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post Mar 12 2007, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(eastherd @ Mar 12 2007, 03:06 PM)
what's ur comment on Cooler Master Extreme Power 550watt??
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well, you can go for it, as long you won't do something funny aka overclocking tongue.gif, as for my preference, i avoid CM, Acbel, iCUTE, PowerLogic...smile.gif
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QUOTE(afosz @ Mar 13 2007, 11:15 AM)
want to ask something ..
+12V1 is 18A and +12V2 is 16A, is it reliable or I have get both with at least 18A?
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+12V1 @18A and 16A on +12V2 considered low, even after combined current which is 16A+18A= at least 30A smile.gif
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as for me, i'd get those PSU with at least 22A (constant) on single rail smile.gif
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QUOTE(afosz @ Mar 13 2007, 12:12 PM)
any suggestion? 450-500W @ RM200-300 is it possible?
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you can get 560W Silverstone (Dual Rail though) @RM350... that's the best PSU i can suggest or, you can get FMA 460W or 535W...icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(irangan @ Mar 18 2007, 12:47 AM)
Guys, I was planning to get Silverstone OP650 next week. But currently I am thinking to get something modular. Is there any PSU that used single rail and at the same time Modular?

oh ya, my friend told me that modular PSU is not that good. Is that true?

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Silverstone also provide Decathlon series which is comes with powerful 90A single rail and modular design, if you want to get a non-modular, Olympia then...thumbup.gif, yeah, in comparison, multi-rail isn't good as single rail smile.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Mar 18 2007, 11:33 AM)
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Take PCP&C Turbocool 1KW as an example, the PCP&C is 1000W and utilize single +12V Rail with more than 90AMPs in that one and only +12V Rail.

It's the king of PSU. wub.gif
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...and Silverstone Olympia OP1000; Olympia OP1200 and Decathlon 1200, all single rail @>90A, only one make difference, OP series non-modular while Decathlon series, modular sleep.gif
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QUOTE(SonicSpyro @ Mar 22 2007, 11:19 PM)
C2D E6300
Kingston PC 667 DDR2 1GB*2
WinFast PX 8800GTS 320MB
W.D. 16MB 250GB
Gigabyte 965P DS3
Cooler Master Centurion 530
LG DVDRW 18x

SilverStone Strider 560W or
Enermax FMA Iron Power 535W?

Made a thread a while ago and it was suggested for me to get the Enermax PSU but now after reading a few threads...I wonder if it's enough.
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almost same Q as earlier post, anyway...both PSU are good, Enermax @22A each +12V (dual rail), while Silverstone @18A each +12V (dual rail), Enermax 535W slightly lower than Silverstone 560W, so it's neglectible tongue.gif, the only big difference, the color, FMA II comes with normal more like capalang brand PSU while Silverstone with nice black finishing thumbup.gif, if i were you, i'd choose the heaviest PSU...smile.gif
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QUOTE(afosz @ Mar 23 2007, 06:45 AM)
The heaviest? Does it mean Silverstone? Yup Silverstone's color is black, looks a bit elegant and cool tongue.gif while FMAII kinda looks like chapalang although the specs are great. Same price, higher watt brows.gif and its amps reliable
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i don't know, because, tried find Enermax's weight, found nothing on the web tongue.gif, as for my preference, when confuse between two PSU, i just take the heaviest one, thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Are_keem @ Mar 23 2007, 12:33 PM)
heaviest psu i've ever seen is FSP Bluestorm series..
weighs around 3kg+

-adios-
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yeah, nod.gif agreed, but even though it's heavy, i don't really like modular design and it's multi-rail PSU shakehead.gif, for that, i chose a single rail; non-modular PSU thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(lamely_named @ Mar 23 2007, 12:38 PM)
single rail is bad, very bad, bad bad bad bad.

if you SLI, Xfire or lots of components, the single rail will be stressed so much  that it explodes!!!!

and burn down your house, kill your family.

multirail is a must for high end system!!! protect your house, protect your family.
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doh.gif shakehead.gif, you're completely wrong...

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8. ARE MULTIPLE 12-VOLT RAILS BETTER THAN A SINGLE 12-VOLT RAIL?
With all the hype about multiple 12-volt rails (ads claim that two rails is better than one, five is better than four, etc.), you'd think it was a better design. Unfortunately, it's not!

Here are the facts: A large, single 12-volt rail (without a 240VA limit) can transfer 100% of the 12-volt output from the PSU to the computer, while a multi-rail 12-volt design has distribution losses of up to 30% of the power supply's rating. Those losses occur because power literally gets "trapped" on under-utilized rails. For example, if the 12-volt rail that powers the CPU is rated for 17 amps and the CPU only uses 7A, the remaining 10A is unusable, since it is isolated from the rest of the system.

Since the maximum current from any one 12-volt rail of a multiple-rail PSU is limited to 20 amps (240VA / 12 volts = 20 amps), PCs with high-performance components that draw over 20 amps from the same rail are subject to over-current shutdowns. With power requirements for multiple processors and graphics cards continuing to grow, the multiple-rail design, with its 240VA limit per rail, is basically obsolete.

PC Power and Cooling is once again leading the industry. All of our power supplies now feature a large, single 12-volt rail. The design is favored by major processor and graphics companies, complies with EPS12V specs (the 240VA limit is not a requirement) and is approved by all major safety agencies such as UL and TUV.


taken from PSU Myths @PCP&C

take a look again, most of "exotic" PCP&P uses single rail, Silverstone Olympia/Decathlon single rail, even those multi-rail PSU is actually drewn from single rail, only you don't know that...
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QUOTE(Are_keem @ Mar 23 2007, 02:50 PM)
correction, its non-modular and multi-rail psu..
but the +12v rail is very weak, 15A and 14A  shakehead.gif
the real power is 460W but FSP labelled it as 500W..
howcome?  shakehead.gif

-adios-
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oops.gif pardon me...yeah, FSP does comes with non-modular design, but still on multi-rail shakehead.gif

ok, back to topic about rail thingy...

@lamely_named, i'm not saying that multi-rail PSU isn't good, and yes, from what i've read the link your provide, the advantage having multi-rail PSU is unnoticeable, instead, having a single rail PSU is good why? because, when comes into overclocking (which is like kinda of trend nowadays...), single rail is more stable than multi-rail. i'm not just saying that, i'm talking bout my XP with single rail vs multi-rail PSU as i posted earlier.
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QUOTE(afosz @ Mar 23 2007, 03:52 PM)
How to determine which is single-rail, which is multi-rail? On PSU specs, one column of +12V is single-rail while the other that has +12V1, +12V2 are multi-rail? And what about modular and non-modular?
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you can check on PSU's label smile.gif, and yes, if you see +12V, it's single, while if you get to see +12V1; +12V2; +12V3...and so on, it's multiple rail

modular and non-modular? easy, if your PSU's cable can simply detach from your PSU, it's modular, if not, it's non-modular - this is good for cable management, as some people might not want unused cable hanging around tongue.gif
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i already knew that multi-rail PSU isn't really a multi rail PSU, in fact it comes from large single rail.

this is from Silent Preview smile.gif

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article28-page3.html
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QUOTE(akachester @ Mar 27 2007, 07:25 PM)
Just wondering, would it be safe to use a 4pin connector to the 8pin motherboard in long term usage?Currently i own a PSU with 4pin connector but my mobo comes with 8pin.Is it a necessary to change to a 8pin PSU or just plug in the 4pin into the mobo?Just afraid that it might be damaging in long term..
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hmm.gif, when comes into overclocking, yes, definitely, you're gonna need 8-pin connector, otherwise, 4-pin into 8-pin should be all right...i'm not sure where's the site, quite long time, but, i saw a pix, using SLI-DR Expert with 20-pin ATX + 4-pin CPU...
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QUOTE(akachester @ Mar 27 2007, 10:48 PM)
I intent to OC with my new board (thats my intention when i get it) but still does not have enough budget yet to get a good PSU (Silverstone in mind).Therefore, i thought of using my current PSU in performing the job for me..What effect it might have if i insist on using the 4pin on 8pin mobo and OC as well?
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hmm.gif, instability issue will rise up nod.gif

QUOTE(Joseph Hahn @ Mar 29 2007, 03:54 PM)
I might get a SST Zeus 750W. No OP750 in bulk order i'm afraid. sad.gif
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OP750? AFAIK, BULK only bring OP650 and OP1000, spoke to one of BULKer, kingmaker_20, he said that he will bring in OP750 smile.gif

OP750 @60A brows.gif
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QUOTE(borhan @ Apr 7 2007, 02:36 AM)
so what psu should i buy that can support c2d e6600 and 8800gts..budget max rm350 but cheaper is better coz out of budget already.. sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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hmm.gif Silverstone Strider 560W should be all right icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(jy14 @ Apr 7 2007, 08:53 AM)
Yeah thumbup.gif  This PSU is a good solution to for that price range. Only drawbacks is its not Modular. Still the juice from it rocks, with 3 years warranty too.
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i'm not into modular type PSU though, modular type PSU not as good as non-modular i must tell you...

QUOTE(Kataro @ Apr 7 2007, 10:34 AM)
Wanna ask something... in speedfan, it show that my +12V at around 11.13V, in BIOS, it show as 11.8V, so I should consider my PSU is not overloaded or ??? In BIOS, many hardware haven draw much juice from the PSU yet right, so that why it can get 11.8V, am I right? Been searching for higher watt PSU but most of them not Modular... some got modular but too expensive pulak... doh.gif  now dare not to OC my proc yet coz of the PSU... sweat.gif
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that's what we called, voltage fluctuation, the reading may varies from another PSU to another, anywhere from 11.7V ~ 12.7V should be all right... and the best value is, get as close to 12.00V value thumbup.gif, no matter on full load or idle...

QUOTE(dawn152 @ Apr 7 2007, 11:11 AM)
anyone can recommend me a good 'green' power supply? is this kind of psu can handle high end gaming system? we're talking sli, sound card etc. thanks in advanced.
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shocking.gif, i don't get what you mean "green", is it CoolerMaster iGreen? is that what you mean?
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QUOTE(dawn152 @ Apr 7 2007, 05:59 PM)
from what i understand, a 'green' psu is an environmental-friendly psu and only uses an amount of power needed by the pc without actually supplying the whole power that the psu can support. for an example, a 'green' 650w psu, eventhough it can power up until 650w, more or less, if the pc is only using 400w, that's how much power the psu will provide. thus making them quite energy efficient. i hope that clear that up.
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then it's called efficiency, the more the better icon_idea.gif, say a 80% efficiency is much better than 65% efficiency PSU, and FYI, all PSU only consume power needed by the system...
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QUOTE(hazz @ Apr 9 2007, 11:44 AM)
newbie question here:
i found that my psu acbel i-power psu ATX power connector is 20+4 pin,
but my mobo stated the power pin is 24 pin
can the 20+4 pin fit into the 24 pin power pin?
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as long as it's 24 pin, should be all right, your PSU is 20+4 meaning, 4 pin detachable, if your's 24 pin, then it's undetachable smile.gif...

QUOTE(LExus65 @ Apr 9 2007, 12:00 PM)
modular and non modular PSU whats the difference ?? getting quite confuse over this term ??

is modular = fit into standard casing PSU slot,
non doesnt fit ?

it would be best to give dimensions too ??
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modular : you have to plug/unplug cable, it's great for cable management and looks tidy
non-modular : old style tongue.gif, just like an old PSU cable management...

there are pros and cons about modular vs non-modular...

simple way... thumbup.gif
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source : http://www.ocia.net/reviews/hiperpsus/page1.shtml
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QUOTE(Devilhpk @ Apr 11 2007, 09:53 PM)
Athlon 64 X2 3600+ 2X512 (maybe change 2 higher proc)
Biostar TA690G AM2
160GB HDD Seagate Sata2
1GBx2 Kingston PC5300 DDR2 667
Colourful 7600GT 256Mb DDR3
LG DVD-RW drive
LG DVD drive
1.44mb Floopy drive
Samsung 19" 932B+

Can i just use casing PSU or i need 2 buy PSU?
Got any recommendation?
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Casing PSU? you meant stock le... anyway... that one, we called capalang PSU laugh.gif, any you should get a new rock stable PSU, state your budget, which model/type you prefer? is it modular type? non-modular? want to grab a multi-rail PSU or single-rail PSU? do you mind in getting a grey finishing or want to get a nice bling², black PSU? icon_idea.gif

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