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SATA CD/DVD ROM, Hoping to have it....
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z3r0717
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Nov 29 2006, 11:47 AM
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wa... using sata cable now? hmm.. nice.. only MSI has tis type of product now? really hassle free
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DaRkSyThE
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Nov 29 2006, 12:01 PM
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Look at all my stars!!
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aiyak MSi arh. why not plextor?
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TSstorm721984
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Nov 29 2006, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ Nov 29 2006, 12:01 PM) aiyak MSi arh. why not plextor? Somehow i only see MSI produce this type of ROM i still can't find any other brand and sadly its only a combo drive... I would prefer if they manage to manufacture DVD burner using SATA cable
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Vervain
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Nov 29 2006, 12:28 PM
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i think its not pratical to do so a even today burning speed has yet to reach to its max capability. i've tried ide to sata convertor on a dvd rom. sadly it wont detect
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DaRkSyThE
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Nov 29 2006, 12:45 PM
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Look at all my stars!!
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QUOTE(storm721984 @ Nov 29 2006, 12:15 PM) Somehow i only see MSI produce this type of ROM i still can't find any other brand and sadly its only a combo drive... I would prefer if they manage to manufacture DVD burner using SATA cable aiks dude, i remember last time plextor introduced one. havent seen it in Malaysia, but i know its very expensive to get in the USA. here are some pictures   taken from : http://www.plextor.com/english/products/716SA.htm
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moskau12
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Nov 29 2006, 01:37 PM
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Getting Started

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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ Nov 29 2006, 12:45 PM) aiks dude, i remember last time plextor introduced one. havent seen it in Malaysia, but i know its very expensive to get in the USA. here are some pictures   taken from : http://www.plextor.com/english/products/716SA.htmI already using SATA for my DVD Rom.. HEHEHEHE..
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TSstorm721984
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Nov 29 2006, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ Nov 29 2006, 12:45 PM) aiks dude, i remember last time plextor introduced one. havent seen it in Malaysia, but i know its very expensive to get in the USA. here are some pictures   taken from : http://www.plextor.com/english/products/716SA.htmohhh cool~ Guess MSI is not the only one in the market QUOTE(moskau12 @ Nov 29 2006, 01:37 PM) I already using SATA for my DVD Rom.. HEHEHEHE.. What brand? Where and which shop you got it?
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E-J@1
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Nov 29 2006, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(storm721984 @ Nov 29 2006, 12:15 PM) Somehow i only see MSI produce this type of ROM i still can't find any other brand and sadly its only a combo drive... I would prefer if they manage to manufacture DVD burner using SATA cable well, i found two dvd-burner model with sata interface, both from Samsung, one of the model has lightscribe tech: Samsung SH-S183L Link [attachmentid=160420] Samsung SH-S183A Link [attachmentid=160421] This post has been edited by E-J@1: Nov 29 2006, 03:20 PM
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E-J@1
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Nov 29 2006, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(Vervain @ Nov 29 2006, 12:28 PM) i think its not pratical to do so a even today burning speed has yet to reach to its max capability. i've tried ide to sata convertor on a dvd rom. sadly it wont detect wah  u also using a ide-sata converter too, what brand? i'm using gigabyte converter  about the max capability, ur right but there is a pci card made by gigabyte to burst the transfer rate for ide & sata, called Gigabyte i-RAM Link this card allows the ide & sata device to have it's own memory & doesn't allocates certain memory like mobo, here are some shots:   Here the result: For HDD For ODDDidn't found one but sure fast than the old one Here's the review linkThis post has been edited by E-J@1: Nov 29 2006, 03:37 PM
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TSstorm721984
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Nov 29 2006, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Nov 29 2006, 03:15 PM) well, i found two dvd-burner model with sata interface, both from Samsung, one of the model has lightscribe tech: Samsung SH-S183L » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Link [attachmentid=160420] Samsung SH-S183A Link [attachmentid=160421] That is cool~ but i'm wondering where can i get this burner. Did visit around LYP but no luck in find one....
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E-J@1
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Nov 29 2006, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(storm721984 @ Nov 29 2006, 03:34 PM) That is cool~ but i'm wondering where can i get this burner. Did visit around LYP but no luck in find one.... dunno where can get it, all i know that the two model are for u.s only, ask someone to do a bulk on it then  or u can buy the ide-sata converter
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DaRkSyThE
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Nov 29 2006, 04:59 PM
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Look at all my stars!!
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alrite guys, this is the best question of the thread. what is this topic doing in this section? should be in the hadware section
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PowerSlide
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Nov 29 2006, 05:03 PM
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there are few brands too on sale@newegg for ages d..but we here not popular so nobody bring in
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Skylinestar
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Nov 29 2006, 06:08 PM
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the MSI drive was introduced long time ago. it was reviewed in HWM too. but they say got problem with the i865 chipset. but i'm not sure whether MSI has firmware that fixes this issue.
does that mean IDE-PATA will still live for a long time? even the latest nforce 680 mobo has IDE port. maybe when windows vista is out for 5 years already, that big fat PATA cable is still there for the optical drive.
slim cable is always a good thing. i hope mobo makers can discuss with optical drive company to ditch the PATA standard.
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E-J@1
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Nov 29 2006, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Nov 29 2006, 06:08 PM) the MSI drive was introduced long time ago. it was reviewed in HWM too. but they say got problem with the i865 chipset. but i'm not sure whether MSI has firmware that fixes this issue. does that mean IDE-PATA will still live for a long time? even the latest nforce 680 mobo has IDE port. maybe when windows vista is out for 5 years already, that big fat PATA cable is still there for the optical drive. slim cable is always a good thing. i hope mobo makers can discuss with optical drive company to ditch the PATA standard. hope so, but if all ODD interface change to SATA then we got another problem, SATA port are placed bottom of the mobo while we most likely to place the ODD on the most top bay! giving problem especially for those who using full tower casing
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lolhalol
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Nov 29 2006, 06:46 PM
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dude, sata technology for dvd burning has been around for along time already, almost the same time sata hdds came out... just that it wasn't popular because of its extremely high price at first(expect a price of 4 digits), now even thoghthe price has been reduced but it is still high, for example the some plextor models cost around 200USD, bout 700 rm, u can get 3 dvd burners for that price. other companies have also made attempt at it but never successful, like the Samsung WriteMaster SH-W163(review here.-http://www.pcpro.co.uk/custompc/labs/91047/samsung-writemaster-shw163.html) at 30 pounds-roughly 210 rm...without shipping, and the Plextor PX-755SA (review here.-http://www.pcpro.co.uk/custompc/labs/91040/plextor-px755sa.html) at 70 pounds-roughly 500rm.....
even lite on has one, check the ppcs dvddrive section for more sata dvd burners...
but because of its high price currently it cant be bought by the mainstream which is the major market..only modders and high end users can buy it, also now most people already have a dvd burner and tho them it is more than enough to their needs, so they do not c the point in upgrading. same story with the malaysian importers and distros, they don't c the market is big enough but im sure if u contacted them they will willing put an order out for you, but remember the downside is the MOQ...
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ianho
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Nov 29 2006, 06:55 PM
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Cucimangkoklife
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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Nov 29 2006, 03:22 PM) wah  u also using a ide-sata converter too, what brand? i'm using gigabyte converter  about the max capability, ur right but there is a pci card made by gigabyte to burst the transfer rate for ide & sata, called Gigabyte i-RAM Linkthis card allows the ide & sata device to have it's own memory & doesn't allocates certain memory like mobo, here are some shots: Here the result: For HDDFor ODDDidn't found one but sure fast than the old one Here's the review link  The Gigabyte i-RAM has got nothing to do with making ure SATA n IDE devices run faster lar. Aiyoooooooooooo. It's function is like a solid state HDD. Coz it's using RAM it's super fast. Even faster than a Raptor HDD.
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Skylinestar
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Nov 29 2006, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE(lolhalol @ Nov 29 2006, 06:46 PM) dude, sata technology for dvd burning has been around for along time already, almost the same time sata hdds came out... just that it wasn't popular because of its extremely high price at first(expect a price of 4 digits), now even thoghthe price has been reduced but it is still high, for example the some plextor models cost around 200USD, bout 700 rm, u can get 3 dvd burners for that price. other companies have also made attempt at it but never successful, like the Samsung WriteMaster SH-W163(review here.-http://www.pcpro.co.uk/custompc/labs/91047/samsung-writemaster-shw163.html) at 30 pounds-roughly 210 rm...without shipping, and the Plextor PX-755SA (review here.-http://www.pcpro.co.uk/custompc/labs/91040/plextor-px755sa.html) at 70 pounds-roughly 500rm..... even lite on has one, check the ppcs dvddrive section for more sata dvd burners... but because of its high price currently it cant be bought by the mainstream which is the major market..only modders and high end users can buy it, also now most people already have a dvd burner and tho them it is more than enough to their needs, so they do not c the point in upgrading. same story with the malaysian importers and distros, they don't c the market is big enough but im sure if u contacted them they will willing put an order out for you, but remember the downside is the MOQ... sata can be so cheap on hdd. why not odd?
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E-J@1
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Nov 29 2006, 08:48 PM
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Nov 29 2006, 08:43 PM) sata can be so cheap on hdd. why not odd? this thread should be move to Hardware Section, don't u all think so
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TSstorm721984
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Nov 30 2006, 01:10 AM
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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Nov 29 2006, 08:48 PM) this thread should be move to Hardware Section, don't u all think so  Well my idea to post on this part is mostly focus on modding as having a SATA ROM will be able to have more better cable management... Never expected the discussion could go this far
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dblooi
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Nov 30 2006, 09:21 PM
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deric88
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Nov 30 2006, 09:37 PM
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SAY NO TO UGLY IDE OR HUGE ROUND CABLE
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TSstorm721984
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Dec 1 2006, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(deric88 @ Nov 30 2006, 09:37 PM) SAY NO TO UGLY IDE OR HUGE ROUND CABLE totally agree with you man
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Skylinestar
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Dec 1 2006, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(deric88 @ Nov 30 2006, 09:37 PM) SAY NO TO UGLY IDE OR HUGE ROUND CABLE ya. can protest!
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rayfoo
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Dec 1 2006, 07:34 PM
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sata dvd writer is out panasonic brand saw at pc fair below RM200!
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DiCalto
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Dec 1 2006, 07:43 PM
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izzit? which shop selling it... todae when pc fair dint notice it...
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rayfoo
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Dec 1 2006, 07:45 PM
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panasonic booth QUOTE(DiCalto @ Dec 1 2006, 07:43 PM) izzit? which shop selling it... todae when pc fair dint notice it... 
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Skylinestar
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Dec 1 2006, 08:19 PM
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got samsung?
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coolmast3r
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Dec 2 2006, 12:59 AM
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QUOTE(rayfoo @ Dec 1 2006, 07:34 PM) sata dvd writer is out panasonic brand saw at pc fair below RM200! price under rm200? huhu..what color available?black ada ka? hehe..see what's in my mind?
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TSstorm721984
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Dec 2 2006, 03:40 AM
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It will be cool to see everything using SATA and say good bye to PATA  If possible anyone can take some photo on their SATA DVD writer then it will be really cool
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afosz
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Dec 2 2006, 08:25 AM
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what mobo using sata odd?is it any good with ide?
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xyngfei
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Dec 4 2006, 11:24 AM
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i also can confirm tat the panasonic got SATA rom already price is around 148.....
try to survey in lowyat again.. i think few week later u can go to grab one for it...
btw i need to mention tat u must have the sata power plug... if not i also not recommend u to buy it
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lolhalol
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Dec 4 2006, 04:10 PM
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wah, finally got a sata dvdrw...later go lyp and c , hmm anywan doiung bulk yet?, bt bear in mind, i cant find review lah.,.. so dunno how it perform, i think so far best bang for buck is the samsung wan, i posted a on page one the link, and performance is great, but i really like the H200n from lg... can read every bloody format(almost) , maybe they will make one sata edition wan... taht would be nice...
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tatayoung
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Dec 4 2006, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ Nov 29 2006, 04:59 PM) alrite guys, this is the best question of the thread. what is this topic doing in this section? should be in the hadware section  Agreed....
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Skylinestar
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Dec 4 2006, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE(lolhalol @ Dec 4 2006, 04:10 PM) wah, finally got a sata dvdrw...later go lyp and c , hmm anywan doiung bulk yet?, bt bear in mind, i cant find review lah.,.. so dunno how it perform, i think so far best bang for buck is the samsung wan, i posted a on page one the link, and performance is great, but i really like the H200n from lg... can read every bloody format(almost) , maybe they will make one sata edition wan... taht would be nice... samsung one available in LYP already? This post has been edited by Skylinestar: Dec 4 2006, 06:08 PM
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TSstorm721984
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Dec 5 2006, 12:25 AM
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@tatayoung as i mention earlier i open up this post with the intention for modding purpose as having a PATA cable is a really troublesome issue when comes to cable management.
I was hoping that the SATA DVD burner could be more easily access in the market since SATA is a common interface
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lolhalol
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Dec 5 2006, 05:22 PM
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@Skylinestar i dun think so bro, but should be coming in preety soon if im not mistaken...co panasonic have already, sure others will want to compete as well...
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sotong168
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Dec 5 2006, 06:13 PM
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any significant advantage over conventional ide writer apart frm more tidiness?
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deric88
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Dec 5 2006, 09:07 PM
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damm it, just got my system with ide drives....
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ianho
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Dec 5 2006, 10:15 PM
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Cucimangkoklife
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Woot! I just saw the Panasonic SATA DVD drive today. It's at All IT. Black color n only rm159. The IDE version is rm155. So it's just a matter of rm4 for the SATA option. Worth every penny for all u modders out there. Say aye to clean wiring with SATA.
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TSstorm721984
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Dec 5 2006, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Dec 5 2006, 10:15 PM) Woot! I just saw the Panasonic SATA DVD drive today. It's at All IT. Black color n only rm159. The IDE version is rm155. So it's just a matter of rm4 for the SATA option. Worth every penny for all u modders out there. Say aye to clean wiring with SATA.  Nice one but is this a DVD ROM or DVD burner if i may ask? any hardware i can get to increase the number of SATA port since my motherboard is only limited to 2 SATA port...
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Skylinestar
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Dec 6 2006, 12:00 AM
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how's the burn quality of these SATA drives? anyone bought one already. very curious. hope by next year, all the drives are SATA.
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ianho
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Dec 6 2006, 12:15 AM
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Cucimangkoklife
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QUOTE(storm721984 @ Dec 5 2006, 10:48 PM) Nice one but is this a DVD ROM or DVD burner if i may ask? any hardware i can get to increase the number of SATA port since my motherboard is only limited to 2 SATA port...  It burns all formats including dual layer DVD. U can always buy a PCI SATA controller card to add more SATA ports.
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TSstorm721984
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Dec 6 2006, 12:56 AM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Dec 6 2006, 12:15 AM) It burns all formats including dual layer DVD. U can always buy a PCI SATA controller card to add more SATA ports. This should be interesting but does it actually bring problem like cable management and how does it actually look like it would be nice to have photo for more detail
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deric88
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Dec 6 2006, 02:07 AM
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everytime i come to this thread makes me wanna hit myself getting my drives so early
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TSstorm721984
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Dec 6 2006, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE(deric88 @ Dec 6 2006, 02:07 AM) everytime i come to this thread makes me wanna hit myself getting my drives so early Well sorry to hear that man but then again u could try getting another drive and the old one u can keep as space in case of emergency or u might sell it to your friends since u just purchase it
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wk1168
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Dec 6 2006, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Dec 5 2006, 10:15 PM) Woot! I just saw the Panasonic SATA DVD drive today. It's at All IT. Black color n only rm159. The IDE version is rm155. So it's just a matter of rm4 for the SATA option. Worth every penny for all u modders out there. Say aye to clean wiring with SATA.  oh my oh my... i wan one as well!!!! say yes to beautiful cable management!!!
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aaron_lwm
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Dec 6 2006, 11:38 AM
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Dang, i think im gonnna upgrad my drives after i upgrade my rams. I need SATA drives, they are so clean.
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TSstorm721984
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Dec 6 2006, 12:01 PM
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Same here but i might need to buy a new MOBO since my motherboard only support 2 SATA port....
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DaRkSyThE
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Dec 6 2006, 01:10 PM
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Look at all my stars!!
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QUOTE(storm721984 @ Dec 6 2006, 12:01 PM) Same here but i might need to buy a new MOBO since my motherboard only support 2 SATA port....  can buy those cards that give u the extra 4 sata ports.
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TSstorm721984
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Dec 6 2006, 01:49 PM
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How much do u think that card that can slot in extra sata port?
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ianho
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Dec 6 2006, 02:43 PM
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Cucimangkoklife
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QUOTE(storm721984 @ Dec 6 2006, 01:49 PM) How much do u think that card that can slot in extra sata port? Cheap oni lar. About 40-50 oni. IIRC.
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TSstorm721984
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Dec 6 2006, 03:21 PM
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That i cheap~ guess i will go to LYP to get it when i'm free Anyway i think it would be wise to wait for Blu-Ray rom to be more widely available in the market as i would assume they need more higher transfer rate to burn. So using SATA for BD ROM is more better but i still not sure with the price of the drive and the disc
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deric88
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Dec 6 2006, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(storm721984 @ Dec 6 2006, 03:21 PM) That i cheap~ guess i will go to LYP to get it when i'm free Anyway i think it would be wise to wait for Blu-Ray rom to be more widely available in the market as i would assume they need more higher transfer rate to burn. So using SATA for BD ROM is more better but i still not sure with the price of the drive and the disc  last week i saw in InTech sony blu ray burner drive , guess the price...... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « RM2200+
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Skylinestar
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Dec 6 2006, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE(storm721984 @ Dec 6 2006, 03:21 PM) That i cheap~ guess i will go to LYP to get it when i'm free Anyway i think it would be wise to wait for Blu-Ray rom to be more widely available in the market as i would assume they need more higher transfer rate to burn. So using SATA for BD ROM is more better but i still not sure with the price of the drive and the disc  i think u have to wait for another 3 years if u want blueray drive to be as cheap as RM100.
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cablesguy
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Dec 6 2006, 06:39 PM
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shit la...just got 2 ide drives...
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DaRkSyThE
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Dec 6 2006, 06:44 PM
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Look at all my stars!!
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QUOTE(deric88 @ Dec 6 2006, 04:09 PM) last week i saw in InTech sony blu ray burner drive , guess the price...... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « RM2200+ aiks. blu ray... the laptop with the blu ray thing inside costs RM 15999 i think
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deric88
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Dec 6 2006, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ Dec 6 2006, 06:44 PM) aiks. blu ray... the laptop with the blu ray thing inside costs RM 15999 i think  it''ll be a stupid thing for consumers to buy it right now, the one who will be buying it most prabally piraters
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TSstorm721984
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Dec 7 2006, 12:19 AM
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Well i'm a anime collector so having a blu ray disc would be nice but still... due to the VERY INTERESTING PRICE i think i better stick to DVD Burner on sata port  Currently i'm still waiting for someone to post their image of their own SATA ROM which will be nice for a very good cable management and goodbye to those big PATA cable~!
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DaRkSyThE
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Dec 7 2006, 11:39 AM
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Look at all my stars!!
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QUOTE(storm721984 @ Dec 7 2006, 12:19 AM) Well i'm a anime collector so having a blu ray disc would be nice but still... due to the VERY INTERESTING PRICE i think i better stick to DVD Burner on sata port  Currently i'm still waiting for someone to post their image of their own SATA ROM which will be nice for a very good cable management and goodbye to those big PATA cable~!  i might pick it up. but based on reviews rite, the burner doesnt look that good yet
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Doom
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Dec 7 2006, 05:10 PM
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In what sense ??? kind to explain ... interested here as my mobo has one IDE header only ... got few SATA 2 port ....
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