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 ILLEGEAR Z5 & Z7 Discussion Thread V2, ILLEGEAR Z7 is here!

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post Sep 26 2015, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Sep 26 2015, 08:46 PM)
i mean the 802.11AC , if the modem supports 802.11ac, does it need to see whether the connection the ISP provide got 802.11ac or not?
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wifi network is a internal network connection at ure home
Hence ac wifi nothing to do with isp
Ac wifi requirements for notebook is ure router wifi support.

Nothing to do with ISP connection. Are you asking whether ure streamyx/unifi router supports AC??

Default unifi doesnt. Only dual band.

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post Sep 26 2015, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Sep 26 2015, 09:36 PM)
ohhh, so means dual band = signal strength between router and computer

802.11ac = speed management between modem and ISP? ( any ISP will do ? )
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no it between ure router and ure devices.

Dual band is 2.4ghz and 5ghz.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11

Dude you should ask in the networking section of the forum.

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post Sep 26 2015, 11:01 PM

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make it simple for you

whats the speed ure z5 is connected to ure wifi. Try going closest to ure router

also are you using default router.

if yes to second ure max is 300mbps and ure not on AC.. most probably N.

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post Sep 26 2015, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Sep 26 2015, 11:04 PM)
is 802.11ac is speed between router and laptop, then dual band means? some say dual band will be faster and stable ? i asked there but there not much active people to reply me =(

yea the default router is N, innacom one.

thanks yea for telling me. i tried reading in the web but still cant understand completely
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Ok dual band
2.4ghz and 5ghz. There are at different wave length
So both has different channels. 5ghz is at a higher range.
Because we have a lot of things nowadays running in the air around us at 2.4.. Its not stable when you occupy the same channel.
5ghz is shorter range n its higher. Hence y ppl ask you to. Chances of interferance is less

A/b/g/n/ac etc are speeds and channel widths which affects connection speed.

Not sure about that router but unifi default is dual band N router. So max is 300mbps. And you can get that speed at 2.4ghz & 5ghz because it supports channel width 40 at 2.4 also.

AC requires channel width 80.
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post Sep 27 2015, 02:12 AM

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QUOTE(hokc77 @ Sep 27 2015, 12:21 AM)
sorry noob question..  there's a function key to disable the trackpad light right?  the red color on the pad... the girl at illegear show me this morning. forgot which one is the key
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there is a button under the screen next to the shortcuts.. the first on the left at the very top of the keyboard

QUOTE(EXkurogane @ Sep 27 2015, 12:23 AM)
One thing odd about the Z5, which i noticed almost immediately after using it for half a day, is the USB ports. I remembered someone said it didn't recognize external hard disks sometimes.

The trick was not to push in the usb cable's head fully into the port. At one point as u slowly push the cable into the port the computer will detect it, and then u stop there. It's almost like the USB ports are 2 or 3 millimeters "too deep" than necessary.

If u push  the cable's head fully fast into the port the computer  might not be able to detect an external peripheral is being plugged in. Oddly it only applies to my WD external MyBook. HDD. It doesn't happen  to mouse  and keyboard. Not an issue really, i just have to plug my stuff like 2 or 3mm short instead of fully into the port.
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No issue here with Seagate Wireless External HDD (Moded with a 1tb OCZ 840 EVO ssd in it)

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QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Sep 27 2015, 02:32 AM)
sorry to bother you again >< as for malaysia currently, the streamyx 8mbps max speed only around 8.5mbps upload speed base on speedtest.net

how would i benefit from the 802.11AC router which provides much more transfer speed? since from ISP its already limited 8mbps
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I really dont get why ure mixing up between isp and wifi dual band ac connection

Also streamyx afaik doesnt have synchronous upload/download. So its ure download at 8mbps. Ure upload should be way less since its a adsl

the best connection via wifi is on a 5ghz with no drops. Doesnt matter whether its AC or N. AC is beneficial if ure having a fast ssd and a gigabit internet or ure doing a lot of transfers between computers but as i said u will need a fast hdd/ssd to maintain a 100MB/s.

Y ure friends say use dual band so there wont be a channel clash or interference on that wifi channel with other wifi running around ure housing area etc.

Dude this is just to make sure on ure end.. ure house.. u got a lag free networking.
they rest ure at the mercy of the isp.

To make things simpler. Its better if you have a dual band router. And no you dont need a AC dual band router unless ure doing a lot of large file transfers/streaming between ure devices in ure own network.



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post Sep 28 2015, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Sep 28 2015, 12:51 AM)
same issue here with my phone charging on the left port ( the port which optimize charging ) the system sound kept playing and playing after it disconnect and connects/
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1.which port?? the USB 3 or USB 2
2.what phone ure using??
3.Laptop was on battery or charging

really odd i really dont have this issues. using the z5 now..
even now as i am typing to u charging the phone, running widi to my tv.. watching a tv show stream on extended.

its working like a charm

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Bro why is some ppl having issues?? odd


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post Sep 28 2015, 11:26 AM

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Just tested.. Iphone 6+.. no prob dude.
Charging while notebook on bat no prob
Charging while notebook on power no prob

I think its time ppl took a poll on this.
How many ppl is actually suffering this issue.
Is this on all z5 or depends on devices etc
cause for me all my devices work.

btw i dont use cooling pads/usb hubs etc
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QUOTE(destEX @ Sep 28 2015, 11:58 AM)
Haven't experienced the usb issue that everyone been harping since last thread. Did notice the screen wobble if you hold and release but considering the fact that I need to hold the laptop and the screen in order to open the cover lid, else it won't open, the lid is quite tightly secured.

For the usb I usually use a laser mouse and toshiba 1tb usb 3.0 external 2.5" hdd(heavy usage coz laptop internal i swap to ssd) ocassionally a thumb drive
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Which makes think that those having issues either
1. Its a faulty port
2. Driver issue in windows
3. Bios issue

My bios is not on default. Its exclusively runs in efi with every option to speed up booting.

How many of u guys having this issue
1. Install windows n drivers ureself
2. Windows was preinstalled by iLLegear

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Oct 1 2015, 12:48 PM)
I still think you should opt for the 970M, because after all the PS4 and the XBOX One are using AMD's APU, which is somewhat on par with GTX970M.
Therefore, on practice and in theory, if you do it right, the 970M will last you the entire XBOXOne and PS4 lifespan. Besides, the 970M vs 960M difference isn't small too, so I think it will hurt buying the 970M (or even 980M if it exists) but it'll be worth the 'gaming lifespan'. Of course most PC settings are different from PS4 and XBoxOne settings, such as 1080p on the Z5 vs the below 1000p (not even 720p on the xbox), but there are some things that I think if you don't skimp out on that, it would be worth the investment.
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Dude
970m is miles ahead of apu on xbone, ps4...

Its just that the later two benefits from a direct api that fully utilizes the hardware .. N with just one spec.. Optimization is done by the game dev.

This is what dx12 supposedly promises to offer..
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QUOTE(jason_tee @ Oct 1 2015, 05:57 PM)
Is 970m support directx12? On Nvidia site, it didn't mention that  blink.gif  or will they going to come out with driver to make it support...
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It runs 3dmark dx12 api test
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post Oct 1 2015, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Oct 1 2015, 09:15 PM)
Not exactly,

let's assume that DX12 is that "Midas Touch" that Microsoft has been trumpeted (most of it as the "key" for XboxOne to supposedly gain the advantage it badly needed after getting thrashed by the PS4 on all fronts), it still will suffer from hardware based bottlenecks. However, if you reflect that on the PC, most of the time so called "polished AAA" games with similar hardware (like using Radeon HD78xx that's comparable to the ones in the XBoxOne and PS4) won't yield similar results, but far inferior results. Expecting even DX12's APIs that would move overheads from the CPU to the GPUs (in fact it will use all GPUs, including the embedded integrated intel GPU if there's one) won't really help if the cost of processing power alone is trunked by the poor optimization of games, like in the kerfurfle of Batman, and The Witcher 3.

So for a portable gaming machine, rather than taking the risk just because "on paper" it looks powerful, shouldn't it be better for the owner to buy a 970M (besides, its a buy once can't upgrade unless you changed the entire mobo) than a 960M and be at the mercy of optimization which may or may never come at all?
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To make this simple for you
Overheads in dx12 refers to command list from driver to the game/application.

Dx11 on nvidia is superb because of the syncronous nature of the command list by the driver from multithreaded api calls to the gpu. Nvidia has done a insane job.

Dx12 gives game developers to optimize their game engine for command list.

Witcher 3 is poorly optimized?? Thats a first.
Batman AK is pretty good now. The dx11 flaws were as i said.. Game devs just introduce threaded api calls without caring for how drivers are going to issue a command list to the gpu.
Also things gets complicated with different hardware config on pc with the async nature of managing resources. Think of this like how gsync solved tearing etc.. Similar concept.

Consoles are poor performers. Its just that with low level apis game devs get to optimize its hardware. Aint so simple with pc.

Dx12 gives game dev the same oppurtunity. If the game engine is bad.. It will reflect in console as well.

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QUOTE(greedy5513 @ Oct 2 2015, 09:59 AM)
PrinceJ, Z5 possible to upgrade to new skylake chips?
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New mobo etc dude. Basically a adifferent notebook under the hood
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QUOTE(AeonixG @ Oct 3 2015, 12:02 PM)
Dat extra rm799 to fork out for GTX970M =/...Not aiming to achieve high end gaming, was only opt to play Plant vs Zombie Garden Warfare 2 in atleast playable FPS in med-high if possible for GTX960M.

And also just wondering if the company could help flash the laptop bios to the latest so that i can install window 10 myself when it reaches here if i confirm order within this month.
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All the new orders comes with latest bios dude

As for windows.. Just do a uefi install of windows. That you can google.

970m .. Get that rather than a 960m.

Other stuff you can always upgrade and do not give any form of gain in gaming etc as much as gpu.
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QUOTE(xarive @ Oct 6 2015, 10:00 PM)
How can I change my boot logo from Windows to ILLEGEAR?
Running on w10 x64.
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Install ure windows as uefi install
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QUOTE(xarive @ Oct 8 2015, 01:12 PM)
Windows 10 x64. Did a clean install by formatting my primary drive . Still don't getting illegear logo.. By mean of illegear boot logo I mean this boot logo every time it boots. Just for your information in case you got it wrong . I would also like to get illegear logo printed in computer properties just like other oem.
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QUOTE(xarive @ Oct 8 2015, 05:13 PM)
I prepared two pendrives ( logo.bat msdos and another win10 iso usb , both prepared using Rufus).

After I flashed logo.bat. The computer reboots and I plugged in my win10 pendrive, and there it started the installation . (Is this considered as uefi? Or do I need to boot into uefi and install the windows ?)
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If u google u would have learned how

Btw u can use rufus

Use rufus to format a usb in fat32 GPT with that iso image.

About system logo in windows.. Google that dude. Theres a tool to edit or you can do it manually in commandline.

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QUOTE(xarive @ Oct 8 2015, 06:18 PM)
There is always a way for oem to install for their machines. And if you mean 8ootchanger something like this, it's not compatible eith windows 10. Let's just assume that my machine is clean without os and I'm trying to install windows 10 with illegear boot logo. I'll try and look for dual boot later but I'm pretty sure there's sop to install this logo isn't ? For every new win10 machines.
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Dude.

As i told you before.. This is the correct way to create a uefi install for windows. Its been like this since windows 7. U need to create a gpt fat32 windows image on a usb. Simple. You can do that with rufus.
Download windows 10 iso image from MS.

Only difference with oem is they do a install, config it. Then image it. Then just recreate the image to everybody with individual keys as u buy them. Unless somebody is hardworking to always to do a scratch install.
With gpt partitions you can also create a safe backup default image when things go wrong. Again google is ure friend here.

N second part the logo i am talking about is the system in windows. There is a tool u can google for that or do it via commandline.

Do you know the difference between uefi vs legacy boot??

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QUOTE(xarive @ Oct 8 2015, 06:59 PM)
I'll try when I got home. Brief description :

Power button pressed > illegear and Phoenix bios > * windows boot logo and loading circle * > login screen.
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Thats legacy boot
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QUOTE(xarive @ Oct 8 2015, 09:32 PM)
Apparently it seems like me myself doesn't do enough homework for these. Sorryyyyyy. Anyway I've done booting windows installer using uefi. Just need do proceeds some simple converting my ssd to gpt. Thanks for assisting everyone .
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user posted image

Ure next step.

I thought u were asking about how to do this.
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QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Oct 8 2015, 11:38 PM)
jz faced the problem of the "fast charging port"

plugged in the cable to my iPad, and it keep prompting to allow or not allow access.. after i change to other USB 3.0 Port, then the problem went away.
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Fast charging port is a usb 2.0 port afaik. Cause thats the one that still charges when ure laptop disabled

Btw crazy.. Charging a ipad on a notebook port.

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