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post Oct 28 2015, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(briantwj @ Oct 28 2015, 04:19 PM)
According to the media, Roman thinks that Mou is bringing bad image to the club with his off-field behavior (criticizing referees, getting into trouble with FA), and also Mou's performance on the pitch is not doing him any favor. So Roman might just sack Mou for his off-field behavior, but by doing so, Roman also causing bad image to the club. Sacking a manager that has just won ur team the Premier League title and CoC last season? doh.gif

In the end still, the decision is in Roman's hand.  sweat.gif
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JM already like this since the first sting, always fight for the club and players. Bout JM when he did well, it happen as he did bring back-to-back EPL. So everything is possible.


QUOTE(our_team89 @ Oct 28 2015, 04:33 PM)
if there is only change that i can accept roman do to the coaching staff is hire back rodgers as mou assistant since he is free rite now
or bring back RDM as assistant since he is close to players last time n players love him
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JM already have his set of backroom stuff and will not give way to any others, I'm seeing that happening.
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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Oct 28 2015, 03:58 PM)
Anyone fancy Ancelotti? brows.gif
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does Ancelotti even fancy Chelsea?
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On our present club situation.

On Mou. He need to bench those under performing seniors players like Iva, and give those youngsters a chance. You need competition for first team places, otherwise the team performance will suffer.

Players I want see in action more.

Strikers
Now I hear Costa injured, should give those not players not playing regularly some playing time to prove themselves.

About club song.
I only know sing "Chelsea, Chelsea!" whistling.gif
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QUOTE(briantwj @ Oct 28 2015, 05:19 PM)
According to the media, Roman thinks that Mou is bringing bad image to the club with his off-field behavior (criticizing referees, getting into trouble with FA), and also Mou's performance on the pitch is not doing him any favor. So Roman might just sack Mou for his off-field behavior, but by doing so, Roman also causing bad image to the club. Sacking a manager that has just won ur team the Premier League title and CoC last season? doh.gif

In the end still, the decision is in Roman's hand.  sweat.gif
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Every manager should be judged by his team performances on field. Yes, they are poor results so far.

Form is temporary, class is permanent.

Look at jose's CV. look no further. Fans have to stick to their manager when it's moments like this else unfortunately the stigma plastic fans won't go. sorry, it was not intentional but on the context, true chelsea fans will understand.

IF roman is obsessed with pep guardiola, fine, at least keep jose mourino until the end of the season, then do whatever he pleases.


kucingmainan you mentioned its not really the injuries but it has in part jose's fault. I think everyone thinks their team plays awful when the results aren't going their way. not everytime a team wins playing beautiful football.

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no such thing as bad luck at how chelsea play thus far. the team play awful football. deserve every defeat that we're getting.
as for injury. with the resources that we have, injury shouldnt be a problem.


The team isn't clicking atm. Chelsea needs a "leader" on the field. John terry cannot carry the team. It's not entirely jose fault. (i'm just saying). Perhaps Jose need to think outside the box a little. His situation isn't as in dire as Brendan Rodgers at LFc.


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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Oct 28 2015, 04:45 PM)
Every manager should be judged by his team performances on field. Yes, they are poor results so far.

Form is temporary, class is permanent.

Look at jose's CV. look no further. Fans have to stick to their manager when it's moments like this else unfortunately the stigma plastic fans won't go. sorry, it was not intentional but on the context, true chelsea fans will understand.

IF roman is obsessed with pep guardiola, fine, at least keep jose mourino until the end of the season, then do whatever he pleases. 
kucingmainan you mentioned its not really the injuries but it has in part jose's fault. I think everyone thinks their team plays awful when the results aren't going their way. not everytime a team wins playing beautiful football.
The team isn't clicking atm. Chelsea needs a "leader" on the field. John terry cannot carry the team. It's not entirely jose fault. (i'm just saying). Perhaps Jose need to think outside the box a little. His situation isn't as in dire as Brendan Rodgers at LFc.
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The thing is, mou stick on the same tactic as last season. Earlier last season, the tactic is Godlike. No doubt about it.

Toward the end of the season, can see dy some team manage to read that tactic and limiting our damage. Can see our result during the second half of the season.

This season, mou still deploy the same tactic. And clearly it is not working.
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post Oct 28 2015, 05:00 PM

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just a wild theory, maybe it's the truth, maybe it's not.

After winning the PL last season, Mou still wanted reinforcement, which is Stones, Mou targetted him early and made him priority. But then board feels that money is not worth it, and also board said to him, 'Look, u've won the PL and CoC with the team, why do u still nid reinforcement?' Mou bcum speechless as his target could not be acquired. Cheaper alternatives were sign like Djiloboji etc.

Mou showing it on the field that the same players and same formation is not good enough. That explains why he keep playing Iva on RB, and why he persist with 4231. It's like indirectly Mou is sending a msg to the board saying, u see, same players, same formation, no use!

Just my guess on the setori. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Oct 28 2015, 04:45 PM)
Every manager should be judged by his team performances on field. Yes, they are poor results so far.

Form is temporary, class is permanent.

Look at jose's CV. look no further. Fans have to stick to their manager when it's moments like this else unfortunately the stigma plastic fans won't go. sorry, it was not intentional but on the context, true chelsea fans will understand.

IF roman is obsessed with pep guardiola, fine, at least keep jose mourino until the end of the season, then do whatever he pleases. 
kucingmainan you mentioned its not really the injuries but it has in part jose's fault. I think everyone thinks their team plays awful when the results aren't going their way. not everytime a team wins playing beautiful football.
The team isn't clicking atm. Chelsea needs a "leader" on the field. John terry cannot carry the team. It's not entirely jose fault. (i'm just saying). Perhaps Jose need to think outside the box a little. His situation isn't as in dire as Brendan Rodgers at LFc.
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i agree. the whole team needs to get back in form and build back their confidence. we are playing like shit, and when we do show signs of improvement, suddenly 1 bad decision can pull us back down. I believe if we can snatch a string of good results, we'll back in business. just dont know when.
i am still sticking with Jose, he is still the best man at the helm to turn this ship around. he knows how to win and he hates losing more than anyone. we need a long term manager, not 1 or 2 different managers every season. there will be ups and downs, and we need to stick together thick and thin.

but another thing is, we have a history of a manager who only proves himself till his 3rd season and an owner that would fire a good manager for much, much less. we are basically in unknown territories. we'll just have to see in a few days.
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QUOTE(briantwj @ Oct 28 2015, 05:00 PM)
just a wild theory, maybe it's the truth, maybe it's not.

After winning the PL last season, Mou still wanted reinforcement, which is Stones, Mou targetted him early and made him priority. But then board feels that money is not worth it, and also board said to him, 'Look, u've won the PL and CoC with the team, why do u still nid reinforcement?' Mou bcum speechless as his target could not be acquired. Cheaper alternatives were sign like Djiloboji etc.

Mou showing it on the field that the same players and same formation is not good enough. That explains why he keep playing Iva on RB, and why he persist with 4231. It's like indirectly Mou is sending a msg to the board saying, u see, same players, same formation, no use!

Just my guess on the setori. laugh.gif
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Exactly as what Im thinking but manager of his calibre should know how to utilize each and every player given to him.
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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Oct 28 2015, 03:08 PM)
typical plastic board
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i think ever since i support chelsea - vialli time, i dont recall we have any manager that go more than 4 seasons, it has been like this even before abr-era, so dont put your hope for a "wenger" in chelsea
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post Oct 28 2015, 07:40 PM

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@YumeNoTaMeNi It might be, or maybe not. Anything can happen behind closed doors. And when ur team is not performing on the pitch, in comes those tabloids from newspaper talking bout losing the dressing room, politics with players and boards etc. sweat.gif Nobody will really know what happen in the dressing room.

Btw guys, just watched the highlight. Seems like Oscar had a good game? Can Mou pls start Oscar next game? Go gung ho with 4141. Ramires sits deep, Hazard, Fab, Oscar, Willian in advance role. Remy striker. flex.gif
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QUOTE(briantwj @ Oct 28 2015, 07:40 PM)
@YumeNoTaMeNi It might be, or maybe not. Anything can happen behind closed doors. And when ur team is not performing on the pitch, in comes those tabloids from newspaper talking bout losing the dressing room, politics with players and boards etc. sweat.gif Nobody will really know what happen in the dressing room.

Btw guys, just watched the highlight. Seems like Oscar had a good game? Can Mou pls start Oscar next game? Go gung ho with 4141. Ramires sits deep, Hazard, Fab, Oscar, Willian in advance role. Remy striker. flex.gif
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Oscar, Willian and hazard performed okay
Just that stoke played physical, they had some difficult time...
Ramires should had do better

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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Oct 28 2015, 08:15 PM)
Oscar, Willian and hazard performed okay
Just that stoke played physical, they had some difficult time...
Ramires should had do better
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Ramires always wild card 1. Sometimes he can be the hero, sometimes a headless chicken
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QUOTE(briantwj @ Oct 28 2015, 07:40 PM)
@YumeNoTaMeNi It might be, or maybe not. Anything can happen behind closed doors. And when ur team is not performing on the pitch, in comes those tabloids from newspaper talking bout losing the dressing room, politics with players and boards etc. sweat.gif Nobody will really know what happen in the dressing room.

Btw guys, just watched the highlight. Seems like Oscar had a good game? Can Mou pls start Oscar next game? Go gung ho with 4141. Ramires sits deep, Hazard, Fab, Oscar, Willian in advance role. Remy striker. flex.gif
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gungho, lu gila ka laugh.gif looking at our player level now, any goal conceded is bad for their confidence, and with current form it will be hard to recover if we are a goal down. Now the best result is park the bus win 1-0 x 5 times then we are good.

and the story of JM losing games because of the club couldnt get his transfer target lagi gila tongue.gif JM ego is too big and no way he want to be below AW in the league laugh.gif i think even JM was shock this season that his title winning player can play become so bad. If he would have expected, i dont think he will allow FELIPE and other senior player to leave or go on loan, now he only left with youth player on the bench. And this season bench by far is the weakest JM had with CHELSEA. If everyone was playing at last season standard then i guess there will not be much of a problem but now last season untouchable IVA has gone so bad and other senior too, now JM have no one to call upon.

on transfer, i think JM should have most say in shopping those first team player, EMELANO should just stick with youth player, if they buy/recommend player like SALAH, CUADRADO, BABA, DJILOBODJI that JM have not set his heart on then naturally he wont have much faith in them. Maybe the board should agree to let JM buy 1 player of his choice each season to reinforce the first team even if that mean slightly paying over the odd. But 40m for STONES are just crazy, that price would have get a world class CB and not just a promising british. And thanks to MANC for jacking up british price further with 50m for STERLING sweat.gif


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Well, the transfer for this season really not very Mourinho-style. Not like the season before. Rmb the season before, Mou identify the problem quickly and bought Zouma, Cesc and Costa. This season, why suddenly the transfers are on hold for so long? Like the Felipe's transfer out, it's already well known Atletico wanted him. But still took so long to complete. I feel like the board x mau Mou to spend big and want him to stick wif the old squad. sweat.gif

just guessing. laugh.gif Coz it's very uncharacteristic for Mou to not immediately get the players he want. Like the Cesc transfer, I rmb we got him very very early during the transfer window. This season's transfer mcm keep dragging je.
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QUOTE(briantwj @ Oct 28 2015, 10:57 PM)
Well, the transfer for this season really not very Mourinho-style. Not like the season before. Rmb the season before, Mou identify the problem quickly and bought Zouma, Cesc and Costa. This season, why suddenly the transfers are on hold for so long? Like the Felipe's transfer out, it's already well known Atletico wanted him. But still took so long to complete. I feel like the board x mau Mou to spend big and want him to stick wif the old squad. sweat.gif

just guessing. laugh.gif Coz it's very uncharacteristic for Mou to not immediately get the players he want. Like the Cesc transfer, I rmb we got him very very early during the transfer window. This season's transfer mcm keep dragging je.
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perhaps board wanted mou to utilize youths more hmm.gif
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QUOTE(chitchat @ Oct 27 2015, 03:47 PM)
Still talking about anak emas ? IVA injured at side line also kena tembak. So IVA injured but still kalah WEST HAM blame who ? also who play RB ? still not BABA, instead ZOUMA is call to fill the spot. There is not so much of anak emas as clearly JM does not think BABA is ready, so he only have IVA to play at RB.

Still talking about no change lineup ? i think now only left BEGO and AZPI are yet to be drop, others player basically have been changed and are not able to cement their place.

But i agree, too much media drama by JM this season, hope he ban himself from media till the end of season  laugh.gif

So now what ? ask JM to recall all the youth that we always though so good and replace all the senior player ? so the super BAMFORD at BORO last season how was he doing at CP now ? barely starting. Well if miracle happen that those youth able to bring CHELSEA to top 4 then it will be all great !! but if not then prepare to say bye bye to all your senior player and team morale. To a manager, dropping a senior for youth is a real gamble, unless the youth is really good or the manager going to stick with the youth good or bad till the end, else is a risk that it will disappoint the senior player playing the same position.

I think JM have tried rotate a lot of player but is still not working, but the only way we going to win again is still by getting those senior player morale up and play again. Now i think is best to stick to a trusted 11, change formation if needed and park the bus to grind out 1-0 win.

I was really disappointed with MATIC last match. JM try to keep faith with him and boom he repay with a red card and i think he totally let the team down. WEST HAM is a game we cannot afford to lose, even a draw will be acceptable as we really need that run of good games to bring the team morale up. That loss sink us down again.
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When i refer to anak emas is before the west ham game. He still stick with iva even after 3 games clearly hes not in form and fast player are targeting the right flank. He actually change for CL game putting azpi to right and plating baba. Then change again for epl. Why? Yes baba was seen nervy at some stage but thats why we put him out there ao that he could get comfy. Mark my word...when iva recovers he will be straight in at right back. And when opposition see the lineup goodbye to cleansheet. Regarding youth. Why not? Kennedy showed great promise along with RLC. He actually doing something that we are seriously lacking, which is running from the middle to penetrate the defence.last season we are overly dependant on hazard to carry the ball from the left and this season when other team got chance to review those game. They are better prepared. Plus hazard form not so hot makes it easier. RLC,kennedy and toure for me are the changes we need to make the senior squad take notice and start to fight for places.

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With our fans still singing for Mourinho. Will Roman or the media change their thinking? I think the fans are making it quite clear that they are standing firm behind Mourinho. flex.gif

Go on you blues!
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