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post Dec 4 2006, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 4 2006, 10:04 AM)
now i'm thinking whether i should get DELL 30" or just normal LCD TV like Philips or Sharp (yes, the type you see at HSL).

the DELL has higher resolution, coming at more than 2k pixels for width alone while the normal LCD TVs come at slightly less than 1.4k pixels.
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Well, the TV integrates well into all places, where as the DELL odd resoultion is going to give u headaches. Unless u strictly use the screen for PC use only, which i highly doubt. Most people would prolly look to maximise a 4k gadget, and yah dun forget the dual HDMI too.
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post Dec 8 2006, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(kianwee @ Dec 8 2006, 09:51 AM)
2007WFP manufactured after June 2006 are nothing but pure crap - backlight bleeds, dead pixels poping out from no where, etc. So I guess it's normal. It is not designed that way, remember. I've got 8 units from the first batch of 2007WFPs (April 2006) and besides the banding issue, all the screens are perfect without backlight bleed nor dead pixels.
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Indeed. But still i dun understand y people buy into paper specs. It's the real world performance that counts.
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post Dec 8 2006, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Dec 8 2006, 10:25 PM)
owh~` keeps me worrying now...
now i just knew ... not a small partial of 2007 stocks are defective...
but to whole production from all batches after june????

crap..` i should've go for 2216w`  doh.gif
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Ya, a trouble free monitor is a much worthwhile investment than a less-than-complete-higher-spec monitor.

I mean, no one would like to have dead pixels appearing one after another rite? So does amputated workable space because the corners are bleeding?
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post Dec 12 2006, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(lAh0S @ Dec 10 2006, 04:58 PM)
Aiyo, no need so critical la.
DELL 2007WFP is probably the cheapest ever S-IPS panel available in the market. Problems like backlight bleeding is common in LCD production. I dont find it an annoyance like many did. Dead pixel is another common problem with LCD. Of course when you buy it new, you can ask for free dead pixel. But as you used it, wear n tear will takes its toll and slowly you will start encountering dead pixel. None of the LCD manufacturer guarantee dead pixel free after you start using it. If you got dead pixel pop out of nowhere day after day, then its your luck.

Humans are really greedy. If you want the best and can afford it, just go ahead n buy Apple LCD. They are one of the best, if you can afford the difference in prices. If not, just STFU. Get along with it or go n get a CRT.

* My office has a LCD with 3 dead pixel, and I hardly noticed it. Whats all the big fuss about it.
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None of my LCD's have any defects. Beat that. Back light bleeding and dead pixels are defects, period. It's not about how much money u spend on it, it's what the purchase agreed upon. Perhaps dead pixels are clearly written, but dodgy warranty policies doesnt spell transparency.

Most people that have not dealt with Dell, think highly of their paper policy. In reality it's a different story. Alot of forumers here can tell a tale or two about it. Not that i am against Dell, but purchasers have the right to speak.

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post Dec 15 2006, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Dec 14 2006, 10:27 PM)
guys..`..hmmm ..  2007 aspect ratio..... 
when i play dota at 1024x768...  it stretched till fullscreen >_<
anyway to solve that...?
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Find:

Code:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Blizzard Entertainment\Warcraft III\Video

then
Code:
reswidth = xxxx
and
Code:
resheight = yyyy

change xxxx and yyyy to whatever your screen width and height are (eg: xxxx=1680 yyyy=1050, etc) you can change the cinematic res, too, but I didn't see the point.

Oh, and one final point, the game is stretched.
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post Dec 21 2006, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Dec 21 2006, 12:17 AM)
i have something to ask here.. i'm quiet new in lcd things laugh.gif

does my geforce fx5200 can be used with lcd? especially SAMSUNG SYNCMASTER 940BW?
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Sure u can. U have the right connector, u are asking for full res gaming?
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post Jan 6 2007, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(davidmak @ Jan 5 2007, 09:57 PM)
Contrast ratio is actually the ratio of luminosity of the brightest and the darkest colour a monitor is able to produce. It can be simply explained as how white is white and how black is black as well as other colours. The higher the the contrast ratio, the bigger the difference between them.

When you watch a movie, sometimes you could see the blacks aren't as black but rather greyish and the white isn't that white but rather beige. That is the result of a lower contrast ratio. A good monitor with high enough contrast ratio should display black as in pure black including the different shades of black and also white and its shade accurately.

So YES, get a monitor with the highest contrast ratio your money can buy. Take note that there are two types of measuring contrast ratio that is denoted as dynamic or static. Monitor contrast ratios are usually denoted as static contrast ratio. If I'm not mistaken, LG denotes its contrast ratio as dynamic. That is why its contrast ratio is usually higher than the competitors. This could be a little misleading.

In my opinion, you could put Samsung as a reference so that you could make comparisons better and accurately. You should also take other parameters into consideration when choosing a LCD like panel type, colour reproductions, response time, etc.
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Samsung is similarly guilty with it's DNie engine. Anyway, expecting average LCD's to perform more than 1000:1 is very demanding indeed. Even if the boast the paper specs no one will know. So it's a mistake to judge LCD's on contrast, better go see it for urself. To tell u the truth, my 940BW has the worst contrast among all my LCDs which coincidentally matches the paper spec sheet hmm.gif

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post Jan 7 2007, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(afosz @ Jan 6 2007, 12:45 AM)
940bw that worst arr?my bro using it..i see quite ok as i dont know much about lcd specs..any idea current price for viewsonic vx2025wm?it looks nice
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U wont notice it unless u have a few LCDs around to compare them. Eventhough it's not a very good LCD, but i dun think it's a very bad purchase. Just the right thing for cheap desktop computing.

QUOTE(| e 3 h y 0 r | @ Jan 6 2007, 12:48 AM)
wahh dun scare me, 940BW that bad meh ??? i was planning to get it ..
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If u are the one very picky about quality, i suggest u look elsewhere. Perhaps increase ur budget. I can't recommend any models though as i have cease using my monitors.

QUOTE(davidmak @ Jan 6 2007, 10:30 AM)
Totally agreed. The DNie engine is something like a colour reproduction optimizer which tries to reproduce more natural colours and boost contrast ratio. Sadly this usually adds unwanted components to the reproduction itself like loss of detail and unnatural colours. For a LCD to have a real high contrast ratio, the brightness itself have to be of sufficient number too, so expecting a panel with 300cdm2 to perform more than 1500:1 sounds too good to be true.

I have an old Viewsonic VE710b-2 which have a declared brightness of 300cdm2 but in actual fact it is much brighter compared to other panels to a point of uncomfortable to the eyes. The brightness levels in their respective menu were pushed all the way to maximum but the Viewsonic seems much brighter and the contrast were better. Of course, on regular usage the brightness have to be tuned down to a comfortable level.

So it is best to go see for yourself and make comparisons of your own. Some shops might not have all the models on display so shop around till you see all the models in your consideration.
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Those 'engines' are made to SELL the sets in showroom condition. Even though their SPVA panels are very good, but it's not the obvious reason the buyer would want. Enter the DNie. Obviously the brightest and most saturared color ones will catch the viewer's attention. That is the single reason y the DNIe is so heavenly spec'd.
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post Jan 12 2007, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(viking_ns @ Jan 11 2007, 11:55 AM)
940BW quite bad dari segi apa...?i want to know about...

1. Samsung 19 940BW w/s
2. Samsung 19 940BF
3. LG 194W w/s
4. philips 190G6FB

aiya banyak pening laa....minggu depan mahu beli LCD... help me...
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1st of all, no height adjustment, all LCD's that dun have this feature isnt good to ur backbone ergonomics. Unless of course, ur table itself is height adjustable akin to IKEA's design.

2nd, un-natural color production and horrible contrast. Need not apply is u are not a movie aficionado.
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post Mar 3 2007, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(yuheng @ Mar 1 2007, 08:39 AM)
in term of spec...LG will be better...but in term of reputation....Samsung will be nicer...
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Both also korean brands. Not so reputable for their quality. Japanese brands are far better but also more expensive.

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