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TSde1929
post Sep 12 2015, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(danokchonger @ Sep 12 2015, 01:36 PM)
funny that the video starts with caption "we are creators presents ...". then jim talks abt " how thoughts is illusory thing....", "thought is responsible for, if not all, most of our sufferings ...", "looking at these thoughts ... who is it that's aware that i am thinking ...", "..intention is everything .... nothing happens on this planet without it...", "access universal mind in the now....", "i was 2 people ....", then he shared his past experience with his suffering mother, n remembered what he read from buddha said abt relieve of suffering ..... n realized the significance of that. "visualization works if u works hard ....".

from time to time, u will see eckhart tolle being displayed. research who he is, the so called new age guru. n what the principles mentioned abv synonym to. god does work in mysterious way, don't u agree ?
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sure GOD does work in mysterioius way biggrin.gif...

on the other topic: most ppl think visualization = new age property but, to do prosperity gospel and all details in my signature below, the christian must be comfortable with new age mindset about visualization.
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post Sep 12 2015, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Sep 12 2015, 01:48 AM)
sure GOD does work in mysterioius way biggrin.gif...

on the other topic: most ppl think visualization = new age property but, to do prosperity gospel and all details in my signature below, the christian must be comfortable with new age mindset about visualization.
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the new age principles mentioned is known as "pop buddhism or pop eastern mysticism or pop zen". in that i agree god does work in mysterious ways. or was it the devil who is working with u guys to get eastern teachings into new age clothes ? biggrin.gif
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post Sep 12 2015, 02:18 PM

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New age, Charismatic, Pentecostal, etc call it whatever you like. But one thing for sure all Christians accepted miracles as the "sign" from HIM.
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QUOTE(danokchonger @ Sep 12 2015, 01:56 PM)
the new age principles mentioned is known as "pop buddhism or pop eastern mysticism or pop zen". in that i agree god does work in mysterious ways.  or was it the devil who is working with u guys to get eastern teachings into new age clothes ?  biggrin.gif
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i reply this quote in WWJD thread, as you mentioned devil lol
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post Sep 12 2015, 06:55 PM

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Hey, congrats. It just rained in KL.

But I think it was just a drizzle ...
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QUOTE(zeb kew @ Sep 12 2015, 06:55 PM)
Hey, congrats. It just rained in KL.

But I think it was just a drizzle ...
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PJ not yet... hopefully night big one (not flood, just big) thumbup.gif
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post Sep 12 2015, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Sep 12 2015, 05:46 AM)
i reply this quote in WWJD thread, as you mentioned devil lol
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the issue is not abt the devil. the issue is u r promoting via video which u think is aligned to ur teaching. i hilited that it is derived from eastern teachings in the form of new age concept, even in the video jim mentioned buddha attributing to his realization of certain aspects that happened to him n his mom. it's just funny u r promoting something christians all along hv warned against. so either the god inspired u to learn eastern wisdom or the devil inspired u. if it is god, then why he nvr teach this ? if it is devil, ur claim of protection is questionable.

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post Sep 12 2015, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(danokchonger @ Sep 12 2015, 07:09 PM)
the issue is not abt the devil. the issue is u r promoting via video which u think is aligned to ur teaching. i hilited that it is derived from eastern teachings in the form of new age concept, even in the video jim mentioned buddha attributing to his realization of certain aspects that happened to him n his mom. it's just funny u r promoting something christians all along hv warned against. so either the god inspired u to learn eastern wisdom or the devil inspired u. if it is god, then why he nvr teach this ? if it is devil, ur claim of protection is questionable.
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This jim carrey youtube here is for everybody, not only christian. i don't intend to influence reader to become christian hence i have to post something that is definitely not christian. I have to find somebody doing faith aka visualization and proven work, and famous, preferebaly not christian. when i found hollywood success with visualization, it's a good thing. the idea is: visualization works.

for christian visualization, in my WWJD thread there are few youtubes. joel osteen / crefflo dollar is one of popular preachers. they are not new age for sure, they have their own agenda. I think you know what's the agenda.

for sure this youtube and WWJD youtube contradict each others. because this thread and WWJD thread serves 2 different purpose.
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QUOTE(de1929 @ Sep 12 2015, 07:32 AM)
This jim carrey youtube here is for everybody, not only christian. i don't intend to influence reader to become christian hence i have to post something that is definitely not christian. I have to find somebody doing faith aka visualization and proven work, and famous, preferebaly not christian. when i found hollywood success with visualization, it's a good thing. the idea is: visualization works.

for christian visualization, in my WWJD thread there are few youtubes. joel osteen / crefflo dollar is one of popular preachers. they are not new age for sure, they have their own agenda. I think you know what's the agenda.

for sure this youtube and WWJD youtube contradict each others. because this thread and WWJD thread serves 2 different purpose.
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it works bcoz there r d other statements u nvr hilite - u nd to work for it. visualization is the exercise to conditioning the mind but it has to come with actions to realize it. it is said in the video as well.

u know why the intention portion comes 1st n took the majority of the video, while visualization only a small n last portion of the video ? without understanding the former, the obsession of the latter, can lead to delusion n suffering.
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QUOTE(danokchonger @ Sep 12 2015, 07:54 PM)
it works bcoz there r d other statements u nvr hilite - u nd to work for it. visualization is the exercise to conditioning the mind but it has to come with actions to realize it. it is said in the video as well.

u know why the intention portion comes 1st n took the majority of the video, while visualization only a small n last portion of the video ? without understanding the former, the obsession of the latter, can lead to delusion n suffering.
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there few actions that i can share.
1. for religious people, pray so GOD can intervene.
2. for non religioius people, just hope for raining to come, or goverment to speed up cloud seeding schedule.

above answer the first bold

it will suffer if humanity put time schedule for things they cannot control. indeed suffering because of time schedule. so to avoid delusion n suffering, don't put timetable.
don't expect it will rain today. visualize it will rain today
don't expect it will rain soon. visualize it's already rain.
don't rationalize when it will rain. visualize now is raining.

above answer the second bold.

I believe jim carrey didn't put timetable to have 10mil while visualizing in muholland drive (btw: i was in united states / los angeles so i know where is muholland drive). But he just simply put both actions everyday: work to pay bills + visualize.

thanks for highlighting... it helps humanity... such acts you did in ur religion surely converted to good karma. thx


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Why does the Indonesian Government failed to combat the haze situation for many years?

Shouldn't ASEAN do something about it? Instead of blaming one another, why not take a preventive steps to combat this haze issue since its a yearly occurance.

It should also be mentioned that in the mid-1990s, former President Suharto's Mega Rice Project to turn 1 million hectares of peat land in Central Kalimantan into rice cropland was a complete ecological disaster and the source of the haze that blanketed Singapore and Malaysia in July 1997 to May 1998.

https://portals.iucn.org/library/efiles/htm.../section12.html


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Indonesia was the only member of the Association of South-East Asian Nations not to have ratified a 2002 Agreement on Transboundary Haze Pollution. shocking.gif

http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-e...mist-explains-3


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post Sep 13 2015, 12:23 AM

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Singapore passes law to fine Indonesian firms that cause transborder haze.

http://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/singapo...der-haze--45171

How about Malaysia? Any such laws?

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Sep 13 2015, 12:23 AM)

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what's the point of all ur post tina ?

problem identification and problem resolution are 2 different things.

you manipulating readers to think critically for what ? that old school approach does not work in these days. it's called blaming game and it does not benefit people at all (only political party probably). i call this problem identification.

for problem resolution: visualization resolve problem and it is simple. It's also free of charge.
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QUOTE(de1929 @ Sep 13 2015, 07:56 AM)
what's the point of all ur post tina ?

problem identification and problem resolution are 2 different things.

you manipulating readers to think critically for what ? that old school approach does not work in these days. it's called blaming game and it does not benefit people at all (only political party probably). i call this problem identification.

for problem resolution: visualization resolve problem and it is simple. It's also free of charge.
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Well.... wasting time, is wasting money and resource for some people... time better spent for something more productive
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Sep 13 2015, 10:29 AM)
Well.... wasting time, is wasting money and resource for some people... time better spent for something more productive
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in context to resolve haze, what can you offer ?
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QUOTE(de1929 @ Sep 13 2015, 08:45 PM)
in context to resolve haze, what can you offer ?
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The power of mantra. It is known that continuous chanting will bring immense miracles to bear. It pierces into the stuff that made your God. The ineffable unfathomable neither here nor there, neither time nor space, beyond even beyond anything nor nothing. Beyond God. That's the ultimate absolute goal.
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QUOTE(SpikeMarlene @ Sep 14 2015, 08:12 AM)
The power of mantra. It is known that continuous chanting will bring immense miracles to bear. It pierces into the stuff that made your God. The ineffable unfathomable neither here nor there, neither time nor space, beyond even beyond anything nor nothing. Beyond God. That's the ultimate absolute goal.
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Mantra works, but mantra is not GOD biggrin.gif... also mantra backfires. it will consume the bearer at the cost of ... raining for malaysia ? well i don't recommend mantra.

i don't have english youtube, but indonesian youtube. Mantra, Kutuk & Pelet translated as Mantra, Curses & Spells

Ev. Daud Tony is one of the best evangelist that understand about these things.


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QUOTE(de1929 @ Sep 14 2015, 09:46 AM)
Mantra works, but mantra is not GOD biggrin.gif... also mantra backfires. it will consume the bearer at the cost of ... raining for malaysia ? well i don't recommend mantra.
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You are wrong, mantra is more powerful than God. The stuff that made God comes from mantra.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlupMCK3zUg

Feel the power!
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QUOTE(SpikeMarlene @ Sep 14 2015, 11:38 AM)
You are wrong, mantra is more powerful than God. The stuff that made God comes from mantra.

Feel the power!
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cmon biggrin.gif ... from christian perspective you are wrong biggrin.gif

fyi: kundalini yoga cannot beat GOD's grace in me. tell ur best kundalini practice teachers / fans / mentor to try to "visit" me.

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