My dad used to own esso stations in the 80s... He said even back then fake engine oils were rampant..basically ppl will just collect old ones and go through filtration process and refill into new bottles.. if u own garages and so on u dun even need to worry to seal it properly..jus go into your garage, while walking out just pretend to open the bottle like u broke the seal d, when customer look at the bottle it is genuine bottle that has been used again and again. He advice me dun go to normal under tree workshop a lot are fakes. He said better service centers or he himself still buying from petrol stations..
But I know a lot of ppl are buying from supermarkets are those genuine

yes... used those mobil semi syn bought from tesco (promo price 89.9-99) , no problem at all..

I'm having a hard time understanding what u r trying to say.

Summary a lot of fake engine oils in market , I know coz my dad told me.. So where is the cheapest place to get cheap and genuine engine oils

Based on your dad point of view? Wow

This post has been edited by xemoboyx: Sep 26 2015, 11:04 AM

there are some things that I cant say in public. but yes there are a lot.. one of the biggest recycler of engine oil is a Tan Sri now

Recycle oil are common. In fact, should be done for environmental consideration.

If it is a reputable refinery that does proper job, why not?
If it is a back alley color dye + filtration . no no

Besides, fully synthetic oils are usually refined, processed oil.
mineral oil are usually processed from crude oil

agree...but sadly a lot of it are done illegally, just some filtration no added additive and so on. but the legal way and proper way should be encouraged

Which Tesco, I find alot also above 100

summary - station owner's son trying to promote more people buying engine oil from petrol station, full stop.

Haha..no that was 80s... before the turn of 90s ..was forced by certain policy that favour certain ppl to own stations only...in the end lost the station..cant say here exactlt what happened but was forced to stop business as license more and more difficult due to policy

Yeah Tesco had really cheap engine oil and genuine

now Im tempted to buy from them.. what are the choices they have? thanks bro for the info.

I always buy from Tesco and sometimes Giant.

I only aim for Fully Synthetic ones.

Mostly they sell ( on offer/promotion):

1. Castrol Edge 5w-40 4Litre - Mostly RM149
2. Shell Helix Ultra 5w-40 4Litre- Mostly RM149 sometimes even lower RM129
3. Mobil 1 New Life 0w-40 4Litre- Mostly RM149 but very rare got offer this one
4. Mobil Super 3000 5w-40 5Litre- Recently got offer I bought for RM129 I think .

Got 1 more always offer but I don't buy :

Mobil 1 Peak Life 5w-50 4Litre- Mostly RM 149 but I cannot use because 50 weight engine oil is not meant for normal passenger cars. Too heavy.

This post has been edited by k!nex: Sep 26 2015, 08:40 PM

too bad Im now working in Sandakan..only got Giant here

Understand the policy of garvemen created for their own cronies companies to monopolize the Msia business market.
Sad but true.

Sometimes you need to visit Tesco more frequently, it has offer for few days and the promo is quite cheap.
Castrol 10W-40 (semi synt) 4 liters or Mobil 1 (5 liter) sale around RM89 only.
Tesco at Ampang.
I do buy 2-3 bottles in 1 shot when it cheap. Long run, its save money and time to hunt for the engine oil, but remember to look at engine oil manufacture date. Shelf life for engine oil is about 1 year.

Tesco also often sells Total on promotion, both semi & FS @ 5ltr bottles.
The Mobil 5w50 FS are also suitable for normal cars, just depends on what car. I've used it before and it's fine.

Im using eneos 5-40w. Formulated in japan - so called lar. After use ok ok.

Mechanic says can last 10k km but I doubt. Im alwaya on the road when working. So decided to change after 7000 - 8000km.

Buy FS oil during promotion in Tesco is even much better value for money compared to semi. Semi oil only max discount up to rm40 but FS oil can be as much as rm100-110 discount. More over FS oil can last twice as long as semi, so it save even more than semi.

Oil shelf life can be more than 1yr, if not mistaken even up to 2-3yrs.

Eneos is a good oil, I've used up to 10k km and no problems whatsoever.

i go service centre, use petronas formulated engine oil.

why need to buy at supermarkets ?

my experience Bardahl brand ( its either fake / poor performance ), not up to standard.

Because lowyay here says cheaper

Good to hear you are user too.

I got the oil from work shop. Eneos sell it but at a higher price

HAHA


i would say the right spare parts shop cheaper for the right oil

I bought mine from Jusco 2yrs ago, they were on sale for only rm90+ @ 4 ltr bottle. It was Mitsubishi Oil 5w40 FS made by Eneos.

yes, i use perodua semi synthetic 5w30 from hypermarket. rm85 something, wait for aeon big rm5 voucher give-out day + rebate from credit card (hong leong wise).
but api sl grade, while sc selling sm grade.

4 litre. use on my old altis

Tesco now selling Shell Helix 10-40 at RM89 till 30th Sept

shell FS good or not?

If semi then still quite many selling but if FS then almost none. I saw only once last week in AEON Jusco Setiawangsa where they offer Shell made in US 5w30 FS in 4x1 quart packages.

Those are the days

I got it for almost rm200

Ampang? I bought mine 3week ago 128 in Foreman shop

Regular price for the Mitsu Eneos oil is just rm129 at AEON Jusco.
Rm200 is very expensive, unless you bought some ester based Eneos oil.

Service at Eneos. Use their EO should be safe from fake oil.
So far so good. Everything in 110-120 for semi syn.

Eneos sell over rm200

This post has been edited by bananabread: Sep 28 2015, 11:20 PM

That's actually very similar to the Mitsubishi Eneos oil I bought, exactly the same viscosity and API grade and same bottle shape, just different label and bottle color. That's why I never want to buy oil at normal workshops anymore.

Can get full synth oil at that price.

How about castrol ?

FS oil really that price? I have no idea...

Seldom use Castrol because also not often on promotion, but sometimes got promo in Tesco.
FS oil actually got a few grades. The higher end ones like Motul, HKS, Amsoil, Liqui Moly etc2 are all >rm200. Then there are the normal ones which can be <rm150 when on promotion (but their normal prices are also >rm200). Eneos also makes higher end and normal ones. For me, driving just normal cars, I don't see the need to spend money using such expensive oils when I can get still good enough quality trusted oils at much cheaper prices in those supermarkets. Of course if you ask those shops where you bought the oils at normal/expensive prices, they'd say the oils in the supermarkets are fake la, low quality la, not suitable for Malaysia spec/climate la, etc2 typical whatever bullshit coz they just cannot sell at such low prices. Unfortunately some consumers do believe those BS and hence keep throwing money away at those shops.

Thanks for details.

I used to buy from tesco n jusco. For convenience sake, now mostly get from workshops. Sometimes I asked them to check this check that and only pay for service car labor feeling paiseh also, so many mechanics jz to check my car.

Sometime let me cut queue n service my car priority. In return, jz buy their oil to support.

Now I know how much they earn surviving tactics bro.

With labor charge. Oil filter etc all in. I think ok la.
Btw semi I also change at 5k km. usually 4plus change adyy

Engine oil is best bought at hypermarket (eg. Tesco). They have promotion from time to time, very cheap.

This post has been edited by SouzaDE: Sep 29 2015, 12:17 AM

But if you really calculate, using FS oils bought at promo prices will still be much cheaper.
Let's take my latest example here:
Bought a few mths ago Mobil 3000 5w40 FS oil @rm119 for 5 ltr bottle or rm95.20 if convert to 4tlr volume
Filter cost was rm25, also bought on my own.
Labor cost was rm20 at the nearest workshop at my place.
So total was only rm140.20 but can last 10k km which is only rm70.10 for 5k km. So compared to your cost of rm110 all in for 5k km, your spending is still 57% more expensive than mine.

thanks bro, learned something new today.

Petrol stations can't do anything on the pricing of their engine oils, its the RRP from the manufacturers themselves.

That's why I never buy at petrol stations also.

THis exact thing I bought from our forumer "gagak" for around RM150~ only. Good oil though.
For myself, I will see which one on offer then buy which one. However, if Castrol , Mobil and Shell on offer, then my first choice to last choice for full synthetic is:

1. Castrol Edge 5w-40
2. Mobil New Life 0w-40
3. Shell Helix Ultra 5w-40
4. Mobil Super 3000 5w-40

In terms of durability, I found Castrol Edge oil is more durable .

I've been buying engine oil from Hypermarket.

Previously Shell Semi was at RM 89
and Shell FS is RM 139

I stock up due to promotion

I used to for Lim Tyre and they charged me RM 130 + for semi oil which cost RM 89 in Tesco
Don't jump to conclusion that I'm not letting them to earn but they also charged Labour Cost seperately on bills.

then Oil filter is RM 25 which I got it for RM 12 for the same one but buying in 10 pcs.
Bulk purchase.

Is a lot of savings at the moments that can be consider.

Just my 2 cents that I :
Started changing my own oil, save up to RM 50 each time...
The economy is so bad that I have to DIY a lot of things.

That's the spirit!

Please discard of the used oil properly. Don't just pour it into the drain.

I pass it back to the workshops, no worries

Why would they take in free

buy at petrol station, surely it's genuine

Because they sell back the oil.

I buy my own engine oil and filter. For Honda city. Rm80 for genuine Honda semi and rm15 for genuine Honda filter. Buy from the shop where most workshops around get their supplies from.
But I'm okay with paying the labour rm15 at workshop, as its hassle free and wanna give biz to ppl also LA.

Why some say even these supply shops might not be genuine

Too much to worry lor. I feel its okay la. Unless I heard rumours that particular shop sell fake stuff then baru switch lor.

Well, engine oils outside malaysia is pretty affordable.. so there is no surprise that synthetic oils are sold cheap at hypermarkets coz mostly imported.

For fully syn, mobil 3000 is the best deal dirt cheap for 5 litre.. but this is the mid tier grade from mobil. Castrol edge is better but rarely got special discount. Total mc3 also ok but again this is not not high grade fully syn oil.

Hmm, Just my 2 cents concern, is the RM 15 filter from UMW ? or Honda logo ?

A recon oil filter due to their poor filter system may damage your engine for long term, even honda cost getting a bulks of 100 pcs will cost them RM 15.

Better be assured than regret. I only choose UMW oil filter or from Honda service centre

Well I have been buying original toyota filter from my trusted spare part shop. Prelubed with plastic cover inside the red box. RM17 only.
It feels and looks genuine but I did not cut it open. Too much of a hassle.

i tot UMW supply for toyota? its with honda logo.saying genuine. but genuine or not, i'll never know.
i choose to believe though

I routinely service my car in one of the Shell Station in USJ.
when I ask for original oil filter, he will go to a box, inside a lot of Toyota labelled oil filters, charge me RM 25, how to know original or not. Can he sell fake ones.

There's a difference between fake and compatibles. Fakes are presumed as near copy of the original (packaging & product look) and may not be up to standards, compatibles or manufactured by 3rd party or OEM manufacturer, deemed as compatible for use. I'm assuming its a compatible product. There's numerous "compatible" air filters in the market for a long time and often priced lower than original. As for compatible air filters, most are generally acceptable but for oil filters, no telling how reliable. Its all sealed in a metal can, no clues of the internal construction.

This post has been edited by bsl555: Nov 12 2015, 01:10 PM

It comes with toyota logo..fake ? I was hoping it is teal toyota..he claims so..

OK..maybe so. I too am so wary of "fakes" in the market. Cannot trust too much these days, unless buy direct from service center.
There was news of Toyota coolant fakes too. I use this Toyota coolant exclusively in my car and have seen some website describing the difference of fake and original.
If I'm not mistaken Perodua also use a locally manufactured coolant that's green in color and sanction it as original. When the car was new it was filled with Toyota Long Life coolant. The Toyota coolant is really long life, I replace it once in 3 years...NO sign of any corrosion or rust. I doubt very much the "green type" can equal its performance.

This post has been edited by bsl555: Nov 12 2015, 02:01 PM

Do u know how to see a real toyota oil filter..such as hologram owat..i do a spot check n see..

Maybe other owners are familiar. Its sometimes the poor quality print, the box quality is not to premium quality. These are give away clues.
On another note, just like I visited Shenzhen last year, saw loads and loads of Kingston memory devices there. Difficult to tell what is fake or true or mostly for China market. My conclusion, I'm better off buying in Malaysia when I'm sure most reputable stores here will retail authorised merchandise and proper warranty. I hope car parts will be properly regulated, any compatibles are to be made known clearly to customer. Any liability is to customer when all is made known and clear. However, regulation doesn't solve the problem of cheating mechanics who fill/replace with something else and insist it's original stuff. That is blatant CHEATING!

This post has been edited by bsl555: Nov 12 2015, 05:51 PM

hypermarket dont sell HDEO?.

If you have the chance, buy fully syn oil instead of semi syn.

from what i read, most people look at the immediate price and not the durability of the oil.

Semi syn u change every 5k or 6k....and with a filter...however fully syn, you change 10k-12k..with the same filter..so effectively...u will spend more for semi syn than fully syn

Exactly! That's what I've mentioned also sometime earlier somewhere. It's not just due to the filter and labor cost but the cost/km for the oil by itself is also can be cheaper by using FS provided that you buy the FS oil at huge discounts like in Tesco/AEON.

yeap thats what i do too...but i typically change my filter over a span of 15k km twise so i strech it further

fully sys can last 15k-20k ( depending what car you drive). I drive a diesel, its hotter but it also rev's lesser than a petrol to reach optimum speed so i typically change mine at 15k with filter change every 7.5k km interval.

been doing that for 6 years now and car still runs like a charm

what if super low mileage cars...full synthetic to reach 10k will be 3-4 years

For me I follow the recommended OIC which is 10k kms for my car because the oil filter is only recommended up to that distance which is still perfectly fine paired with FS oils. Further more I often drive a bit fast and hit max rev so 10k kms is reasonable. I don't want to waste time and money just changing filter only.

Yup, still should be fine as long as the car still regularly driven even at short distances, or driven at least like once or twice a week.