have known that medicine is NOT easy. In fact it is hell, well, almost. Syllabus is hell, students are competitive as hell, schedules are hell too... But learn to love it and you will survive. I am actually missing my IMU days, despite complaining and whining about it a lot before

Cash is another MAIN factor that you need to consider. Do some research, collect some info on the fees of various unis, they vary quite a lot. Discuss with your parents whether they can afford it or not. Even the fees of partner medical schools of IMU vary quite a lot. You wouldn't want to go broke halfway through your medical career. If your parents are ok with the money, then by all means go ahead to whatever uni of your choice.

Scholarships, unfortunately, are very rare. For medicine that is. JPA is obviously the best choice, but of course there arises the issue of the contracts and bonds. But that shouldn't even be a conflict. The government spends so freaking lot on medical students and they should in fact be FORCED to come back and serve the country. JPA provides hell lots for medical students. My JPA friends overseas are basically living lives of kings and queens over there (compared to self-funded students that is).

Loans... well, they are a good alternative if you are short of cash. But you'll have to slog off to repay them, unless your parents pay them for you.

Think carefully before you choose medicine. You have virtually no way out after you join the course, unless you are prepared to let the cash all go down the drain. Bear in mind one thing... You will probably never recoup the cash you spend on your medical curriculum, at least in the near future.

Good luck

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This post has been edited by dandan2: Dec 7 2006, 12:08 AM

it's not the financial problem...
i'm really worried that i'm not able to cope with the syllabus.
and the competition among the students may drive me crazy...

i don't know...mayb i should just let go of this idea..
it's too tough for me..i don't think i cAN handle it >.<

StarGhazzer,it's very nice to meet you here .Congratulations for successfully
completing IMU Phase 1 course .Actually,I
have just finished my STPM exams,and IMU twinning-Jefferson MC is my major
consideration now,partly b'cos of the high quality of US Medical education,
reduced cost and durations.
I would like to ask you the following Q's:

1)What're the chances of an IMU students twinned with Jefferson being able to
continue for specialist training and to secure a job in US?

2)Will it be easier for a Canadian PMS Graduates to apply for US internship
compared to graduates from other countries?

3)What's the percentage of failure in IMU USMLE 1 ?

Thanks for your future reply. Hope you'll be matched with the PMS
of your choice.

Dream on..........

Info? Much of these stuff can be found on the net with a click of the button, one doesn't even need to ask. If someone does not have the initiative to do so, one should not even bother doing medicine no matter how interested one is.

Since when is medicine in the US cheap?

Scholarships for professional degrees are rare if any at all.

If you get into a Canadian PMS, you are likely to find a job in canada because you have the canadian experience.

1. IMU students... well the competition is quite tough for those who are aiming to enter Jefferson. Usually, each batch is allocated around 3, 4 places for Jefferson, but my batch has actually 6-8 of them going for the USMLE... If I'm not mistaken, if you fail to achieve the requirements for USMLE, you will be matched to other remaining places at other overseas unis. And the matching process would be done together with your junior batches.

2. Erm... there used to be rumours saying that Canadian Grads are able to work and study in the US, but I can't be sure. Maybe you want to check with the corresponding Canadian universities to see whether it is possible or not. Well, can't help you much on North American issues coz I am not going there

3. No one knows for sure because the results are not officially announced AFAIK. But I suppose those who are in IMU and aiming to take the test would have gotten some news and rumours, probably tips as well.

If you are aiming for Jefferson because of the high standards there, by all means go ahead. But if you are aiming for REDUCED COST, seriously you will have the shock of your life. Medicine is never going to be cheap, and again, you will probably never earn back the cash you spent on your education. Fees for overseas unis will NEVER be cheap due to our weak ringgit and perpetual inflation of overseas university tuition fees. Doing a local first phase may not save you that much, but at least it saves up to 30-40% costs, maybe (and probably) even more than that.

As for duration, US is not that fast. The fastest way from IMU is to choose Dundee. Dundee only takes you 2 years, while most other overseas unis require 2.5 to 3 years (mostly 3 years). Assume that you join the first intake eg Feb/Mar 2007... you will finish ur 1st phase around 2009 July, and straight away fly to Dundee for 2 years. By 2011 you'd be graduated, without "accidents" that is. 4.5 years for a medical degree, that's kinda like UKM.

All I can say is that if you really want to go to US, focus on your ambitions and work hard to realise it. I slogged during my uni days and got my first choice uni, and I am very pleased of it. (well I am not pleased about the stupid inflation of fees ) Work hard, work smart, and you will be rewarded for your efforts. Just remember, there are no shortcuts in medicine.

Sounding harsh eh? Info about unis and courses can be found with google and mouseclicks, but personal experiences could only be found via talking to current students of graduates. I don't see any problem with fellow forum members asking for certain information, but as you put it, it's better to do some research before asking.

Scholarships for medicine are indeed rare, but scholarships for engineering courses are much more easier to find compared to medicine.

This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Dec 7 2006, 11:24 AM

That's the case here, one is not asking for experiences or what are the pitfalls to be aware of, but one is asking how to do medicine? What to do? How to apply for scholarships and to foreign universities. It is basically asking people to tell one what exactly one must do to be a doctor, right down to what course to take, how to fill in the form, how to apply for scholarships and etc.

This is certainly not doctor material.

thanx 4 all da coments,tips ,advices and others. actually,i want to know about doctor, almost everything about it, well i'm not so good at finding information on net. well, first i want to know bout all dat uni/scholar..how to apply and so on..and now i know a little bit..about da career , life going on, thanx for those replying for my question. i'm just 16 years old girl who trying to get as much info bout these career, students life,cost for studying , future and many more...well, if we didn't know the basic to start our courses it will be useless for me to choose this right? i just don't want to regret it later,so if anyone may want to share their experience, difficulty they faced do write here. coz, i'm not filling any form or wat so ever so i didn't hv to asked such question.yes, i'm still searching for info,so i need advice and maybe tips to encouraging me more coz doctor's nowdays are difficult, i know. so i don't really need something that can make me give up for these courses. but i do welcome those who wants to tell me the pro and contra of being a doctor..also thanx for those hv given me those useful information, i appriciate it.

i beg to differ. jpa scholars are not living like kings and queens in overseas. we are only given limited allowances monthly to pay for our accomodation and meals. nevertheless, we are luckier in a sense we need to fork out less money to settle for other bills. if you can refresh your memory on a letter written by a scholar in canada to the star, you will know that we still need to spend some money to make both ends meet.


@shinta
i suggest you to check out this website, where most of the scholars in malaysia share their views, namely jpa, petronas, bank negara scholars etc.

www.recom.org

the education and everything about medicine sections will be quiet useful.

one of my fren went to dublin ireland to study medicine at the royal college of surgeon (RCSI if im not mistaken) under the scholarship of MARA (More like a loan to me)

After 7 years of studying and because he dont wanna come home to work (work in ireland, better opportunities of making HUGE munney) MARA ask em to pay up the sum.

Guess how much it is? RM1 mil!!! WOH!!! only 28 and already hutang 1 mil to MARA...

But hes currently applying for discount from MARA.Dunno successful or not

^ Loan ada discount pulak

pangping1510: I know JPA students do have to make ends meet too. But you cannot deny the fact that the allowance JPA gives is more than enough for a typical medical student. Tuition fees are already covered in full, add allowances for pocket money and books.... WOW !! Of course, there are still certain things and costs that are to be funded by your own, but it's always good to have someone paying for you instead.

Judging from the amount of money spent on JPA scholars, it is not unreasonable for the government to literally "force" JPA scholars to serve the country once they graduate. After all, the gov is the one who has been nurturing them. No offence, but I have seen many cases among my seniors and friends who were JPA scholars and decide not to come back. So where has the money gone? OVERSEAS... and not for the nation's benefits. If it is possible for the gov to bring back say 90-100% of the JPA overseas scholars and make them fulfil their contracts and bonds, we'd have much more medical personnel in gov hospitals and health centres.

As for self-funded students, sad to say, it is their choice whether to return or not. Of course it would be best if they choose to return, but one must always think about their future and job prospectives. If reasonable (read: lucrative and having good working environment etc) opportunities arise, I'm sure most students would want to return to their home and serve their community.

Apologies if this sounds harsh, but it's just the situation we're facing now.

Which country offers cheap n good medic/pharmacy course????

Sigh... we used to debate this: JPA scholars do not deserve it. Because in my batch of 180 medic students, we have 36 medic students and out of those about half comes from super rich families with parents who are lawyers, doctors, engineers and so forth. But wat can we non-scholars do? Missed out because of an A2 in Moral/Sejarah.. then JPA takde dee. And MARA only for bumiputras...

Medicine... I am already in 3rd year. I don't study, I don't attend lectures... I still donno how I passed *grin*. And now in 3rd year, I realise I don't make a good doctor because I lack empathy. I almost got rejected because my interviewer said I lack communication skills... *shrug* There is more to just studying when you take medicine. It is more important to know the patients than to know the disease. Get my drift?

If given a choice, I would have told you to take something else. Take medicine only if you are prepared to be a slave to humanity for the rest of your life.

Oh... and you have plenty of IMU students here helping you out, so no prob. And if you didn't get the JPA scholarship and still want to take the twinning program in IMU, check out the JPA loan which is interest-free, bond-free and can get a discount to 75%.

@huqin: Russia, Indonesia, Thailand. Cuba just opened a new free medical school. Assumption Uni in Thai is not bad, not sure recognised by MMA, but pharmacy should be no problem. IMU has a pharmacy program, not sure if it is good or not tho.

This post has been edited by Lucifer_Light: Dec 8 2006, 12:23 AM

@StarGhazzar

take for example, which is Australia. with the allowance given monthly, we still cant pay full for accomodation and meals. yes, we need to fork out our own money. i agree that as jpa pays for our tuition fees, forking out some money to make ends meet is acceptable. it is just unfair to say that we live luxuriously. and jpa does not increase allowances easily.

But at least your parents don't have to work their ass off to put you where you are now. That is wat my parents are doing. You guys may not live luxuriously, but most of my JPA frens are. Because the parents don't have to pay for their school fees, they shower the kids with stuff.

I understand there are ppl who really deserve JPA, but there are also some ppl who don't.

Or maybe I am just bitter. Sob sob.

If what JPA pays is not sufficient for accomodation, food and all. This is not a scholarship at all. Makan pun tak cukup, belajar untuk apa?

haha...chinese proberb says: sai weng shi ma, yan zhi fei fu.

not getting jpa scholarship might not be a con at all as you might get something even sweeter in the future. dont ask for things, no one owes you anything. both hardwork and luck play big parts in getting what we want in life. =)

It is a blardy scholarship, if it can't blardy pay to ensure you have enough to use, why the heck do you call it a scholarship?

@pangping 1510,
thanx ,i'm checking this website and i hv gained a lot of information there, thanx.

@gaijin_otoko
omg, is it true? RM 1 mil? wat a scholarship is dat?

@huqinlehe
indonesia i guess..

oh, i heard that both jpa and mara scholarship hv covered all the fee including food, studies and more..so why did some of u said it's not enough? or i missunderstand somewhere?

This post has been edited by shinta: Dec 8 2006, 02:39 PM

to live luxuriously, mebbe not but to be able to 'LIVE' then mebbe it is. if not then one has to consider doin part time to cope with daily needs. JPA memang kupik sikit hahahaha

all work and no play makes me a dull boy...wonder when i'm gonna get kaya this way

haha...but medicine scholars' parents do save alot in terms of tuition fee already, so forking out some money to make ends meet is still very good. =)

@shinta
yeah, recom is where most scholars go =)

to threadstarter, there would be a full medical course offered by monash malaysia and its recognised by malaysia, no conversion needed, this is cos the new building would be up and ready by next year, its really nice, u should try apply, maybe can get scholarship.

If you are applying for JPA, medic is the best choice. Suck the gov money kering kering. And JPA is enough for you to live as what gaijin had said. If you want a scholarship that can ensure that you live like kings and stay in places like Waldorf, there is a scholarship call FAMA (Father and Mather).

depends on where you stay in Australia and how you spend. JPA's allocated funds are 100% sufficient for your needs. Tuition fees are covered, allowance given for food and accommodation and books as well, what more can you ask for if you are a student? According to my JPA friends in Ireland, the amount of money given to them is more than enough, they even have spare change to visit pubs every now and then.

Ok, JPA scholars might not live THAT luxuriously, but their basic necessities are well covered. Maybe I was harsh in the previous post about "living lives of kings and queens", but comparatively to normal (read: not freaking rich, just affordable) families, JPA scholars are very fortunate and living a good life overseas.

My point is, JPA scholars should and MUST come back to serve the country, especially when the country is in dire need of medical personnel. I have nothing against JPA scholars, it's just that a small minority of them which choose not to come back is indeed overboard. That's why I'm supporting any cause to "make" scholars come back.

anyway... browsed through ur blog, get well soon from the tonsilitis... i know how bad it is to get that... my housemate suffered in agony for a whole damn week... and the cash my friend spent on antitbiotics... RM 60 for 5 doses of clarithromycin... ZOMFG!!

Lucifer_Light: FAMA scholarship...

This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Dec 9 2006, 12:04 AM

haha...thanks...recovered...i spent rm55 =(

living cost raises la dear...jpa reluctant to raise allowance, frankly speaking, it is not even enough to cover accomodation and catering...

i am ok with the bonding agreement...i want to be a doctor to serve people...so working in government hospital is my job =)

Tsk tsk tsk... antibiotics are so damn expensive... to think that a generic amoxycilin costs only a few cents... yet branded stuff are

The increase in living costs are definitely going to cost us dearly... Whenever I think about the money I need to spend once I go over there, I feel so downcast... Gonna eat grass everyday adi

But seriously, I wonder why JPA's allocated funds are so unstandardised. You mentioned that you have trouble with accommodation and food, yet my friends in Europe are having a comfortable life... Man....

JPA gotta really think about this.... Maybe you could make noise to them so that they understand your circumstances...

@starghazzar

my seniors already refer this matter to jpa, but they refuse to increase the allowance. so just live with what is given lor. =)

this school of medicine is also known as the expensive school of medicine in the world la bro...and that million i think is the total cost fees for a student...

currently i'm study in russia... about half was finish... still another 3 yrs to complete...ya... about the travel is true... depend on which uni u from... i'm not in moscow in another city... is a bit trouble for the travel... u won't know what haapen before u face it... imagine a mini bus with 50 plus ppl inside... is the worst nightmare... and now i in the 3rd yrs... no need to travel much. because they have a lot of diff building... that teach diff subject... so, is depend on what subject u on at the moment... from 1st and 2nd yr u really need to travel much... from 1 place to another place to catch the lec and class... i really don't like it...

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Added on March 25, 2007, 1:07 am1 mil is worth la... just think how much he get... my fren study in russia got loan from MARA also need to pay back 700k afther he grad...( he told me ). if he can get 1st class (red diplom) at here than only pay back 10 %...Shock...only 70k...

his allowance is rm 2k / month...
that is for russia...before that my sis got jpa scholar... allowance is euro500/month...in ireland...

This post has been edited by iori: Mar 25 2007, 01:07 AM