I wan to complaint about Barry0510.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=370615&hl=

He asked me not to nego the price, coz selling cheap....everything is in the package...just need to buy monitor and HDD. So i went to search for HDD and monitor. I accept his price and ask him where to COD. Since both of us and the items are in SG, we agreed to do COD at Sg Bueno Vista MRT. But this morning, when i sms him for futher details, he didn't reply me. I sent him 2 sms, but no reply too.

Then i check his thread, and there he was, negotiating wif others....so i pm him. And he reply saying tat someone give higher price, and i'll get the items if that guy FFK.

I felt cheated....coz i already agree to buy monitor and HDD wif other ppl liao...if he FFK me, then how i answer to the others?
Why he didn't reply my sms, but come here to find other buyers???!! If i didn't kacao his thread, is it that he will just ignore me like tat?

Then i post in his thread saying wat he does is wrong....then he sms says he is sorry and stuff.....and said he already receive the other party's cash!! ask me not to ruin his reputation and post in the thread.....so, i replied him 3 sms, asking him to honour our agreement ....but he didn't wanna reply until now. So here i am....

All i hope is tat he could stop the deal wif the other guy and deliver his promise to me. That's all. Since the item not yet delivered...he still can refund the money. And i think that would be fair to me.

this kind of case happened alot in lowyat..FFK and so on..dont feel cheated ..most of the seller reply u with ,"i got higher offer wor" means they wan to jack up the price so that u might consider to counteroffer ..

is normal cases happening in LYN...
for me will do it so... but i do it in appropriate way... at least i made T&C clearly before deal...

once i deal with buyer, will ask for 1 week allowance if buyer agreed... if any1 offered higher price, i will cancel the deal and sell to other buyer... if within 1 week not 1 offer higher price, will sell the unit as promised...

the seller's attitude made u piss off, get nothing when COD, i can understand tat... perhaps the seller dont know ur feeling if FFK...

This post has been edited by gkl83: Nov 23 2006, 06:00 PM

did the seller mentioned that "Item reserved to u?"

there isn't any T&C ma....
and he said he consider my offer first becoz i can COD...
so i accept his offer without nego le....
if got bidding then better....i langsung no chance to know wat is happening...
and the thing already sold....

he sure won't understand my feeling ma....say sorry or watever...
coz he untung more ma....i'm the one who rugi le.....
and now i promised to buy monitor and hdd wif others.....cham lo....
i became the one who FFK pulak!!....

wat makes me angry is he ignore all my sms....until i try to kacao his thread...
then only he answer me.....
but now still no answer yet....

did you asked him to reserve the item for you and did he mentioned that he'll reserve it to you?

y need to reserve the item when already arange to COD??

Price agreed.
COD agreed.

everything confirm the sales...still need to reserve?!?!

reserve is b4 u comfirm the sales ma....

once u've confirm the deal, u should ask the seller to reserve the item for you pending COD

if a seller reserved the item for you means he wont be selling to other ppl til COD with you

You reserve an item after you have confirm to buy, not before you confirm you want to buy

This post has been edited by vikingw2k: Nov 23 2006, 06:34 PM

well, in my case i don't think that would have help.

in this case u mean ppl are more prone to FFK when they confirm and less when they reserve??

anyway confirm/reserve is really not nessesary if both party already commited to settle the deal rite?

franky speaking, i think you should let this go and move on since greedy is always the nature of human beings. besides that, there is nothing you can do other than complaining in this thread. this is a forum and not a commercial website where there is an enforcer to prevent this kind of things happen. i knew how you felt after being FFK and be sidelined by the seller. but this kind of thing happen everywhere especially internet business where you cant see the face of the seller. just chill out and be more careful on future deal. just my 2 cents.

p.s. there is alot of dishonest and no honour people in our society. live with it.

he means like this...
negotiate -> reserve -> deal(confirmed) -> COD -> cash and carry...

since tat seller can do COD, which means confirmed will sell to buyer, not necessary to reserve... can say tat it was a fast deal...

If possible paste out the conversation between you and the seller

thanks for tat....u made me feel better

i also wanna move on ma....but he FFK makes me gonna FFK 2 other person....
he didn't rugi i rugi...sigh....
well, since he don wan his reputation & honour then i can't do anything at all....i can only make others aware of him...too bad didn't know who hijack the deal!
Hope that he learns something from this and don't sia suey m'sian name in SG!

viking means nego->confirm->reserve->COD
which i don't think is the correct way.

what i meant was both of you nego, and once you confirm you can deal with him you ask him to reserve, and seller will consider, once he agreed to reserve for you he'll notify you, den only both COD

This post has been edited by vikingw2k: Nov 23 2006, 07:00 PM

IF u can show a screencap of a PM or a digi pic of the SMS he sent to u saying he is going to COD with u at a date it could make ur compliant more stronger.

........
wat r u talking man

i always buy things in reservation tat i haven comfirm to get it o not
i ask seller to reserve
then the seller will wait for my comfirm

then i comfirm, then the next will b COD

same case
no need to reserve once is already comfirm the deal
y need to reserve when u even comfirm to COD?

1 thing b4 u trying to confirm a purchase from a seller..always leave a small amount of deposit to ensure that item is urs...if he tend to increase the price,means the seller wrong..i always book item with a small amount of depost so that he wont sell the item to others if i need some time to COD with him...

hello yihyan, this kind of person, i hope u can get out from lowyat,
i stay lowyat so long and never saw this kind of people...
yup, i admit we have nego with the price, i also said dun nego with me.
when when i pm you u really want or not but u never reply.
at night, someone pm me said willing to offer me higher price and bank in to me immediate, if u are seller, what will you do??
tomorrow i going to prove to elite what u have sms me and let all the people see how rude you are!!!!!

I just want to say, i never cheat people!!!
i also never never mention that "item was reserved for yihyan"!!!
i just ask him where can cod in singapore only, and he never reply me!
if you are the seller, within the waiting time someone offer much much more higher than you, will you sell to him??

conclusion, i really felt luck that i didint sell this nice and cheap rid to this person "yihyan", after i said item reserved for someone,
he keep going sms me with "dirty" words and try to irritating me.
u you people saw his sms, u really angry.. below is one of the sms.

A raindrop may look small to the eyes,
but some where a thirsty flower awaits its fall.
An sms may seen small to you,
but somewhere a heart remembers u!
Take Care!!!!!!!!


this kind of msg can i accept??
dont think so...

This post has been edited by Barry0510: Nov 23 2006, 11:11 PM

and the Engineering sample is when i dismiss my pc part, take out the cpu fan, then i just realise mine one is Engineering sample, then i got inform to my buyer that this is engineering sample, do you want it?
he said ok, then we just close our deal!

i think since 2003 i joined this forum. i never get complaint.
all of my deal is the fast deal and clean...
cos my friend working in AMD factory, so i go ta lot of kang tao to get engineering sample. i think i sell the engineering sample here more than 4 or 5 units, no people complaint me before.

cooldown dude..if u know u werent wrong, why do u need to post 3 replies like quoted above?
im not taking any sides here, but it looks like u defending urself too much..or maybe u afraid TS will ruin ur reputation?
refer back to ur last 2 posts, TS never stated/complaint anything bout ur engineering sample proc rite? he juz complaining of u ffk-ed him..so why do u need to be afraid and even inform bout that?

Barry0510:
is it u agreed to yihyan COD at Sg Bueno Vista MRT?

yihyan:
post some screenshots tat Barry0510 said he agreed if u have... u sent him pm but he not reply, cant said tat he agreed to COD... A picture talk A thousand words...

So now u say ppl pm u?? who is lying??i manage to contact the hijacker...and this is wat he reply.

and FYI all my SMS is clean and i don't type any dirty word in it! Don't simply accuse me. Being polite/rude doesn't reflect who is right or wrong.

Now he is saying that he ask me where to COD?? it was me who ask and then i say i'm staying near lavender....he said cod at his place one....wth? i no reply??

and in his thread, i'm not the only one who complain la.....judge urself.

i also got trade wif ppl ma....but nvr kena FFK before...don't tell me how long u have been a member here la....doesn't help ur case...

angryflames Re:barton xp, Yesterday, 07:59 PM

Yo Bro,

Actually I didnt hijack it.

I just posted Rm 320 for the 2 products and
later he msg-ed/pm-ed me. After that we sms-ed
and the deal was done. Thats about it.

I really didnt know there was a deal already.
After reading your pm n the forum again did i find out.
Sorry for the inconvenience but your problem is with the
seller.

Put screenshots of the sms n pms.

i second that... screenshots for any sms(s) and pm(s) which involved for the deal, not matter clean or dirty...

This post has been edited by gkl83: Nov 24 2006, 11:04 AM

this is because he look like trying to say i cheat him in my thread...


yihyan Yesterday, 05:12 PM

and now it is stated engineering sample for the proc....
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=370615&st=20
#36

i not really want to explain so much,
i have no pm history, i dun think i need prove something cos i never cheat people money, just treat i'm the seller and i have my right for selling to the person i want.
now most important is i didnt say "item reverved for xxxxx"

now my deal was closed, but if buyer ffk me, then i will sell to another person just beside yihyan, i dont think ineed sell the cheap rig to this kind person as he sms insult me "hope the extra money you get will really feels better"

There was a quote by yihyan in Barry0510's sales thread of their PMs.
I just came accross that accidentally and i did not see any part where the seller had agreed on COD.(except if he did so through sms) As quoted there, buyer ask seller where is he available to COD and seller jz specified the location. There was no done deal yet.(again, except if barry0510 did say something like, OK, we do COD on a certain date for the stuff through sms or any unquoted pms)...

Yihyan and Barry0510, hope u'll update us with more info so we can help resolve this better.

Dear all,

Sorry for being MIA for a few days...was bz preparing for my exams..and don't really need this to ruin my mood...

Hereby I wish to close this thread(and case). As I do not see any benefits for continuing this....I will not gain anything and so does the accused. So I might just close it, as not to waste everyone's time.
I'm here in LYN to make friends and trade. Not to create trouble/find trouble.

He is free to do whatever he wants. He can continue to tell lies as much as he like(which i already proved) or even continue to insult me. As i'm not interested in his cheap rig(as he mentioned), gonna assemble myself a new c2d instead of begging him to sell me his es proc.(which i did not know it was an es until i was FFK).

To the accused, i'm doing this not becoz of u. However i do hope that you will be more honest and not so money minded in the future. And lastly, pls don't talk so proudly when you are actually selling stolen goods. I believe your source of es proc are stolen directly from the fac. from ur fren.

I will delete all ur pm and sms. I will just act as if our life had never crossed each others. And I wish to have nothing to do wif u again.

I would like to thank everyone for your support and concern shown to me after I started this thread. And hope this will be a good lesson for all traders.

well thats good to hear and hope u will always find a better deal after this..