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post Oct 7 2015, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Oct 7 2015, 03:29 PM)
Combat ops experience is what counts. Even the UK and US forces have learned that. That being said SAF guards are their elite force I should expect them to be good! (My friend is in that unit.)
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combat ops on what scale? what was the nature of conflict? who are the opponents?

inb4 peenoise brag so much about their military when fighting ragtag insurgents...
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post Oct 7 2015, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Oct 7 2015, 03:58 PM)
But what experience does SG army have? And their numbers are filled out by their NSmen which, no offence but looking at my SG colleagues and friends and imagining them going to fight a war... its a big difference being a soldier 1 month a year and 12 months a year.
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although msia-sg will hardly go to war, lets do a simple comparison.. for the army

msia have 80k regular, 50k reservist
sg have got 40k regular, 70k active ns, 300k reservist ns, 300k mindef reservist.. more tanks, more armour, more arti, more nearly everything... their personnel are trained overseas, assets are well maintained

well, fighting as a whole unit of course the last one was konfrontasi when msia and sg were together... after that no large scale conflict.. but that doesnt mean individuals within the army have no combat experience... besides peacekeeping, they do have observers at major conflicts where their ally are at war

well, probably your sg colleagues might not be a good representation of what their army is made off...

what to do... conscripts... what they lack they make up with technology and $$$
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post Oct 7 2015, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Oct 7 2015, 04:49 PM)
We all know the numbers I'm sure. What I've been talking about is experience. I can't say much about military cause I'm not a soldier in Msia or SG army. But from what I see of SG in the commercial fields I'm in, they're very efficient, they can be smart, but often they lack experience and overfocus on the theoretical numbers - leading to mistakes when they try to match their "1st class honours" people against older, more experienced opponents. Their theoretical knowledge will fail against practical experience... and I see signs of the same in their military people.

Amongst my colleagues and friends are Guards officers, specialists and commandos, active and reservist NSmen. Compare them against those who actually fight in ME? I will even bet on Kurds and ISIS in a 1 on 1 fight.

Of course the trouble is that our army will also come off badly against ISIS. So I really hope we don't get involved.
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that's why lor... nsf or nsmen... must go see regulars also... lelz, to bet on kurds or isis i guess you really dont know what you're talking about... your colleagues might look nerdy, but if that's what you claim they are.. i believe they are capable of handling their role when time comes.. one of sun tzu's strategy is to use deception.. look weak, whack hard

nah, msian armed forces are more than capable of handling insurgence... probably not so efficient with some casualties.. it is also the culture... pak arab vs east asians and seasians... pak arab's mentality really cannot pakai

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post Oct 7 2015, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Oct 7 2015, 05:12 PM)
I won't say nerdy, in fact the active NSmen are always very semangat about army. More like comfortable living habits, lack of practice and lack of maturity.
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comfortable living, practice of wat? maturity? lelz... nsf, 18yo... in msia still mostly dota

that's why a lot of things have been catered to them... like the sar21 with scope...
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post Oct 7 2015, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Oct 7 2015, 05:28 PM)
Practice - reserve NSmen lack it. Active NSmen do more of course but selamba abit. Compare with the Kurd/ISIS/US soldier, even National Guard who are really fighting for their life.

Comfortable living - no one actually believes they will ever go to fight. Even if they fight it will be a "short victorious war" as they are the best in SEA and Abang Murica will come help. 18yo in Msia mostly DOTA but the difference is that Msia doesn't depend on those 18yos to fight - SG DOES.

Maturity - is part of experience. Knowing what is possible and what is too risky. Again 18yo soldiers who don't really expect to fight, and furthermore have been taught they will surely win thanks to those stupid Ahbeng to Men movies... they will experience more battlefield trauma and lower effectiveness than expected.

Basically neither of our countries have a long and consistent history of war unlike the West, Israelis, the Kurds and ISIS, maybe even the Africans. We should realise that.

What do you mean by SAR21? It seems to be a good rifle.
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well, am sure those in combat vocation will do good enough even during reservist status.. when time comes urgency will naturally come, how can you compare war situation with peace time..

you have the mindset of most nsboys... but not the regulars... anyway, peace is good... objective is achieved

when time comes, then only then we know whether they would step up.. just like sq117

yeaps, since neither have it is only important to do a comparison for things you can see not subjective matters

the rifle is made for their conscript army... makes 300m shots easily
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post Oct 7 2015, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 7 2015, 10:39 PM)
From the Caspian sea to Syria have to pass through Iran and Iraq, so can safely conclude they are both OK with Russia using their airspace.
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iran are allied, but what can iraq do? they probably dont even know missiles are flying over their head

neway... russia either testing new weapons and getting rid of old ones... lol, tembak like free
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post Oct 8 2015, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 8 2015, 09:02 AM)
Some reports say people found fragments of a large missile with cyrillic writing near Aleppo, some are saying probably some sort of short range ballistic missile like Scud or Tochka.

Also, probably the cruise missile attack also to demonstrate to western powers Iran and Iraq are on board with Russian operations in the region. No way Russia could launch missiles all the way from the Caspian to Syria without Iran and Iraq giving Russia access to their airspace.
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like what i mention before.. iran their ally, iraq cant do shit and probably dont even know

QUOTE(titarium @ Oct 8 2015, 09:12 AM)
Use during normal road travelling , so won't damage the TAR or concrete roads or platform .
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still will destroy during hard turning but not as bad as without

QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Oct 8 2015, 09:33 AM)
they also "accidently" flew into turkey, which obviously got the turks madly furious
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turks no rike shia+russia whacking both isis sunni terrorist and sunni rebels... also afraid rusky will arm kurds to cause trouble in turkey
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post Oct 8 2015, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Oct 8 2015, 10:34 AM)
Russian Long-Range Cruise Missiles 'Particular Challenge' for US Defense
WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — Russian long-range aviation and highly accurate long-range cruise missiles present a new challenge for US strategic homeland defense, US Commander of North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) Adm. William Gortney said.

"The challenge that is confronting us…is the Russian long-range aviation and the Russian cruise missile threat from submarine, subsurface platforms and surface platforms," Gortney said in a Wednesday speech at the Atlantic Council.

He added that the Russian cruise missile threat is a "particular challenge for NORAD and for Northern Command."

On Wednesday, Russia launched a total of 26 cruise missiles from combat ships in the Caspian Sea against Islamic State targets.

Gortney said that the Russian long-range aviation capabilities enable aircraft to potentially hit critical targets in North America and "never leave Russian territory in order to do it."

Russian military capabilities and doctrine are "qualitatively better" than Soviet systems, Gortney commented.
Russia has demonstrated its long-range cruise missile capabilities in Syria, where it was able to hit targets at a distance 1,500 kilometers (932 miles) from ships located in the Caspian Sea.

NORAD was established at the outset of the Cold War and is in charge of monitoring North American aerospace to provide strategic defense of the continent, particularly against long-range nuclear threats.

http://sputniknews.com/military/20151008/1...nge-for-US.html
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isnt the defense shield suppose to work against this?
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post Oct 8 2015, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Oct 8 2015, 10:47 AM)
Its a demonstration. Putin knows how to make an entrance man!

That pussy in the White House still no response?
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well, that's the diff between a democratic country vs an autocratic country... and surprisingly russia's mobilization is kinda fast this time

QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 8 2015, 10:55 AM)
Nahh...Iraq is in some disarray now, but its far from a broken-down third world country. They still have air defense capabilities and a few fighter planes to deploy if they really want to block any Russian use of their airspace.
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far from a broken-down third world country? you gotta be kidding me... they probably dont even have a working radar system with only certain areas covered... iraq have air force capable of stopping cruise missiles? well, they can try... and face the consequences with russian warships at their seashore
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Mexican soldiers should be questioned by expert panel - UN official

Mexican authorities should allow international investigators to interview soldiers who may have witnessed the abduction and apparent massacre of 43 trainee teachers last year, a top United Nations official said on Wednesday.

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MEXICO CITY: Mexican authorities should allow international investigators to interview soldiers who may have witnessed the abduction and apparent massacre of 43 trainee teachers last year, a top United Nations official said on Wednesday.

The disappearance of the students in the southern town of Iguala and subsequent investigation into the attack has drawn sharp criticism of the government of President Enrique Pena Nieto for its inability to solve the case.

During a visit to the country, U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Zeid Ra'ad Al Hussein said Mexico's top military brass should allow a panel of experts from the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights (IACHR) to interview soldiers in the Iguala area at the time of the attack.

"It is important that the government acts decisively on the recommendations of the (IACHR panel), including its insistence that authorities reverse their decision to not allow the experts to interview members of the 27th Battalion," said Al Hussein, according to a Spanish-language translation of his remarks.

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On Monday, Mexican Defense Minister Salvador Cienfuegos said he would not permit the panel to interrogate his troops, and rejected any suggestion they may have been involved.

In the months after the incident, the government sought to wrap up its investigation, declaring that a corrupt cadre of local police in cahoots with a drug gang confused the students for a rival gang. The government says they rounded up bodies and burnt them on a pyre in a nearby town.

However, a panel of respected international investigators last month rejected the official account, pointing to suspicions of forced confessions and possible collusion by federal and state security forces, including the army.

(Reporting by Lizbeth Diaz; Editing by Ken Wills)

- Reuters
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China turns firepower to soft power to try to win tiny Taiwan-held island
Soldiers on the tiny Taiwan-held island of Kinmen regularly conduct military drills repelling amphibious attacks by Chinese Communist troops from the mainland, but the problem may soon be free-for-all landings of Chinese shoppers and businessmen.

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KINMEN, Taiwan: Soldiers on the tiny Taiwan-held island of Kinmen regularly conduct military drills repelling amphibious attacks by Chinese Communist troops from the mainland, but the problem may soon be free-for-all landings of Chinese shoppers and businessmen.

The war games are a reminder that this place is the front line between China and Taiwan where beaches were mined and shots traded up until as recently as the mid-1970s, and that China has not renounced force to ensure it gains control of a territory it considers its own.

"If China attacks Taiwan, we will be the first to die," said Kinmen bar owner Sam Chen, 29, as he watched recent live-fire drills with fellow residents. "Of course I am worried about war, but I also hope Kinmen can build closer ties with China. It's easier for us young people to make money."

There lies the rub. Many in Taiwan, especially a newly politicised youth movement, are angry about perceived economic dominance by China, likening it to an invasion all of its own. But many also see the benefits of closer trade.

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Rustic Kinmen, with a population of less than 129,000, is a half-hour ferry ride to China, but it takes an hour to fly to major Taiwan cities. Just off its shores, glass-walled high-rises wink seductively from the booming mainland port of Xiamen in one of China's most prosperous provinces.

Kinmen is eyeing closer commercial ties with China. It wants to pipe water from Xiamen and has plans to build a bridge and set up a glittering free trade zone with the city.

Taiwan's pro-Beijing, Kuomintang-led (KMT) government also hopes greater economic integration will bolster Taiwan's economy. But Taiwan chooses a new president and parliament in January when the KMT is expected to lose to the independence-leaning Democratic Progressive Party (DPP), which is deeply suspicious of China. Beijing has claimed Taiwan since the KMT fled to the island after losing the civil war against Mao Zedong's Communists in 1949.

"KINMEN CAN DO WHAT TAIWAN DOESN'T DARE DO"

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China is seeking unification with Taiwan under its "one country, two systems" formula by which Hong Kong, a former British colony, returned to Chinese rule in 1997. And Kinmen, or "Golden Gate", is a test for China's ambitions to recover Taiwan through soft power. If Beijing can't win over tiny Kinmen, what chance does it have to convince the other 23 million on the main island of Taiwan?

Kinmen's growth is supported by Chinese visitors drawn to reminders of war such as weather-beaten pillboxes, the beach defences, bullet holes in buildings and graffiti proclaiming: "Eliminate the Communists".

It is also the site of a brand new, six-storey, duty-free shopping mall, billed as the largest in Asia.

"In Kinmen, we can do what Taiwan can't, what Taiwan doesn't dare do," said Kinmen county chief Chen Fu-hai, who wants water, electricity and natural gas to be pumped from Xiamen.

Chen has a three-year roadmap to build a "special economic zone" in which Kinmen can share Xiamen's economy. The proposal is being promoted by a pro-Beijing, non-profit organization in Taiwan with close ties to the Communist Party. It wants Kinmen to decide on the free trade zone issue by referendum.

But it would still have to get the nod from the central government before a referendum can take place.

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"As long as it's good for Taiwan's economy and meets the needs of its people, Xiamen will be happy to make it happen," Chinese state media quoted a Xiamen government official saying last year.

The free trade zone is controversial because it would allow unfettered Chinese investment on to Kinmen - something that is strictly controlled in Taiwan as a whole.

"Kinmen residents are really worried about China," said Andy Yang, a KMT politician who supports the free trade zone idea. "But put that aside: do we want better economic development or not?"

- Reuters

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post Oct 8 2015, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(TechSuper @ Oct 8 2015, 02:02 PM)
chechen yg ni pro-russia. kt chechnya sendiri pun kadyrov masih xle kawal elemen2 anti-russia tu.
tapi bagus gak dia pegi lawan da'esh tu. munafik lawan munafik. hahahahaha
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cuma harap org tak berdosa jgn yg kena bunuh
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post Oct 8 2015, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Oct 8 2015, 02:33 PM)
Obama just has no balls plain and simple. Margaret Thatcher had loads more balls than him.

What were those fighters Iraq was given earlier this year? F-16s IIRC. Won't do much against all those top tier SUs and MIGs and ships.
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obamao's term is gonna be up... he dont want to do anything drastic to spoil his legacy... clearly dont want another headache... their debt still going up, one more conflict rugi and it is in america's benefit that these ppl fight each other

well, given asset is useless if there's no training and experience... probably no fuel and armaments too... maciam indon, given so many toys but doubt they would use it well... nah, besides su-34 dont think the assets sent to syria are the best
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post Oct 8 2015, 03:18 PM

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russia no modern single engine multi role?
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post Oct 8 2015, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(periuk_api1209 @ Oct 8 2015, 07:23 PM)
new docu coming up...battle of bakara-teaser


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post Oct 8 2015, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Oct 8 2015, 11:52 PM)
Confirm Malaysia cannot buy now!

Last time Hilang engine, now Hilang air frame
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US only allow close allies to buy it... why u think US is selling f16 to indon? cause they are going to sell f35 to singkie...
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post Oct 9 2015, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Oct 9 2015, 12:07 AM)
I was hoping Malaysia won't buy that crap plane!

Just wanted to make fun of their titanium air frame kena curi and resold for profit smile.gif

Pafka50 all the way babey
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even if msia decides to buy they wont be offered to msia..

even if msia wants to buy pakfa it would be a nerfed version and msia dont have the $$$
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post Oct 9 2015, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 9 2015, 11:43 AM)
How many type of sub these indonesia wanna buy?
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 9 2015, 12:11 PM)
Indonesia should stick to type 209 instead of having so many differ sub.
ain't cheap to maintain sub.
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indon style buy many diff type small numbers... no spare part just berth but on log recorded as on patrol.. diesel fuel go sell in black market... all happy

QUOTE(Naskah @ Oct 9 2015, 12:29 PM)
why my office car with logo still need to pay toll?  hmm.gif
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logo mcd not counted
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post Oct 9 2015, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(periuk_api1209 @ Oct 9 2015, 05:51 PM)
C-grip dah berjangkit kat askar Malaysia..hahahah

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much better...
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post Oct 9 2015, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Oct 9 2015, 10:28 PM)
Russian airstrikes kill 2 ISIS commanders, 300 militants – Defense Ministry




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