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TSkurty
post Oct 5 2015, 02:23 PM, updated 11y ago

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hello,

looking to replace my D2 adjustable, wanted comfort and stability.

Prefer the conventional absorber type, so don't recommend me anymore adjustable.
I'm not driving fast too. around 150-180km/hr

was told to go for Sachs or performax, then pair it with a sport spring like GAB.

I tried APM performax before, was good on normal road etc but when high way, the whole car seems to be flying.

Budget: RM 1K
Ride: perdana evo3
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post Oct 5 2015, 02:30 PM

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Monroe Reflex. Budget up abit but worth the money spent
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post Oct 5 2015, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(Omnipotent @ Oct 5 2015, 02:30 PM)
Monroe Reflex. Budget up abit but worth the money spent
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really good?

comfortable with stability? knows where can I get it?
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post Oct 5 2015, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(kurty @ Oct 5 2015, 02:23 PM)
I'm not driving fast too. around 150-180km/hr
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post Oct 5 2015, 04:25 PM

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try asking maddriver if he still sells his servicable shocks.

EDIT: here is another idea... revalve ur D2 to a comfort level of ur choice. try contacting FTuned racing...they should be able to do it.

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post Oct 5 2015, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Oct 5 2015, 04:25 PM)
try asking maddriver if he still sells his  servicable shocks.

EDIT: here is another idea... revalve ur D2 to a comfort level of ur choice. try contacting FTuned racing...they should be able to do it.
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Maddriver drives a perdana too?

Sorry, what do you mean by revalue the existing adjustable.

Was told that it's already at the softest and each time we are on the normal road.. we are screaming and it's a boat ride.

Adjustable is not for us..

Prefer stock.. Monroe is expensive.. cost Rm240 each, without spring.

I'm actually think of kyb excel g.. basic model and pair it with performax sport spring or gab sport.
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post Oct 5 2015, 06:13 PM

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Get Bilstein.
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post Oct 5 2015, 06:27 PM

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can perdana absorber put in old 2000 ford car??

want to find reliable absorber for my ford, but not to expensive..

any idea??
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post Oct 5 2015, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(kurty @ Oct 5 2015, 05:43 PM)
Maddriver drives a perdana too?

Sorry, what do you mean by revalue the existing adjustable.

Was told that it's already at the softest and each time we are on the normal road.. we are screaming and it's a boat ride.

Adjustable is not for us..

Prefer stock.. Monroe is expensive.. cost Rm240 each, without spring.

I'm actually think of kyb excel g.. basic model and pair it with performax sport spring or gab sport.
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maddriver is a forumer here who owns a workshop....one of the products he sells is a serviceable shock abbsorber.

not revalue... revalVe... meaning tear ur adjustable apart... and put in new gas/oil...depending on amount etc, this can affect ur ride comfort. u can actually make ur adjustable super soft.
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post Oct 5 2015, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(Omnipotent @ Oct 5 2015, 02:30 PM)
Monroe Reflex. Budget up abit but worth the money spent
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This product is famous 10-15 years back.. now still got? i last time a user of Monroe Sensatrac, older model before Reflex, yup its a good product.. really comfort with stock spring, if lowered it sacrifice it comfort.. i did put sport spring with it, end up damaged the absorber..

TS, want comfort with 150-180km/h can try Titan Shock absorber, they have adjustable and conventional absorber.. both can be tune to ur refinement.. serviceable too but quite expensive i can say.. can try maddriver shock for cheaper option..

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post Oct 5 2015, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(kurty @ Oct 5 2015, 05:43 PM)

Prefer stock.. Monroe is expensive.. cost Rm240 each, without spring.

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I'm afraid there won't be options for you. Go back stock kyb gas (i believe yes, excel g)
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post Oct 5 2015, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(amad108 @ Oct 5 2015, 09:06 PM)

TS, want comfort with 150-180km/h can try Titan Shock absorber, they have adjustable and conventional absorber.. both can be tune to ur refinement.
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post Oct 6 2015, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 5 2015, 11:10 PM)
No.
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Details please.. If i got it wrong please enlighten me..
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post Oct 6 2015, 07:40 AM

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Kyb excel g and pair with a sport spring like performax or gab. Is it a good combination?

Or I should just stick to stock sprint.
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post Oct 6 2015, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(amad108 @ Oct 6 2015, 01:22 AM)
Details please.. If i got it wrong please enlighten me..
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titan never comfort, and when they do, they aren't any different than stock absorbers.
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post Oct 6 2015, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(kurty @ Oct 6 2015, 07:40 AM)
Kyb excel g and pair with a sport spring like performax or gab. Is it a good combination?

Or I should just stick to stock sprint.
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stock, or good progressive springs from eibach/H&R (may breach your budget on just springs alone)
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post Oct 6 2015, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 6 2015, 10:23 AM)
titan never comfort, and when they do, they aren't any different than stock absorbers.
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Have u using it? I'm as an ex-user of adjustable absorber, what i can say about it its between comfort n good handling..

Its not too bumpy when high speed at highway (180-210km/h) in my wira last time..
Cornering is very good, while road in shah alam got a lot of 'bonggol' and potholes everywhere.. Still it does a good job absorbing it..
The height i set last time with 195/55/15 is 2 finger at front n 1 finger at rear from tyre to fender/body, serve me really well for almost 5 years before it's need to re-service..
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post Oct 6 2015, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(amad108 @ Oct 6 2015, 11:38 AM)
Have u using it? I'm as an ex-user of adjustable absorber, what i can say about it its between comfort n good handling..

Its not too bumpy when high speed at highway (180-210km/h) in my wira last time..
Cornering is very good, while road in shah alam got a lot of 'bonggol' and potholes everywhere.. Still it does a good job absorbing it..
The height i set last time with 195/55/15 is 2 finger at front n 1 finger at rear from tyre to fender/body, serve me really well for almost 5 years before it's need to re-service..
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inspira bulk'd titan.

and lol fingers, nuff said.
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post Oct 6 2015, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Oct 5 2015, 06:13 PM)
Get Bilstein.
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Bilstein is good, a little stiff though but price wise will get you to think twice as the cost for a set of b6 shocks alone is comparable to a set of adjustable shocks with spring.

This post has been edited by kirakun: Oct 6 2015, 01:20 PM
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post Oct 6 2015, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(kurty @ Oct 6 2015, 08:40 AM)
Kyb excel g and pair with a sport spring like performax or gab. Is it a good combination?

Or I should just stick to stock sprint.
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Im using Kyb excel g with my suzuki swift sport stock spring. No good, a bit bouncy compared with my previous monroe absorber.
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post Oct 6 2015, 03:44 PM

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monroe reflex serve me 6 years now.
my friend say if want cheap find GREBER.
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post Oct 6 2015, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(wira_laju @ Oct 6 2015, 03:44 PM)
monroe reflex serve me 6 years now.
my friend say if want cheap find GREBER.
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Is it cheap & good for Greber?

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post Oct 6 2015, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(kirakun @ Oct 6 2015, 01:17 PM)
Bilstein is good, a little stiff though but price wise will get you to think twice as the cost for a set of b6 shocks alone is comparable to a set of adjustable shocks with spring.
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Not really, depending on which type also. Bilstein makes several types ranging from normal ones to sport ones. If use the normal ones, still pretty comfortable (at least to me) and not that expensive.
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post Oct 6 2015, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Oct 6 2015, 07:16 PM)
Not really, depending on which type also. Bilstein makes several types ranging from normal ones to sport ones. If use the normal ones, still pretty comfortable (at least to me) and not that expensive.
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I'm using b6 shocks from bilstein, bought it from local dealer few years back, still serve me good todate. Paired it with stock springs, for high speed cruising, definitely comfortable however during city drive especially if the road condition is not good, ull feel it obvious. Cost me 2k plus back then so unless the price dropped drastically within these few years time, yeah bilstein shocks are still pretty expensive compared to the rest of standard shocks.
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post Oct 6 2015, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(Kirie @ Oct 6 2015, 07:11 PM)
Is it cheap & good for Greber?
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my friend better than apm & kyb standard..
proride i dont know.this got 3 grade.black(normal),red(heavy duty)&yellow(sport).
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post Oct 6 2015, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(wira_laju @ Oct 6 2015, 08:16 PM)
my friend better than apm & kyb standard..
proride i dont know.this got 3 grade.black(normal),red(heavy duty)&yellow(sport).
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Comfort n handling better?
Any review about Ftuned suspension?
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post Oct 6 2015, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 6 2015, 12:00 PM)
inspira bulk'd titan.

and lol fingers, nuff said.
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hahahaha... can guess his age liao.
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post Oct 7 2015, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 6 2015, 12:00 PM)
inspira bulk'd titan.

and lol fingers, nuff said.
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QUOTE(alexei @ Oct 6 2015, 11:31 PM)
hahahaha... can guess his age liao.
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actually using fingers to gauge or set suspension height, is this sort of like obsolete old school practice or just inexperienced people's way of operating?

either way i guess both of you concur that it isn't the right way to set up and adjust the suspension, because it always baffles me to read that some people do it, it seems amateur and very subjective to use finger width.
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QUOTE(jesserider223 @ Oct 7 2015, 01:47 PM)
actually using fingers to gauge or set suspension height, is this sort of like obsolete old school practice or just inexperienced people's way of operating?

either way i guess both of you concur that it isn't the right way to set up and adjust the suspension, because it always baffles me to read that some people do it, it seems amateur and very subjective to use finger width.
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I found this: https://www.heeltoeauto.com/pitboard/?tag=finger-gap
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post Oct 7 2015, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Oct 7 2015, 02:06 PM)
i see now it's been around for decades, and enthusiasts like you and Quazacolt dont really do this anymore
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post Oct 7 2015, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(jesserider223 @ Oct 7 2015, 01:47 PM)
actually using fingers to gauge or set suspension height, is this sort of like obsolete old school practice or just inexperienced people's way of operating?

either way i guess both of you concur that it isn't the right way to set up and adjust the suspension, because it always baffles me to read that some people do it, it seems amateur and very subjective to use finger width.
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its not so much the method, is more towards how people kept wanting to lower their car thinking it handles better (although id reckon people just think it looks cooler/better without the supposedly ugly fender gap)
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post Oct 8 2015, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 7 2015, 02:31 PM)
its not so much the method, is more towards how people kept wanting to lower their car thinking it handles better (although id reckon people just think it looks cooler/better without the supposedly ugly fender gap)
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does lowering really helps in handling?

I tried sport spring before.. each time when I go back Ipoh and drive through their road and humps..
i'm cursing and swearing..
I had to go 45 degree in order not to scratch the front bumper..

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post Oct 8 2015, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(kurty @ Oct 8 2015, 12:40 PM)
does lowering really helps in handling?

I tried sport spring before.. each time when I go back Ipoh and drive through their road and humps..
i'm cursing and swearing..
I had to go 45 degree in order not to scratch the front bumper..
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Depends.

And don't lower if it's causing problem.
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post Oct 8 2015, 12:56 PM

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What about koni yellow absorber & pair with eibach or h&r sport springs
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post Oct 9 2015, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(BeeDeePee @ Oct 8 2015, 01:41 PM)
What about koni yellow absorber & pair with eibach or h&r sport springs
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A suspension system needs to match its payload, unsprung weight, weight distribution blah blah blah.
It comes in a package of matching springs and absorbers to your car, wheels and driving style.

For your Koni, find out its model and application, compare that against your car. Same with the springs.
Then, hope that they match nicely - nice ride height, no sag with many passengers, no bottom-out or topping, no tyre bounce during hard braking etc.

If need help, post the model numbers here... smile.gif
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post Nov 4 2015, 08:45 AM

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is it true that for turbo engine like evo3, I must stick back to adjustable suspension?

I can't use stock susepension due to the heavy engine weight?
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QUOTE(kurty @ Nov 4 2015, 08:45 AM)
is it true that for turbo engine like evo3, I must stick back to adjustable suspension?

I can't use stock susepension due to the heavy engine weight?
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Personally, unless you have time to maintain the tuning of the shock, else stick with non adjustable, or just with height adjustable. Malaysia's road is just too unforgiving for fully adjustable shocks
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post Nov 4 2015, 10:05 AM

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150-180km/h, not so fast whistling.gif

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post Nov 4 2015, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(kurty @ Nov 4 2015, 08:45 AM)
is it true that for turbo engine like evo3, I must stick back to adjustable suspension?

I can't use stock susepension due to the heavy engine weight?
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you try to guess evo x stock suspension is on adjustable or not.

after so many pages you still cannot understand what we were trying to say?
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post Nov 4 2015, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 4 2015, 03:34 PM)
you try to guess evo x stock suspension is on adjustable or not.

after so many pages you still cannot understand what we were trying to say?
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my apology, as i'm really a noob when comes to this hence I appreciate the kind help rendered.

just want to make sure I got the right thing done before CNY comes.

 

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