Copy and paste from V3.

Hope to get some feedback here...

May I know any reason U had to replace the timing chain? 70k KM seems too low for the timing chain.

Fuel additice AKA carbon remover? Do the service adviser get any deposit by promoting that?

Human error?

Dear 408 Turbo owners, can I check with you guys, when driving at 180km/h or 200km/h, what is the engine speed on "D" and 6th on manual mode?

This post has been edited by J1@l_ l_l l\l: Oct 23 2015, 02:36 PM

At 1.42 tonne, the 408 Turbo I think is one of the heaviest in it's category.

For a vehicle having such output, the acceleration is not very impressive probably due to it's weight and the efficiency of the transmission.

The engine itself actually has higher output than the 1.4 TSI 160 engine that we have locally, but sadly, the transmission has taken away some of the output from the engine.

I kinda believe that the compound made the tire is what determines the price of the tire itself besides the dimension, hence the cheaper price despite the same dimension.

May I suggest to check the manufacturing date of the tire? Generally, tire manufactured earlier would be sold cheaper than the one which is manufactured later. Tire manufactured year 2014 would be cheaper than tire manufactured 2015. That's what I noticed, I could be wrong.

Well then, I think the RM100 of difference is significant.

Yeah, I think you're right on the cabin space, and I was surprised by the huge trunk space. And in fact, both me and the another test driver have tested both the Jetta and the 408 Turbo, she dislikes the Jetta due to the cabin layout and comfortability level and she prefer the 408 Turbo the most over other models.

With regards to handling, you are absolutely right that the 408 Turbo's handling is better, no doubt, can't deny it.

Straight line driving dynamic is being held back by it's own weight and the transmission I believe.

I don't mind the tranny, but imagine the weight is even heavier than the latest 508 THP. Power is needed to create the momentum

I believe both the factor of vehicle weight and the efficiency of the transmission are what resulting the not so impressive fuel consumption and it's straight line dynamic.

And the half hearted right hand drive vehicle is another thing, look at the glove box, the bonnet release level, the orientation of the hand brake lever, you will know what I'm referring to.

Both Jetta and the 408 don't have projector and xenon headlight too, what a disappointment.

This post has been edited by J1@l_ l_l l\l: Nov 9 2015, 03:22 PM

3 years of factory warranty is already better than the 2 years factory warranty.

Btw, I'm fan of Mobil 1 myself too.

1.41 tonne VS 1.42 tonne for the 508 THP and 408 Turbo respectively and I believe the EMP2 platform plays a huge role in the weight reduction. I don't think the current 408 Turbo is on EMP2 platform but do enlighten me if you know more about this.

Lol, I learnt these from my mentor, which I think is you. I don't think I'm a technical guy like you, I learn new things everyday .

I have never tried 220km/h on the Turbo. What I know is at 4,250rpm, at 6th gear (locked up), the vehicle speed is about 178km/h.

According to the figure claimed by the manufacturer, the top speed is 215km/h although I don't know if it's a limited speed. If you can go 220km/h, the engine speed should be around 5,250r.p.m. and the the ECM is not limiting the vehicle speed.

This post has been edited by J1@l_ l_l l\l: Nov 25 2015, 01:44 PM

If you put the vehicle on the dynamometer, I think you should be able to see the torque yields between 4k to 4.5k rpm. Red line is at 6k rpm, if the max torque remains flat up to 6k, depending on the trend of the torque drops, the max hp should be between 7k to 8k rpm but the fact is max hp occurs at around 6k rpm.

Sir, how can you discriminate female in the automotive industry? We're 15 years after millennium dy.

Your statement above has accurately described the power band and torque band of 408 Turbo's engine. My above statement was based on the assumption if the engine's torque remains flat all the way to maximum rpm which I think is very unlikely.

Do you still have your dynamometer test report with you? Mine to share with us?

Many thanks for sharing the dyno report, this would be a useful reference among 408 Turbo owners.

May I know did they perform the run with the transmission in D mode or manual mode (which gear)?

This post has been edited by J1@l_ l_l l\l: Nov 13 2015, 12:26 PM

OK Sir, edited as per Ur advice.

It certainly is very helpful and don't mind the confusion.

I hope your 408 Turbo has been performing great.

Have you had any issue with the fuel pump, timing chain, air-conditioner compressor, or engine coolant temperature sensor?