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 CITIZEN @ OLD KLANG ROAD BY BINASTRA LAND (VER 2), next to Lee Chong Wei Sports Complex

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kochin
post Jun 20 2017, 09:27 PM

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Property Focus
Would appreciate your prompt response here please.
Thanks.
kochin
post Jun 20 2017, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(Property Focus @ Jun 20 2017, 02:08 PM)
It has come to our knowledge, unfortunately, that there are property agents in this forum who are making wild allegations without facts nor basis with the intention of misleading readers of this forum and members of the public in general.

At worst some of their statements were even clearly made to discredit the good reputation of the developer and to cause confusion.

All readers are kindly advised to ignore any misleading or provocative statements and to  immediately complain to or seek clarification from Mr. Steven Ooi (012 3034287) or Ms. Cindy Tan (017 3172032) of Binastra Land.

As developer, we will not tolerate any such statements in future and will not hesitate to take appropriate actions against those who negligently or intentionally publishes or disseminates any untrue or misleading statements  appearing in this forum or elsewhere or their proxies.

We will also start collecting evidences and once enough evidence is gathered we will proceed to escalate this to the relevant authorities.

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In case reader is unaware of who Property Focus is claiming to be.
kochin
post Jun 21 2017, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(nihilistpuppy @ Jun 6 2017, 01:16 PM)
got a place at citizen 2. loan just got approved yesterday. 883 sq ft, partially furnished. hopefully binastra wont break their promise
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be careful of your statement, binastra may sue you for defamation.

QUOTE(etlynleon @ Jun 6 2017, 02:27 PM)
you are silly to think that they wont break promise. they will. i will not recommend anyone to buy binastra project anymore. liar contractor turned developer.
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lagi geng chau. outright confirmation.
pls do share more but risk a litigation.

QUOTE(Dnathan @ Jun 10 2017, 02:08 PM)
Hi, does anyone know whether the road between Citizen 1 and 2 is a single or two lane road?
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good question. try as you may, be it online or email or fb or whatever, don't think you would get an answer unless you contact them. but even then, what's the point if they would not openly give an official answer, right?
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post Jun 21 2017, 10:15 AM

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since binastra doesn't seems like responding to any questions, let's savour some of their commitment as per their marketing materials, shall we?




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kochin
post Jun 29 2017, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(Jitty @ Jun 29 2017, 04:25 PM)
Same, i take CIMB also after appealing the rate. 4.7 to 4.45. happy.gif
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that's a big difference.

anyway hearsay best offer now is approx 4.29%?
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post Jul 1 2017, 07:24 AM

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QUOTE(PabloTH @ Jun 30 2017, 08:51 PM)
This citizen 1 project is going to be a winner.

I have visited citizen 2 show room and things were planned in a terrible way.

The phase 2 project is way too crampy with little landscape available. The room layouts are smallish as well. The pools are...weird to me.

After looking at citizen 1 sales kit which i got from the same agent, i realized things are planned in a much better way. Not only you guys are getting almost 1100 square feet of spaces, you also get two side by side parkings and spacious facilities floor.

In contrast, that phase 2 project has either 1 carpark or tandem parking for most units. If i were a prospective ownstayer, i will never consider phase 2 at all.
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Fully agree!

It's a classic casa indah 1 vs 2
Or Ken 1 vs 2
Or casa dsara 1 vs 2

In theory the sequel is supposedly better and improve from the first. But usually the sequel is disappointing.
Kakakaka
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post Jul 1 2017, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(bf1119 @ Jul 1 2017, 02:43 PM)
Ct1 will be affected by ct2 in the first few yrs due to the dust,noise from on going construction of ct2.  So ct1 owner get ready that rental and subsales may not so good once vp.
After ct2 vp, then tenants will go for latest new condo ct2..
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Can look at history as i shared. Does the pool of tenant shift from casa 1 to 2?
Ken 1 to 2?

Again everything you said make perfect sense (in theory) but somehow history proven that was not the case with those projects.

Will this buck the trend? No one knows and only time will tell.

Can we also term fennel as sequel to capers?

kochin
post Jul 5 2017, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(ckloke2 @ Jul 3 2017, 12:13 AM)
Regrettably citizen 1 852sqft owners are the worst hit! Depreciate in value coupled with direct competition with citizen 2...
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QUOTE(nihilistpuppy @ Jul 5 2017, 11:15 AM)
Yeah, I think the one who suffer most are the 800 sq ft buyers.
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can i assume the following:
citi
852sf 2br2bath

maintenance @ RM0.33psf = RM281 per month
avg selling price say RM580psf? absolute RM494k


citi2
725sf 2br2bath
@RM0.36psf = RM261 per month
@RM650psf? = RM471k

difference per month for maintenance is approx RM20 and difference in installment would be circa RM116 based on 4.5% for 30 years.
Total difference is less than RM150 all in all per month.

difference in size of these 2 offering is approximately nearly 20%.

and assuming targeted rental is say RM1500 per month. question is would tenants pay extra RM150 or 10% for citi1 to enjoy 20% larger area and slightly less densed development?

similarly for sales, and again assuming all things equal, at same price point, would citi 1 be more disposable or citi 2 if both are say asking at RM550k post completion?

i think the difference is pretty negligible.
please comment.
cheers!
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post Jul 6 2017, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(nihilistpuppy @ Jul 5 2017, 12:33 PM)
Actually, citizen 2 maintanence is 0.39psf bro...

You have a good point. But I think people will gravitate towards citizen 2 because it's the newer one. Consumer mentality is often new = better. Also, if you look at the facilities, citizen 2 does trump citizen 1.
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i am intrigued.
what are the facilities for citizen2?
can ist down all of it?
best still if you have the facilities plans to share?
thanks.
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post Jul 6 2017, 12:28 PM

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talk is cheap.

i have done a detailed comparison of the facilities between these 2 development.

which is better, you guys judge yourself.

citizen 2 have a very distinct proposition which is its dual pool thingy. one can treat their level 2 as the main pool instead with proper 50m distance complete with jacuzzi and children pool. however it's considered a sheltered pool. sheltered pool have pros and cons. usually sheltered pool or indoor pool will have very cold water. unless it comes with heated water else it could be a bit unwelcoming. of course the pros would be swimmers can rejoice and have their swim irrespective rain or shine.

but strangely though citizen 2 seems to be missing a few key facilities such as:
indoor proper gym (unless they treat their sky gym as the main one but it's just too small)
no designated nursery or kindergarten
no provision for convenience store/mini market
and strangely no mentioning of bbq area?



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kochin
post Jul 6 2017, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(nihilistpuppy @ Jul 5 2017, 12:33 PM)
Actually, citizen 2 maintanence is 0.39psf bro...

You have a good point. But I think people will gravitate towards citizen 2 because it's the newer one. Consumer mentality is often new = better. Also, if you look at the facilities, citizen 2 does trump citizen 1.
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do you still think citizen 2 trumps citizen in terms of facilities?
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post Jul 6 2017, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-T @ Jul 6 2017, 10:52 AM)
Here u go Bro.
Outstanding facilities -- 2 swimming pool...lol
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thanks for your kind sharing.
most appreciated.
any idea how is the sales so far?
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post Jul 14 2017, 09:45 AM

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it is worth noting that close to 20% of verified owners out of total 711 units have successfully joined the FB owner page.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/CitiZenOKR/?flyingspaghettimonster=bookmarks


and according to the admin, there are many more members pending approval due to their unavailability or reluctance to provide proof of ownership.

20% may not seems a lot but that's still easily more than 100 verified units.
certainly more organised to move things more efficiently.
and economy of scale in bulk purchases.

curtains anyone? kekeke.


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post Sep 7 2017, 09:01 AM

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close to 20% of total units have registered in the FB owner page.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/CitiZenOKR/

with total members fast approaching 200.

when it's VP stage, expect to have whatsapp/telegram sharing among owners for bulk purchases, renovation, leasing, subsales.

the fb page requires strict vetting through by administrators though including snapshots of SPA and some private details.

alternatively one may explore the other FB page that's free for all
https://www.facebook.com/groups/CitiZenCommunity/


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post Oct 4 2017, 09:41 AM

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https://www.facebook.com/BinastraLand/#

citizen fully sold out??
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post Oct 16 2017, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(innsean @ Oct 10 2017, 11:48 PM)
there are 3 units newly release..
RM 760k Gross before rebates, Zero Down with cash back
you know where to find me    wink.gif
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this contradict with their publication of "FULLY SOLD OUT".
if sold out how to have release unit now?

unless it was FULLY BOOKED instead of FULLY SOLD.

kochin
post Jan 2 2018, 09:29 AM

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Citizen is expected to VP by Q1 2018.
More than 150 owners have registered in FB Owner Page.
Chat group also formed.

Now talking about bulk purchases liao for non-furnish unit.

To those who have yet to register, please do so ASAP.

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post Jan 2 2018, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(Jon_123 @ Jan 2 2018, 10:37 AM)
I've Joined the Fb Page. where to join the chat group?
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chat group invite is in one of the post and also in one of the comment section.
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post Apr 11 2018, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(Jitty @ Apr 11 2018, 02:20 PM)
any way to calculate the MOT and MOC?

Does google have someform of calculator for us to calculate easily?
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try this:
http://www.propertypricetag.com/fee-calcul...ASAAEgIgpfD_BwE

refer to stamp duty.
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post Apr 12 2018, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(pf-L33 @ Apr 12 2018, 01:44 AM)
Hi fellow forumers. would like to know if there is any unsold units here in C1, and who to contact... my C2 contact insists that its all sold out. sad.gif thanks.
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buy subsales.
it's gonna vp soon anyway.


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