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 Choosing The Right PSU, Discussions about power supply units.

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Quazacolt
post Jun 13 2007, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(remysix @ Jun 13 2007, 07:56 AM)
wanna ask if anyone knows where can i find a shop/person who can fix my Silverstone ST65ZF...kinda 'died'...when i plugged it in to my board (using DFI Dark) the 'Stanby LED' lit means the there is power output from the psu but cannot power the rig up...pushed the on switch but nothing happened...i already got TT Toughpower 750w but it wont work on my DFI Dark (picky picky Dark force vmad.gif ) and sayang la this Zeus to just throw it away, need to respect this Zeus tongue.gif ...so, if anyone has any idea, pls let me know. notworthy.gif
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specify why your tt tough powert 750 wouldnt work, because i have one and afaik, psu dont have any compatibility issues so long the motherboard follows its standard ATX specifications, in which the one you have should be.
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post Jun 13 2007, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(remysix @ Jun 13 2007, 09:37 AM)
u r using Commando, rite...
for all this years, i also never heard incompatibility between psu and mobo except if the mobo or psu does not follow the same standard specification or required by the mobo in terms of the voltage and amperage...
but this DFI P965-S Dark...it's very picky on psu and ram chip...i've read a few forum reporting on the same issue...and i've also asked those guys who used the same mobo in DFI P965-S Dark thread in our forum...most of them said, it's the psu or the ram but mostly straight away said the psu...already tested with diff ram, same thing...power up, and the power recycling keeps on going...and i've just installed the board...so no oc is done yet...actually nothing is done yet...so, the only thing i can be certained is that the mobo doesnt like the TT, well at least MY TT...
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could prolly switch a different mobo imho, if such mobo is giving so much problems and compatibility issue. even if it can oc or w/e superbly, i dont think its worth the hassle.

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and yes im using the Asus commando, very damn convenient for oc noobs like me tongue.gif

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post Jun 19 2007, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(InF.anime @ Jun 19 2007, 12:18 PM)
ThermalTake 2000W is not in the market yet?? Im looking for it now..
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just curious, why the wattage? lol
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post Jul 25 2007, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(ZomgWtfHax @ Jul 25 2007, 12:13 PM)
splurge as much money as you can afford on your psus, it will last through multiple upgrades, and also lasts you a few years. So splurge as much as you can afford! Why would you buy a psu that is just right for your system, and during the next upgrade, you suddenly feel, shit my psu is not enough, then u'll have to upgrade your psu along.
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might want to take that statement back as psu's can go as expensive as rm2k+ per psu. (lol watercooled PSU's)
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post Jul 26 2007, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(ZomgWtfHax @ Jul 25 2007, 07:20 PM)
So splurge as much as you can afford, means, if it's a ridiculous price like 2k obviously don't get it. What I am talking about is like if it's like is if you can pay 20 - 30% more why not? Psus are usually overlooked by most people. But they are really important, in my opinion. I used to have this cheap psu that comes with the case, after 1 year, one of the wires for some reason melted, and then it somehow touch the motherboard, and my whole pc would not start and at that time, it was my final semester, and I was in a rush to hand in some projects, but luckily, i backup my files in gmail, or i'd be stressed to death. So conclusion: Don't skimp, a dead power supply can be deadly!
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i dont deny that one should invest in their PSUs and PSUs are important to your system, but the fact that MANY in LYN if i may dare say even you tend to over exaggerate the importance of a PSU way too much.

hell im actually fine with cap ayams but replacing it got too tedious and i settled for a ST400 just recently, just so i dont have to go through the whole cabling crap again.

point was, yes psus are important, but lets not forget what are their main purpose, which is to supply power (lol duh) to your PC, and rm 45 cap ayams can do that just the same as those rm2k psus, only difference is quality, effeciency, and stability of the power delivered and so on.
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post Jul 26 2007, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(sang_karim @ Jul 26 2007, 09:16 AM)
anyone using silverstone ST400? just wanna know wether the 4 pin connector is enough for u guys ... read some review that this ST400 is lack of 4 pin connector ... what's ur opinion?
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unless ur gonna put a ton of HDD/CD or DVD drivers or burners or fans etc etc, its more than enough for the average users. if you want to know for sure, count how many 4 pin power connectors you need, and look up the ST400 specs how many 4 pin connectors they offer.
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post Jul 30 2007, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(X.E.D @ Jul 28 2007, 06:15 AM)
Elipsons are way over my budget. =(
The aim is just to get my initial budget on parents cheaper while making it still usable, while I get another PSU myself.

Any comments on the Thermaltake solution? 250W @RM185 + A cheaper PSU (FSP Saga?) at 350/400W that I can get myself later.
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dont buy any thermaltake PSU other than the toughpower series. they are pretty poor in quality and only offer unnessesary blings.

i havent check up the new pure power series (low wattage/budget psu's) but it does seems promising.
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post Aug 2 2007, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Aug 1 2007, 06:55 PM)
ur kidding right? 0db would be pure fanless PSU already.... and most fanless PSUs arent cheap. zalman if im not mistaken has one.
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silverstone has one...


imho, fanless psu doesnt seem reliable to me...for a component that regulates electricity for your computer, heat will surely be there, to have it on passive cooling just doesnt seem solid at all as temperature rises, your psu performance will be affected
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post Oct 5 2007, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(alpha_numeric182 @ Oct 5 2007, 01:09 PM)
silverstone is very good but the price is out of my range..maybe u guys could suggest something around 400-500?
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thermal take toughpower series smile.gif

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but afaik it doesnt have 8pin pci-e connectors too, but even on a geforce 8800 ultra, i dont use them anyways sleep.gif;
maybe the newer releases of their TP series include 8pin pci-e cables

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post Dec 4 2007, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(campsol2k @ Dec 4 2007, 04:14 PM)
is it ok to use modular and multiple rail PSU?
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yes its perfectly fine.
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post Dec 5 2007, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Dec 4 2007, 05:25 PM)
detail pls...
want to know more bout dis modular kind of thing.. drool.gif
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the difference between modular and non-modular is that you can unplug un-used power cables on modular psu where as the non-modular psu all cables are permanent. There are claims that non-modular psu are better than modulars because modular psu have additional plugs for you to unplug/plug-in the power cables thus creating additional resistance while the non-modular version is a direct link without any resistance.

To an avg user, this is almost non-existant and for the most part insignificant to even bother about. thus its perfectly fine to go for a modular psu.

in regards to single rail or multiple rail PSU, read the post made by lohwenli on the overclocker section:
Post 809 From the Overclockers United boards: Best PSU for overclocker V2

to summarize that, single rail is better, but there are advantages in multi rails over single rail, sadly most manufacturers cheat and in the end the advantages of multi rail setup is non-existant. but again, for an average user, this is for the most part insignificant and using multi rail psu is also, perfectly fine, especially from manufacturers that do not cheat in their multirail psu such as the higher end Silverstone Zeus PSU, which are quad/multi rail setup.


References:
thanks to Lohwenli for multirail explanations
also http://www.pcpower.com/technology/myths/
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post Dec 6 2007, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(Exhilaration @ Dec 5 2007, 08:38 PM)
mine is only 20 pin
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you said 24 pin in ur post. and even if its 20 pin, just break off the 4 pins.

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