That's the case here, one is not asking for experiences or what are the pitfalls to be aware of, but one is asking how to do medicine? What to do? How to apply for scholarships and to foreign universities. It is basically asking people to tell one what exactly one must do to be a doctor, right down to what course to take, how to fill in the form, how to apply for scholarships and etc.

This is certainly not doctor material.

thanx 4 all da coments,tips ,advices and others. actually,i want to know about doctor, almost everything about it, well i'm not so good at finding information on net. well, first i want to know bout all dat uni/scholar..how to apply and so on..and now i know a little bit..about da career , life going on, thanx for those replying for my question. i'm just 16 years old girl who trying to get as much info bout these career, students life,cost for studying , future and many more...well, if we didn't know the basic to start our courses it will be useless for me to choose this right? i just don't want to regret it later,so if anyone may want to share their experience, difficulty they faced do write here. coz, i'm not filling any form or wat so ever so i didn't hv to asked such question.yes, i'm still searching for info,so i need advice and maybe tips to encouraging me more coz doctor's nowdays are difficult, i know. so i don't really need something that can make me give up for these courses. but i do welcome those who wants to tell me the pro and contra of being a doctor..also thanx for those hv given me those useful information, i appriciate it.

i beg to differ. jpa scholars are not living like kings and queens in overseas. we are only given limited allowances monthly to pay for our accomodation and meals. nevertheless, we are luckier in a sense we need to fork out less money to settle for other bills. if you can refresh your memory on a letter written by a scholar in canada to the star, you will know that we still need to spend some money to make both ends meet.


@shinta
i suggest you to check out this website, where most of the scholars in malaysia share their views, namely jpa, petronas, bank negara scholars etc.

www.recom.org

the education and everything about medicine sections will be quiet useful.

one of my fren went to dublin ireland to study medicine at the royal college of surgeon (RCSI if im not mistaken) under the scholarship of MARA (More like a loan to me)

After 7 years of studying and because he dont wanna come home to work (work in ireland, better opportunities of making HUGE munney) MARA ask em to pay up the sum.

Guess how much it is? RM1 mil!!! WOH!!! only 28 and already hutang 1 mil to MARA...

But hes currently applying for discount from MARA.Dunno successful or not

^ Loan ada discount pulak

pangping1510: I know JPA students do have to make ends meet too. But you cannot deny the fact that the allowance JPA gives is more than enough for a typical medical student. Tuition fees are already covered in full, add allowances for pocket money and books.... WOW !! Of course, there are still certain things and costs that are to be funded by your own, but it's always good to have someone paying for you instead.

Judging from the amount of money spent on JPA scholars, it is not unreasonable for the government to literally "force" JPA scholars to serve the country once they graduate. After all, the gov is the one who has been nurturing them. No offence, but I have seen many cases among my seniors and friends who were JPA scholars and decide not to come back. So where has the money gone? OVERSEAS... and not for the nation's benefits. If it is possible for the gov to bring back say 90-100% of the JPA overseas scholars and make them fulfil their contracts and bonds, we'd have much more medical personnel in gov hospitals and health centres.

As for self-funded students, sad to say, it is their choice whether to return or not. Of course it would be best if they choose to return, but one must always think about their future and job prospectives. If reasonable (read: lucrative and having good working environment etc) opportunities arise, I'm sure most students would want to return to their home and serve their community.

Apologies if this sounds harsh, but it's just the situation we're facing now.

Which country offers cheap n good medic/pharmacy course????

Sigh... we used to debate this: JPA scholars do not deserve it. Because in my batch of 180 medic students, we have 36 medic students and out of those about half comes from super rich families with parents who are lawyers, doctors, engineers and so forth. But wat can we non-scholars do? Missed out because of an A2 in Moral/Sejarah.. then JPA takde dee. And MARA only for bumiputras...

Medicine... I am already in 3rd year. I don't study, I don't attend lectures... I still donno how I passed *grin*. And now in 3rd year, I realise I don't make a good doctor because I lack empathy. I almost got rejected because my interviewer said I lack communication skills... *shrug* There is more to just studying when you take medicine. It is more important to know the patients than to know the disease. Get my drift?

If given a choice, I would have told you to take something else. Take medicine only if you are prepared to be a slave to humanity for the rest of your life.

Oh... and you have plenty of IMU students here helping you out, so no prob. And if you didn't get the JPA scholarship and still want to take the twinning program in IMU, check out the JPA loan which is interest-free, bond-free and can get a discount to 75%.

@huqin: Russia, Indonesia, Thailand. Cuba just opened a new free medical school. Assumption Uni in Thai is not bad, not sure recognised by MMA, but pharmacy should be no problem. IMU has a pharmacy program, not sure if it is good or not tho.

This post has been edited by Lucifer_Light: Dec 8 2006, 12:23 AM

@StarGhazzar

take for example, which is Australia. with the allowance given monthly, we still cant pay full for accomodation and meals. yes, we need to fork out our own money. i agree that as jpa pays for our tuition fees, forking out some money to make ends meet is acceptable. it is just unfair to say that we live luxuriously. and jpa does not increase allowances easily.

But at least your parents don't have to work their ass off to put you where you are now. That is wat my parents are doing. You guys may not live luxuriously, but most of my JPA frens are. Because the parents don't have to pay for their school fees, they shower the kids with stuff.

I understand there are ppl who really deserve JPA, but there are also some ppl who don't.

Or maybe I am just bitter. Sob sob.

If what JPA pays is not sufficient for accomodation, food and all. This is not a scholarship at all. Makan pun tak cukup, belajar untuk apa?

haha...chinese proberb says: sai weng shi ma, yan zhi fei fu.

not getting jpa scholarship might not be a con at all as you might get something even sweeter in the future. dont ask for things, no one owes you anything. both hardwork and luck play big parts in getting what we want in life. =)

It is a blardy scholarship, if it can't blardy pay to ensure you have enough to use, why the heck do you call it a scholarship?

@pangping 1510,
thanx ,i'm checking this website and i hv gained a lot of information there, thanx.

@gaijin_otoko
omg, is it true? RM 1 mil? wat a scholarship is dat?

@huqinlehe
indonesia i guess..

oh, i heard that both jpa and mara scholarship hv covered all the fee including food, studies and more..so why did some of u said it's not enough? or i missunderstand somewhere?

This post has been edited by shinta: Dec 8 2006, 02:39 PM

to live luxuriously, mebbe not but to be able to 'LIVE' then mebbe it is. if not then one has to consider doin part time to cope with daily needs. JPA memang kupik sikit hahahaha

all work and no play makes me a dull boy...wonder when i'm gonna get kaya this way

haha...but medicine scholars' parents do save alot in terms of tuition fee already, so forking out some money to make ends meet is still very good. =)

@shinta
yeah, recom is where most scholars go =)

to threadstarter, there would be a full medical course offered by monash malaysia and its recognised by malaysia, no conversion needed, this is cos the new building would be up and ready by next year, its really nice, u should try apply, maybe can get scholarship.

If you are applying for JPA, medic is the best choice. Suck the gov money kering kering. And JPA is enough for you to live as what gaijin had said. If you want a scholarship that can ensure that you live like kings and stay in places like Waldorf, there is a scholarship call FAMA (Father and Mather).

depends on where you stay in Australia and how you spend. JPA's allocated funds are 100% sufficient for your needs. Tuition fees are covered, allowance given for food and accommodation and books as well, what more can you ask for if you are a student? According to my JPA friends in Ireland, the amount of money given to them is more than enough, they even have spare change to visit pubs every now and then.

Ok, JPA scholars might not live THAT luxuriously, but their basic necessities are well covered. Maybe I was harsh in the previous post about "living lives of kings and queens", but comparatively to normal (read: not freaking rich, just affordable) families, JPA scholars are very fortunate and living a good life overseas.

My point is, JPA scholars should and MUST come back to serve the country, especially when the country is in dire need of medical personnel. I have nothing against JPA scholars, it's just that a small minority of them which choose not to come back is indeed overboard. That's why I'm supporting any cause to "make" scholars come back.

anyway... browsed through ur blog, get well soon from the tonsilitis... i know how bad it is to get that... my housemate suffered in agony for a whole damn week... and the cash my friend spent on antitbiotics... RM 60 for 5 doses of clarithromycin... ZOMFG!!

Lucifer_Light: FAMA scholarship...

This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Dec 9 2006, 12:04 AM

haha...thanks...recovered...i spent rm55 =(

living cost raises la dear...jpa reluctant to raise allowance, frankly speaking, it is not even enough to cover accomodation and catering...

i am ok with the bonding agreement...i want to be a doctor to serve people...so working in government hospital is my job =)

Tsk tsk tsk... antibiotics are so damn expensive... to think that a generic amoxycilin costs only a few cents... yet branded stuff are

The increase in living costs are definitely going to cost us dearly... Whenever I think about the money I need to spend once I go over there, I feel so downcast... Gonna eat grass everyday adi

But seriously, I wonder why JPA's allocated funds are so unstandardised. You mentioned that you have trouble with accommodation and food, yet my friends in Europe are having a comfortable life... Man....

JPA gotta really think about this.... Maybe you could make noise to them so that they understand your circumstances...