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Photography The Sony Alpha Thread V62, From A to E Mount!

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post Nov 9 2015, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(philipcs @ Nov 9 2015, 11:07 AM)
DOF = Depth of Field.
You will not get the same even both set to 1.8.
FF lens DOF will be more shallow than the APSC lens = more bokeh effect in FF Lenses
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DOF is actually the same. It's just the sensor crop 35mm eqv image thus narrower Field of View. When you have narrower FOV, you need to step back more to cover the subject, therefore wider DOF due to bigger distance between you and the subject. Don't forget longer focal length also affects the bokehness.

To get equivalent FF, 50mm f1.8, you need lens around 30mm f1.0 (if this exist) on APSC to stay around the same distance from the subject.

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post Dec 14 2015, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(digitalz @ Dec 14 2015, 09:34 AM)
What program do you use to process your files? Some shots that I took, I am actually satisfied with them but then the effects are missing after I import them to the programs I used. rclxub.gif
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Thats because you cannot modify RAW file. Thats why it is "raw", unprocessed data. If you apply effects it must comes out as jpeg for the effect to work.

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post Dec 17 2015, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(NLCH880215 @ Dec 17 2015, 07:52 AM)
i would like to ask, why the picture i view in mac is nice but when view in window's there is noise show out? will it effect the final print out?
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Only way to know that is to print it out. Image is displayed differently between hardwares and that includes printer model. To get what you see on monitor onto print, you need to calibrate the hardwares.
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post Mar 3 2016, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Mar 3 2016, 02:30 PM)
I'm torn between SEL1670Z and SEL18105G for kit lens replacement and longer focal length. The max focal length on the Zeiss one is shorter than Sony's one. Any pro suggestion between these 2? rclxub.gif
Or maybe I can take a look at other brands?
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I dont own those two. But 1670Z has much sharper img (Zeiss afterall) from review i saw. 18-105 is more for videographer and has very noticeable distortion which is corrected inbody if you take jpeg. If i were you i will take zeiss for sharper img. But for video 18-105 cause of powerzoom for smoother zoom.

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post Mar 11 2016, 10:41 AM

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A6300 is an odd camera IMO. On one hand it tries to be 4k video camera but missing important video camera feature like vari angle lcd, earphone jack and no touchscreen. All that at x2 the price of a6000 with little improvement on img quality? That and very few apsc e mount fast lens. If you buy FE mount lens on apsc, you might as well go FF.

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post Mar 11 2016, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(Rainings @ Mar 11 2016, 04:44 PM)
hmm..
how to choose between sony 35mm f1.8 vs sigma 30mm f1.4
both pricing almost the same. sony with oss  hmm.gif
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Oss is useless if you shoot moving object more. With 1.4, you can have higher shutter speed.
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post Mar 12 2016, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Mar 12 2016, 03:00 PM)
You'll be spending more on FF lenses if u go A7ii. So there's still a saving grace if you opt for A6300
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Problem is native apsc lens on sony arent cheap either and limited. Sony seems to concentrate more on FF lens than apsc lens.
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post Mar 12 2016, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Mar 12 2016, 09:21 PM)
Here, lemme correct that for you.

To be fair, APSC is likely to Sony just there to intro people to their FF line. They are not Fuji, who only has an APSC-centric lineup.

Though some of us prefer to remain APSC for various reasons. For me, it's size and cost (travel = high risk = easy to conceal and replace).

That said, people like me isn't really the main target market for Sony (actually, it's the M43's target market... and looking at the new Oly Pen, I'm quite tempted to move over - if not for the body cost). So it's no surprise that Sony doesn't really give a rats ass about the APSC glass lineup. It's just not commercially profitable.

But like ganick5461 said, it's still the cheapest way for a videographer with Sony stuff to go 4k, considering the A7rII and A7sII is well, even more expensive (A7s needs an external recorder so thats out).
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That's the thing. If I'm a videographer, even I would be hesitant to go A6300. It's not cheap. It lacks quite a substantial video features like headphone jack, vari-angle screen and touchscreen (maybe not important to some, but at that price point........). There are better alternatives like panasonic line-up: GH4 or G7 with better support due to its legacy and more video-centric features.

If you look at the other extra features on A6300, it appears to lean towards photo capture than video. Higher fps, better autofocus, minimal black out, higher res viewfinder, silent shooting which would have been a nice upgrade to A6000. It's probably the 4k feature that jack up the price.

So the question is exactly who are they trying to sell A6300? Upgrade is too minimal to justify upgrading from A6000 if they only primarily shoot photos and budget concious not to mention most of them probably don't own 4k TV. Professional would be aware of the camera video limitation and that Sony doesn't offer much apsc lens selection either. But that said, I still think A6300 will sell like hot-cakes.

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post Mar 13 2016, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(shootkk @ Mar 13 2016, 10:44 PM)
The A6300 is the top end APS-C model. It offers:

- world's fastest AF (arguably)
- more AF points than you can shake your fist at
- small form factor (with IBIS it will be bigger and you guys will start complaining)
- 4K video

If you don't want to fork out a fortune for APS-C then jump to Full Frame where the A7 line awaits.

Right now, the A7ii is the entry level. A7 phasing out. Premium models are the A7Rii and A7Sii. Word has it that A7iii is in the pipeline but we don't know how much that will cost when released.

So, for those of you sitting on the fence, either you stay with APS-C or make the jump to FF now.

A mount will still have something as per the rumour site but no dates as of yet and I have a feeling that it will cost another arm and leg when the new model is released. Probably with IBIS and 4K all rolled into one.
Spam one pic taken with the A7ii and Zeiss 50mm

That's the E-mount body with A-mount lens on the LA-EA3 adapter. After the firmware update, the phase detect AF is lightning fast and accurate though it does not cover the whole sensor. The area it does cover is almost like that of the LA-EA4 adapter.
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Pretty sure they can put in IBIS without compromising body size. Olympus did it with PEN-F. Wonder if Sony had to choose between IBIS or 4k when deciding on A6000 successor. Maybe IBIS on A6100 or A6200 in future?

Inclusion of 4k feature is usually the culprit for the bigger body, components or features sacrifice to make room and expensive metallic construction for heat ventilation purpose. Just look at GH4.

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post Mar 13 2016, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Mar 13 2016, 11:29 PM)
Yeah... that long running piece of vapourware lol. Long rumoured, never released.

Right now, just waiting for the Sig30C to hit so that people can review it. Initial samples look pretty nice, though its no Touit for sure.

It's not an Art lens for a reason after all. A lot of distortion for a "standard" lens really, and contrast is pretty low overall SOOC. Or at least it looks that way with the sample pics floating around.

Still pretty interested though.

DaddyO Makes you wonder if the A6300 is gonna have overheating issues really. I mean, same A6000 body + 4k.
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Have to wait till it comes out. Got different testimonies on the heating issue. One says no problem, another said will shut down prematurely under hot sun.
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QUOTE(shootkk @ Mar 14 2016, 09:54 AM)
Olympus uses micro four thirds sensors so those are a little smaller compared to the APS-C sensors used in the A6000 series. If you look at the A7 and A7ii, the A7ii gained a little weight after IBIS.

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M43 and apsc difference is not that pronounce lah. If sony can manufacture evf that is tiny enough to fit in rx100, they can fit ibis too in a6000 size. A7ii gain weight cause of metal construct to dissipate that 4k heat .
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QUOTE(shootkk @ Mar 14 2016, 11:50 AM)
A7ii does not have 4k video. So the IBIS itself does take up some space. Going from FF to FF, with IBIS there is still a need for bigger housing. Remember, the sensor needs to compensate for movements on 5 axis.
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Oops i though u meant a7rii. Sony and their perplexing numbering convention. Btw, i think a7ii got bigger because of ergonomic reason cause a7 has a strange and lousy shutter button placement.
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QUOTE(-Max91- @ Mar 14 2016, 03:57 PM)
Hi, thanks for replying. Still new to photography, do you mind explaining to me what are the advantages of having a constant aperture zoom. Also for the 1670Z, that lens is more versatile, am I right? Cause I am also considering that to replace my current kit lens that came with A6000
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Constant aperture zoom benefits video. While you record and zoom at the same time, you wont see the exposure changing as the aperture is the same. Of course for photography there is also benefits as constant aperture zoom lens tend to have higher aperture on tele end than conventional lens.
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Apr 8 2016, 01:55 PM)
Hi, I am newbie here. I need something portable and yet good quality and below RM2k. My recommend Sony A6000. What you guys think?
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Portable with kit lens. Not portable with any other lens aside from pancake lens. Just a thought.

Or get rx100mkiii

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post Apr 13 2016, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(Loseeker @ Apr 13 2016, 12:00 AM)
Hi guys, wanna get some opinions from you sifu. Just got my a6000 slightly over 2 weeks ago. The firmware is version 2.00. However I just realized there's a 3.10 version. Should I update the firmware seeing that I'm only having the 1650 kit and 18105 f4(on delivery). I've watched the guide on youtube, seems to be pretty easy. But never done this before, kinda afraid will brick the camera. Is it worth taking the risk ?  confused.gif
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Probably won't matter much if you own the same lens as old as the a6000. But you probably miss out on improvements such as better autofocus speed. Or that the newer lens like the sigma 30mm f1.4 dc dn won't work as well without the update.

Just make sure the battery is 100% charged up, sd card formatted and read the update manual carefully (not just randomly search youtube as the only guide) and you will be fine.
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post Apr 19 2016, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(KoYuKii @ Apr 19 2016, 06:27 PM)
poison poison !!!

is it a good move, convert DSLR to mirroless ?
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Not really. Canon and nikon from what I see still got some advantages over mirrorless. However if you really want something light and easy to carry around, mirrorless is the way to go. But you need to pair it with small lens like a pancake lens otherwise you can throw the "small and light" benefit out.
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QUOTE(chinti @ Apr 24 2016, 11:03 AM)
Worth selling my Canon 6D and 24-70 f2.8 for Sony a7 and 28 f2?
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If you like a7 shutter button placement, sure why not?
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QUOTE(kyLL @ Apr 25 2016, 08:04 AM)
Mmmm.. Bokeh is bokehlicious... Not sure if it's worth the 1.5k price tag..
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F1.4 worth a lot more than 1.5k. So quite a bargain.

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Apr 25 2016, 01:37 PM)
Apparently it doesn't do so well for full on landscaping though... or at least that's what the forums are saying. At small apertures the field curvature is *very* noticeable.

It's not an ART after all. That said, if you keep shooting subjects that aren't far away you won't really notice it much though.

As of now, IMHO it's a toss up between the Sig30-1.4 faster speed (and horrid curvature) vs the OSS + better optical characteristics of the SEL35 (which, of course, has it own fair share of issues, i.e. the horrid LoCA and general blurriness wide open).

Also, a few more hundreds gets you a Touit 32 too, which has crap focusing and lumpy bokeh but is awesome everywhere else.

Of course, the best option would be the Dista 35 but it's a monstrosity, both in size and cost lol.
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Why would you get 30mm f1.4 for landscape is beyond me. Perceptual mps maybe lower at widest aperture but im not pixel peeping. And for me, better low light lens than 1.8.

However if you love to take landscape shot at that focal length, no doubt sony 35mm f1.8 be better with oss.

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QUOTE(kyLL @ Apr 25 2016, 05:45 PM)
im guessing you mean for a 1.4 autofocus lens.. but its a tossup between this and the rokinon 12mm f2 for me.
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Errr....not sure what you talking about unless you think the other RM6k Sony Distagon f1.4 is more justifiable.

But why compare it to a 12mm is beyond me. 30mm is not exactly a landscape lens.

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