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 Choosing The Right PSU, Discussions about power supply units.

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post Jul 3 2011, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(cardin @ Jul 3 2011, 07:34 PM)
thanks for your suggestion i think i'll go for silversone strider essential 500W...it will give me more value for money i guess...smile.gif TDUEnthusiast, mind to share where did you quote the price for silverstone strider essential 500W at RM199? i've checked out most of LY Plaza pricelist is at RM230++... sad.gif
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hmm.gif. It looks like the price has increased for that power supply.

Anyway, you can get it for RM219 from Viewnet. smile.gif
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post Jul 4 2011, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(kuekwee @ Jul 4 2011, 06:13 PM)
About the half load stuff, say i need power about 500w so i need to get 1000w psu to be full efficient? How about electric bill, i heard some guy using 1000w psu monthly bill jump alot
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It's just slightly better, but if you want it to be the best then that's one of the options you can turn to.

And electrical bill wise, it should lower your electrical bill since a power supply with a higher efficiency wastes less power compared to one with a lower efficiency. Bear in mind that although you have a 1000W power supply, if 500W is all your system requires that that is what it will use. The power supply does not supply 1000W all of the time unless you are using that amount.
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QUOTE(kuekwee @ Jul 4 2011, 06:58 PM)
thanks for the reply now i have understand more. After I read the forum i notice one more thing is the efficiency, for example strider gold and strider silver. Gold give more efficiency, is this important issue? This is the first time i'm trying to build a pc myself so i would like to understand more.
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It actually depends on the users.

If you want a power supply that is silent, and that can help you save a bit of money on your monthly electrical bill, then you should definitely go for power supplies which have a high efficiency e.g those with a Gold certification. There is also a Platinum Efficiency certification but those aren't very common, and will cost you a lot of money.

Otherwise if you're fine with noise and just want a power supply to supply the required amount of power for the system, then getting a power supply with an 80 Plus or 80 Plus Bronze ( 80% efficiency and 80~83% efficiency respectively ) will do fine. An example would be the Seasonic Silence Pro 750W power supply. The higher the efficiency of a power supply, the less power is wasted, that causes less heat to be generated, which ultimately negates the need for the power supply fan to spin at high speeds to cool the power supply down.

I'm currently using the FSP Aurum Gold 700W which is a Gold certified power supply, and it is a very silent power supply and it also runs cool smile.gif.
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QUOTE(cardin @ Jul 5 2011, 09:13 AM)
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how about trusted brand?
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Seasonic is one of the best power supply manufacturer in the industry. Their power supplies are widely used and re-badged by other brands e.g Corsair and PC Power & Cooling to be sold as their own. smile.gif

Gigabyte's also fine but their power supply list hasn't been updated for quite some time, and most of the shops are still holding old stocks, so you're better off going with other brands e.g Seasonic. As for AcBEL, their lower-end power supplies isn't exactly commendable while their high-end power supplies are pretty good, albeit not the best.

From the power supply list that you have gotten, your priority would be to get either a Seasonic 500W / Corsair 500W or a Silverstone 500W power supply, while the other two PSUs should be left as an alternative option. As for your question on the cooling fan, a 120MM fan is definitely better than an 80MM fan as the former does not have to spin as fast as the latter to generate the same amount of air, therefore reducing noise smile.gif. But if the smaller fan has a good design then it's also possible that it will be better than a 120MM fan of poor quality.
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The weight of a power supply used to be used by people to determine the power supply's quality, but now it's no longer accurate as technology has advanced to a point where power supplies can now provide more power with components that weigh less.

As for cable sleeving, it actually depends on the individual. While it may be an eyesore for some, lets face it; you get what you pay for. RM159 for a 500W power supply is pretty cheap. If you demand the rest of the Hexa cables to be sleeved, then be prepared to pay extra. Even without its cable sleeved, an individual's cable management for his or her system still can be very good provided that the chassis itself has the appropriate cable management holes.

Anyway, I believe the Hexa power supply is not only one that suffers from a 4+4 CPU power connector that's too short, my previous Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 500W and even the Cooler Master Real Power Pro 650W power supply have a CPU power connector that's too short to be routed through the back of the motherboard tray and out from the top. These three power supplies are probably not the only power supplies that suffer from such an issue.

In my opinion, I'd say that FSP made it ( HEXA ) in such a way because they had low-budget users in mind, as in users that do not own chassis that is designed according to our decade's standard, e.g chassis that still has its power supply location located at the top instead of the bottom.

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QUOTE(buntalamus @ Jul 16 2011, 08:48 PM)
Need help here... I wanna build a rig...
And thebspec r ;

I7 2600k
Maximus z68
Dom 2x4gb
1tb hd
160gb 2.5 ssd
2x msi hd5870 lighting
Swiftec waterpump
Dvd
Razer mouse n keybord
2x230mm fan
5x120mm fan led
2x140mm fan led
4x ccfl

What is the best psu do i need?thanks
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You can consider the FSP Aurum Gold 700W for RM489 from ALL IT smile.gif. It will support two HD5870s and also the rest of your items fine.
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QUOTE(Luftwacko @ Jul 17 2011, 12:19 AM)
Guys, may I know what's the recommended PSU for SLI setup? Specifically speaking, for GTX560 TI?
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That depends on your entire setup, but a 600W power supply e.g the Corsair GS 600 can support 2x GTX560 Ti fine in a high-end system as its 12V rail's very beefy smile.gif.

To be on the safe side, you should get a 650W power supply or perhaps a 700W power supply.

QUOTE(Searingmage @ Jul 17 2011, 12:52 PM)

Hmmmm, which of these few should I choose?
FSP aurum gold 700w
seasonic silence pro 760w
seasonic x750
silverstone strider essential 700w
silverstone strider 750w
I am wondering if gold efficiency is really that important.. I would prefer to get a 750w PSU for future proof but... hmm.gif
While I currently only use a single 6950, I may cfx it in the near future, so will need around 700w PSU.. But, if it's possible, when I change my system in the future, I hope that my PSU can migrate to the new system..

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If you are looking for a power supply that has a good price to performance value, then your best bet would be the Seasonic Silence Pro 750W power supply. If you could afford the Seasonic X-750 then you should go for it. There's the Seasonic X-760 so you should take that over the Seasonic X-750 if you can. It has longer cables if I remember correctly.

If you intend on saving some extra money on your monthly electrical bill, then you should buy power supplies which have a high efficiency rating e.g one with a Gold efficiency certification. Power supplies that have a high efficiency also tend to run cooler as well as much more silent than one which is less efficient as there will be less heat produced because less electricity is wasted.
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QUOTE(Searingmage @ Jul 17 2011, 01:26 PM)
Is the electric bill difference noticable? If it's not, then besides for the sake of going green, there's not much point of getting a gold efficiency psu right?
The problem is, gold efficiency PSU are much more expensive than those normal one, which made me wonder if I should really spend the extra buck for it..
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If you want your system to run silently then getting a power supply with a high efficiency is one of the ways you can use to reduce its noise as the fan will not have to spin at speeds which can generate quite a bit of sound to remove the heat produced by the power supply.

QUOTE(Luftwacko @ Jul 17 2011, 01:09PM)
Thanks.  smile.gif

How about overclocking?
Well then, the Corsair GS 600 will still hold. Guru3D's test of two GTX560 Ti in SLI mode had the power consumption going at 449W ( whole system ), and the system has an overclocked Intel i7 965.

Since your system is using an Intel Core i3 530 ( if I remember correctly ) processor, then the power consumption will definitely be less than that. The GS 600 can supply up to 576W of power on its 12V rail and that's still more than enough for your system even when it's overclocked. However, again, to be on the safe side you should consider going for a 650W / 700W power supply smile.gif
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QUOTE(Luftwacko @ Jul 17 2011, 02:04 PM)
Thanks a bunch.

I think I'll get a Corsair GS 700W based on ur recommendation.  smile.gif

EDIT:
Is Silverstone Strider Essential 700W good?
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There doesn't seem to be any review on the Strider Essential 700W, but considering that Silverstone is pretty well known for power supplies which are good / excellent in quality, I don't see any reason to not get it other than price factor.

QUOTE(kuekwee @ Jul 18 2011, 09:43 AM)
600w enuf for gtx 560 sli? would it be max out the psu. I'm using 850w on the safe side hahaha..
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If it's a good 600W power supply then it should support two GTX560s. smile.gif
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Jul 24 2011, 07:47 AM)
Oh Ok...but IIRC GoldFries Sayz that that PSU can support his GTX460 Wo 24/7 somemore  shocking.gif  hmm.gif  rclxub.gif
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It works, but it's not recommended since it will stress the power supply. Power supplies which are stressed may not last as long as the manufacturer has intended it to.

QUOTE(hazwandek @ Jul 24 2011, 12:44 PM)
hi i hv noob question, if i buy 1000W psu, will it generated 1000w or only the power that my system needed? for example, my system need 650W , will it generate 650W or 1000W?

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It will only supply the required amount of power, not 1000W at all times. smile.gif
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Jul 24 2011, 06:37 PM)
Oh man sad.gif  I thought of Going 5770. doh.gif
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Actually the Gigabyte PoweRock 390W will power a HD5770 fine.

A system with an Intel Core i5 750 with a HD5770 in it consumes around 208W ( load ). The Gigabyte PoweRock 390W can supply up to 288W of power on its 12V rail, which is more than enough to run the system. Whats more is that benchmarks tend to stress the PC components to the max, which means that the average power consumption will be higher than usual. The average users does not run their system with their system components loaded to 100% all of the time.

But before we confirm that it will run a HD5770 and your system fine, what are your system's specifications?
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Jul 24 2011, 06:48 PM)
This and it's for my cousin lol he after PMR interested in COD so need GC.
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What is his monitor's resolution?
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Jul 24 2011, 07:03 PM)
I think is 1600x900. 20Inch.
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Well then, a HD5750 will do fine at that resolution. It consumes less power than the HD5770 too so you won't have to worry so much about running it with a Gigabyte PoweRock 390W. But seeing that a HD5770 costs just around RM30 / RM50 more than the HD5750, perhaps you could suggest that your cousin get the Gigabyte PoweRock 390W first then get a better power supply in the near future, or cross your fingers and hope that the PoweRock 390W runs his system and the HD5770 fine for as long as he is intending to use it smile.gif.
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Jul 24 2011, 07:26 PM)
No he IS using Gigabyte Power Rock 390W and he wants a GC below RM400 1st hand with out Upgrading PSU,you see he sorrta you call Stingy.
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Then he can choose to go with either the HD5770 or the HD5750.
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Jul 24 2011, 07:36 PM)
Alright and which make/brand you suggest? Go with the cheapest?
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Yes, or you can choose one that has the best cooler ( that is if they're not all using AMD's HD5770 reference cooler ).
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Jul 24 2011, 08:00 PM)
Any suggestions ?  hmm.gif
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You're going to have to browse through the available HD5770s / HD5750 at Low Yat. The shops' price list does not give a detailed information of the HD5770s / HD5750s that they have.
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QUOTE(FiragaZ @ Jul 26 2011, 01:40 PM)
500w psu like FSP Hexa is able to power a radeon 5830?
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It's able to smile.gif.
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QUOTE(hahanep @ Jul 27 2011, 08:31 PM)
guys, since its hard to find u all rec psu in jb that within my budget..need to ask, is gigabyte power rock 500w ok?
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There aren't any reviews on that particular power supply, unfortunately. However, on paper it looks pretty good for a 500W power supply. It can supply up to 432W of power on its 12V rails and its also 80 Plus certified.

QUOTE(trisx @ Jul 28 2011, 12:43 AM)
CM real power pro 550w is ok to power up HD 5830? if CF enuff not? or not safe?
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It's enough to power up a single HD5830. However, for two HD5830s, you will need to get a power supply with at least 600W of power e.g the Corsair GS 600 power supply which has a beefy 12V rail to power up two of them to be on the safe side.
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QUOTE(Auriel @ Aug 1 2011, 03:20 PM)
hmm, if i'm looking for a new psu what would you suggest? I just had a look at Silverstone Strider 500w and it looks OK for me, or do I need a better one?

EDIT : also saw this guy selling 550w psu for rm135 only. (i am price concerned)

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1799064

can his psu work?
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If you intend to buy the power supply from him then you're going to have to see if it's working fine by testing it with a system. Alternatively, you can always use a small metal wire to jump start the power supply and connect some fans to it to see if it's working ( if you're interested about the jump starting part you can request for more info ).

The Cooler Master Real Power Pro 550W has a "fault-LED" which is red in color and is located beside the power supply's switch. It lights up if the power supply is faulty, so the task of identifying a faulty power supply should be very easy with it present.

I would however, recommend that you get a brand new power supply as the power supply from that link is only covered by 40 days of warranty. A new power supply usually comes with 2 ~ 3 years of warranty or 5 if you're buying a premium power supply. You will also be able to avoid any worries e.g a power supply's premature failure since a new power supply is, well, brand new and it should not have any problems.

The Silverstone Strider Essential 500W is a pretty good power supply. You can go for that if you like. You can also choose to go with the FSP Hexa 500W power supply at RM159 which is a good power supply. Only its main 24-PIN motherboard and CPU connector ( if I remember correctly ) is sleeved though, so if a power supply's aesthetic is important for you, then feel free to go ahead with the previously mentioned power supply ( Silverstone ).
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QUOTE(mitodna @ Aug 8 2011, 09:36 AM)
need recommendation, looking to power PSU:

G620
H67
6x SATA
GPU maybe 6770 range, (optional)

which PSU should I go about, can the Gigabyte 390W power those without the GPU? budget less than 200MYR, prefers energy

many thanks.
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It's more than enough. It can even power up the system with the HD6770, though a 450W power supply is recommended for safety and power supply lifespan reasons.

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