Plan to propose to my gf. Saw a diamond ring in Love&Co, 0.56c ideal cut (Love & Co signature or something, supposedly better than GIA certified diamonds). Full spec below.

0.56c
VS1
H
Round diamond
RM15k including white gold ring.

Is it worth it? Saw this to be the best so far, surveyed Tiffany, Cartier, TSL, DeBeers, Le Lumiere, Habib become more confused because I don't see much difference no matter how they try to sell their special / signature diamond. So far Love & Co seems "best" from my very limited experience. But not sure 15k is worth it for the spec?

HCA calculator from pricescope is 1.4 for this particular diamond.

Thanks!

This post has been edited by phoenixxx: Dec 7 2016, 10:12 AM

I think u can get a loose 0.6ct diamond from Wah Chan, VS2, F colour, 3ex cut with GIA cert for less than 7k LOL that was a year ago when i went to get my proposal ring..price depends on how good u manage to nego.

My fren got a pretty good deal from Habib recently but dun remember the specs though, lower spec but larger size.

U r only paying for the design of the company, like Tiffany & Co's

U can always get a loose diamond from habib, wah chan, poh kong etc and send it over for it to be "custom made"...

*edit i think the special cut is the lumiere cut which is different from conventional ones

This post has been edited by hitsugayat10: Sep 7 2015, 07:36 PM

Really.. I purposely considered Love&Co because I thought lower tier in terms of branding... not too educated about brands. Only know Tiff, Cartier are the most exp.

0.7c at Habib around 11k+, didnt see any 0.6c. Prices vary so much.

U can nego for sure...0.7ct also depends on other specs esp colour..
I did stayed in wah chan as a trainee manager (for a while) more than a decade ago and the baseline is 30% discount for branch manager (which i think is still keeping the same policy)
Not sure about the rest but i got my diamond for 4.5k when price stated was about 6.6k or 6.7k...dun remember
Just dun look at the base price
U can get at least 25% by negotiating...i think my friend got more in habib

This post has been edited by hitsugayat10: Sep 7 2015, 07:57 PM

wow.......cost reallly has gone up.
mine was purchased end 2011, Lazare, 0.56 C, Ideal Cut, VS2, G, RM12800.

It is good idea.

I did view it under the microscope, can see the shape but since it's already set in the ring I can't see from the bottom for the hearts shape. Can also see the inclusions which is very very minor.

They have their own "ideal cut" diamonds which sparkle more brilliantly than the GIA ones they showed. Or maybe it's the sales talk that made it appear to sparkle

I ended up buying this diamond as I felt it was "right" (no experience, so all pakai feeling)

This diamond is certified by IGI, I did some research and the lab is also quite reputable, not too bad compared to GIA.

Thanks to all for your guidance and sorry for the late reply, just got back from holidays

This post has been edited by phoenixxx: Sep 28 2015, 09:35 PM

Double post

This post has been edited by phoenixxx: Sep 28 2015, 09:34 PM

love & co also can nego for price? nvr bought ring before so didn't know. Went to surveying just now and price is around 7k for 1 pair of wedding ring.

Yeah, can nego in most if not all the brands except maybe the highest ends ones. Probably marked up anyway for the feel good factor when you get a discount. No harm asking.

I suggest you to go for Wah Chan if you dont really care about the brand coz they offer a very competitive price. Love & Co i personally feel that the service is not good also the workmanship. I am wearing a wedding band from Love & Co, the engraving is very bad and lil blur, when I ask them to check few months ago up till now also no news yet. Poor service.

If your budget is 15K, then you may consider DeGem, Lazare Diamond ring too.

i like the design from love & co. But after hearing ur comment now i confused.

i see wah chan design but i don't like it ):

such dilemma...

Have you visited DeGem (Lazare Diamond)? You can pay a visit, the ring not bad tho..

end up buy the ring from love & co. first they give 10%, after come 2nd time manage to ask more disc.

0.2 carat only. considering le lumiere as well, around 5k for pair with 0.4 carat, end up with love & co because i prefer the design more.

Me too, just bought based on feel. Already bought from Love & co & she already said yes, haha. It turns out she didn't really care about the brand. Maybe should've bought something cheaper T.T

lolol!!! I read from the threads here saying Love&Co has one of the most affordable and good looking wedding bands?

And also wah chan rough diamond and send to other branded shops for design/fitting would be a cheaper option?? meaning to say must know exactly the ring size for my other half?

Thanks!

GIA is one of the facilities grading diamonds and there's no such thing that a diamond "better" than GIA certified diamonds because GIA doesn't churn out diamonds. All these are just talks or "marketing gimmicks" to make their product more appealing. As far as cuts are concerned, triple excellent cut is the best cut money can buy.

Poh Kong has these Hemera diamonds and they spot 2x the amount of facets which makes them sparkle more than the normal cut diamonds but if i'm not mistaken, these are diamonds are not certified by GIA because they are deemed "abnormal".

i heard from my jeweler friend that these diamonds has no value because no collectors would want them as their are out of the league.

Yes, most important you like it. I choose Love & Co coz my partner like it so okay la..haha

i don't think so. love&co is quite exp compare to other shop. love&co 0.2 carat cost me rm7k while le lumiere 0.4 carat cost me rm5k. But i really think is the most good looking bands (for my taste). it's simple yet it's not plain. it's up 2 u to choose, whether you want design or carat more.

woah! that's VERY expensive.

I got my loose diamond from Wah Chan (GIA Certified), .5ct, D, VS1, Triple EX for RM8k and then i made the band from Love&Co. The band itself costs RM4k but it's really worth the price. the workmanship of the ring itself is just great, very wearable.

wah, haha. didn't know can buy the diamond only. My first time buying diamond ring by myself. I heard many people say the love&co workmanship isn't that great compare to the ring they display. is it true? still haven't get my ring yet, so kinda worried.

yeah, you can buy loose diamonds from them but usually people also go for the ring because most of them bought with a purpose and would prefer not to be hassled with the trouble in shopping elsewhere. their ring is cheap and depending on the weight and design, it should costs you no more than RM800.00 but bear in mind that you can feel the rough workmanship after you have felt the ones from Love & Co.

hearsay can be in many forms. i've got my engagement ring and wedding bands from them and they have not misrepresented to me in any manner whatsoever. the ones on display which i have tried on feels exactly like the ones I've bought, if not, better so yeap, don't worry too much. besides, i trust their professionalism. the salesperson attended to me was very helpful and friendly. I went to the Garden's branch.

For those who are about to buy diamonds, don't follow this guy.

15k is ridiculously expensive, Love & Co is charging a premium for their "brand".


You can get a good spec 0.5 carat from SK or WC for half the price.

*edit*

double post.

This post has been edited by lowyatter: Dec 23 2015, 04:14 PM

To be frankly tell you, getting those diamonds from "KNOWN" brand confirmed will be expensive. They tend to mark up the price due to the "branding". You can try to find those shop who is generally customize the ring, and definitely you can get whatever shape of the ring that you want as long you provide sample to them.

Beginning of the year I bought from a unknown brand in Singapore called JannPaul ( not Love & Co, Tiffany & Co, Goldheart etc ). I bought 0.59c diamond with Class E and VS2 only cost SGD5.9K. Nowadays GIA is quite common for all the diamond, and those vendors usually would avoid those without GIA cause they know that its very hard to sell them off.

jannpaul is quite famous actually, many people talking about it. was thinking to go jannpaul also, but its a bit not convenient since it was at singapore.

try DeGem....is good

I have some questions!

1. I want to buy ring and propose to my gf, but I don't know her finger size, how? Can I walk to any jewellery shop, get the design I want, then ask them to borrow a "sample" ring for the proposal? Later only bring my gf to choose the correct size.

2. Do you guys bring your gf to choose the design before you propose? If No, what if she doesn't likes the design?

3. Do you think the color and clarity important? or as long as the diamond "shine" then is OK? =)

expensive if u ask me..for RM15k, u can get higher carat.

but the H color is not recommended.

i would suggest to choose between D ~ F color only. Why? because naked eye can see the color difference when compared to one another..

U can forego clarity if u want...because no one will bring out a magnifying glass to chck ur wife's diamond ring during gathering/meet up.

So the top most important to me is Carat & Color..follow by Cut and Clarity...

Remember if ur wife or her friends are the comparing type, they will put their diamond ring side by side to compare...and once they do that, 2 things will be very obvious, Size (Carat) and Color...anything between stage 2 color (G H I) will show some yellowish to brownish....

thats not true.
limit for naked eye are as following:
colour: H
clarity: S11

obviously the higher grades, the better it is. i am talking about the limit. spend most money on cut!

Diamond price different by it cutting and clarity .
Same 0.5 c diamond might have different price because of this ..
those that got GIA certified will written everything in the card

i was only able to get 10% discount.. u get how many discount after second visit?

Not much disc, only free engraving for both ring. :0

Thx to all who replied, long time I didn't check this thread. Anyway, expensive or not, the deed is done (Sept 2015) so the time to fuss about how overpriced it is is over...

At the end of the day, it's between you and your special someone, but I hope my experience will help you to gauge better quality rings & diamonds for yourselves.

If you want to avoid paying a premium for branding, then your shopping should be quite fast based on what others have suggested in this thread.

My mistake was doing this as a last minute decision (2 week before going to Europe), no time to gather sifu insights here....

Hi all.

I want to sell my Hearts & Arrow diamond ring. (Triple excellent)

Weight: 0.36 ct
Colour: D
Clarity: VS1
Cut: excellent
Size: US size 5 (resize-able by buyer)
Metal 18K


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Which place is better to get a diamond ring? Love & Co or DeGem or Diamond and Platinum?

Clueless about what my girl will like.

Love & Co - Design should be nice, as Love & Co and SK Jewellery belongs to the same company. According to SK salesperson, their bands and ring settings are made in Italy. I took a look at SK's design recently and their ring settings are indeed nice and gives a more contemporary feel. I believe Love & Co should be the same. As far as I know, Love & Co's bands and ring settings are made in Italy as well. Price wise, I am not sure about Love & Co, but for SK, if not mistaken, half a carat with setting should be around 13K, for their True Love. Most of the diamonds of True Love are graded by IGI. Their diamonds are shiny, but they are not really perfect Hearts & Arrows. At least not the sample I saw. But to be fair, other diamond shops may also claim to have diamonds with perfect Hearts & Arrows, but unless they can prove it, I will still take that as a marketing gimmick.

DeGem - Their signature is Lazare diamonds. The salesperson was good enough to show me the difference between a Lazare and a normal GIA diamond that is available in his shop. Price wise is around 13K+ for a 0.42ct, F color, VS1 clarity, Ideal Cut. Lazare is a branded diamond from overseas, hence there is a premium. But truth to be told, although the proportion of how the diamond is cut can be quite strict, it doesn't really guarantee it has an excellent cut, unless proven. To be fair, buying a Lazare can be safer than buying a random diamond because of their stricter process in diamond selection, but if a GIA graded diamond is cut with excellent proportion, they can too shine as nice as Lazare, less the premium. Oh, btw, Lazare diamonds are graded by themselves, not an independent lab.

Diamond and Platinum - Nope, didn't went into that shop to enquire.

So for your question... design wise, I will go for Love & Co. It should be more modern. Brand wise, I will go for Lazare, but should be more expensive.

And if you are clueless about what your girl likes, go for Tiffany & Co. or Cartier. Just top-up budget only bro!

But if you are adventurous, can go and look for diamonds online also. Overall, my personal experience is it is overall cheaper, but you will have to do more work yourself. Do check it out on my blog: http://myengagementringexperience.blogspot.my/

Recently SK launched the Allove series, 10 hearts 10 arrows. I think is nice too.

This post has been edited by MoneyMaker prince: Aug 24 2016, 07:15 PM

Ya, definitely looks nice. I guess I love the ring setting more though. It's a pity SK does not do setting for loose diamond.

Anyway, their Group CEO explained here:



Besides that, Poh Kong also has their own non-standard cut, the Hemera diamond, with 101 facets.

And Jann Paul got their 88 facets, 8 hearts 8 arrows, octagon shape (8 sides) diamond... so 'huat'... check it out here. I think they are called D'Amor series.

Personally, I will stick to the traditional 57 facets diamond, 58 facets (if include the culet, according to Wikipedia). This is because those materials that I can study online mainly focused on this cut and it is easier for me to shop around. Besides, I am a traditional guy.

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: Aug 25 2016, 09:52 AM

But those tranditional 57 facets diamond is not that shine compared to those that with more facets. what do you think about this?

I asked one of the salesperson in a jeweller store before, he mentioned that the extra facets will produce more white light, meaning it sparkles more, but does not mean it will produce the necessary dispersion/fire/rainbow effect.

I also went to ask uncle google earlier, and found out that extra facets will indeed produce more scintillation (white sparkles), but at the cost of reducing the diamond's dispersion (fire/rainbow effect), as well as the diamond's brilliance (total light return). Refer here.

So if you go and take a look at Hemera 101 facets diamonds at Poh Kong, try to move the diamond around, it will sparkle like crazy, but you will notice that it will have lesser rainbow, if compared to a traditional 57-facets. But of course to be fair, if you get a poorly cut 57-facets, then it won't produce anything nice also, and on the contrary, if you get a really good Hemera 101 facets, it may produce fire as well. However, if you compare to a 101 facets diamond to a 57 facets diamond that are cut ideally, then 101 facets will show more scintillation and 57 facets will show more fire, and probably brilliance.

So I will summarize like this:

101 Facets/More Facets
Scintillation - Very Excellent
Dispersion - Good
Brilliance - Good

57 Facets
Scintillation - Excellent
Dispersion - Excellent
Brilliance - Excellent

But ultimately, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. If the buyer feels that Hemera attracts him/her more, by all means just buy Hemera. And if the buyer feels that the traditional 57-facets him/her more, then just buy the standard traditional facets.

Personally, my first choice will still be buying the 57-facets, because:

1. It has long proven proportions for optimum scintillation, dispersion, and fire.
2. There are really a lot of choices to choose from. Most diamonds are 57-facets.

Just my 2 cents.

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: Aug 25 2016, 11:07 PM

Wow... you sounded like you are the master of diamond.

But I do agree with you that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Some people are just willing to spend RM30k on 0.4 carat branded diamond.

Try look at JannPaul Solasfera diamond

10 heart 10 arrow

Haha. Ya, "sounded" only. I just read what I can from the internet.

Thanks for the intro!

another branded diamond. Jann Paul is one of the retailers. It seems to have good review! Not sure about the price though.

Hmm, compared to SK's 10 hearts 10 arrows, which has 81 facets, Solasfera has 91 facets. I wonder how will SK's one stand against Solasfera. Any ideas?

You could PM JannPaul and ask them about carat size and price range. A 0.5carat diamond should cost around $4K SGD before setting and GST

Haha, those who need can PM and research a bit. I don't need dy. No money liao.

Hi guys,

I plan to propose to my gf this coming december when I will be away to Hong Kong in few weeks time. I have zero knowledge on buying proposal ring and somehow it feels like it takes a lot of courage to enter the jewelery shop to ask because I am not sure what should I ask .. lol .. I did ask my gf before and she prefers Love n Co lol


Hopefully, k/ tards will be able to help me abit with my few questions:

1) How many rings should we buy when we are proposing ? Isnt it just the proposal ring ? or we have to buy along the engagement ring as well ? So we have to buy 3 rings at one go ?

2) If the ring size does not fit, then can we readjust the size back ?

3) What other brands that are recommended ?

4) Does love and co really has the best and modern design ? As i know the price is expensive, is it really worth the price and can we really get discount from the manager when we are negotiating ?

Here is my comment:

lol. why takes a lot of courage? usually you don't need to ask anything. just need to tell them your budget. hahaha... anyway, do read up the basics such as the 4Cs:

Go to Audrey's to do some price survey.
Learn about diamonds:
Prosumer Diamonds
Beyond4cs
Niceice

secondly, don't rush into buying anything. please don't feel that you are obliged to buy from the salesperson even if he/she is very nice to you, think it through.

thirdly, do share with us the diamond details you are looking at.

Here is my answer for your questions:
1. If not mistaken, proposal ring is the same as engagement ring. This is the ring you used during proposal, when you kneel down and pop the question. The ring that you exchange during wedding ceremony is wedding band, which is another different ring. There is actually one more ring before engagement ring, which is called promise ring, but seldom hear people talk about it these days. As far as I am concerned, I have only one engagement ring and one wedding band for my wife.

2. Most jewellers will give you free resize for 1 time. Just ask and see what they tell you.

3. In Malaysia, you can try iDo Jewellery or Tailored Jewel.

4. Love & Co price is negotiable. It is still a typical jewellery store. Its sister company is actually SK Jewellery from Singapore. You let us know the specs and price, and I am sure some of us will give you our opinions.

Good luck in your diamond hunting!

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: Nov 29 2016, 07:41 PM

Thanks bro for the advice and details that you have given to me. Really helped me a lot. Guess I will do some research first from the link that you have given to me. Need go do lots of homework lol

I still not sure about the diamond specs yet but I plan to get the proposal ring first lol Then maybe I will get the wedding band when I have the money. Hope she says yes then can proceed lol

My budget is within RM 5k for the proposal ring and I guess with that budget the ring that I can get is quite limited right and the carat is too small?

Plan to get the proposal ring before my trip with her but I would not want myself to make the rush buy. Tonnes of survey and research needs to be done before I proceed to buy the ring as I dont really have the knowledge.

As for the wedding band, that would be the ring that you will wear throughtout the day after married? Can that be said that the wedding band is cheaper than the proposal ring?

Of course you will be getting the engagement ring first!

It is not about carat, it is your sincerity that counts, hahaha.... Anyway, you should be able to get at least a 0.3ct, which actually is not that small. With your budget, you can consider the following:

1. Tailored Jewel is running promotion: https://www.facebook.com/tailoredjewel/phot...?type=3&theater (Money-back if unsatisfy!)
2. ZCOVA is running promotion: https://www.facebook.com/zcovajewels/photos...?type=3&theater

However, since you mentioned that your girlfriend likes Love & Co. You should pay them a visit. My friend managed to get his engagement ring below RM 5K. Not sure about the specs though. One thing good about Love & Co is that their ring setting is very nice (based on my experience with SK Jewellery).

And yes, wedding band in general is cheaper than the engagement ring.

Put my foot into Love and Co yesterday and there isnt any customer during that time. A salesman approached me and he basically asked me is this was my first time to love and co and have I done any surveys around . And then the budget . I said my budget was RM 2-3k at first and he showed out few diamonds with only an engagement ring that price is around 3k based on the price tag lol Others that he showed is approx 4k to 5k.

He explained alot of stuffs to me eventhough Im still confused lol Cant really absorb that much haha. He recoomended me an engagement ring to me where the specs are 0.23ct, H colour, and its VS2 at a price of RM 4588. Base tag is around RM 5189 i think. Its a round diamond and it comes along with a special box. As for the design, it looks like a rose holding the diamond on top with a curled ring. The design looks good to me and personally quite fancy the design. Didnt know that the price is so expensive i think the brand tends to mark up the price a lot. Basically over my budget lots of times. Lol

The price is definitely marked-up due to rental, salary, and commission. Comparing to Tailored Jewel, Tailored Jewel is selling 0.25ct E VS2 + 18K white gold setting @ RM 3,300. Higher colour but cheaper price (Not sure comes with GIA cert or not though because the size is below 0.3ct, if you are interested, you can check with Tailored Jewel.) Alternatively, if you are focusing on ring design, you can look for iDo Jewellery at Bukit Jalil (Contact her via Facebook for appointment.)

For that diamond offered to you at Love & Co, which laboratory graded the diamond? Is it IGI? Or some other lab?

I think the main benefit of Love & Co is the ring design. They really look nice. Do they do resize? Or do they exchange with another setting if ring size not correct?

Topic title edited to be more general since it has turned into an advice thread for other forumers :-)

Enjoy your ring hunt guys.

This post has been edited by phoenixxx: Dec 7 2016, 10:19 AM

If memory serves me well, i think its some other lab and its not IGI. Yes, i think the design looks really nice but I never really been to other diamonds store yet.

I have asked the salesman on this and he mentioned they will do resize for free in the first time if the ring does not fit in any Love and Co outlets within a month.

Free resize hmm? Are their ring settings made in belgium? Or locally?

Hmm I didnt ask them about this. Lol Too many doubts in me now. Usually, it will be made locally? Anyone asked this before in love n co?

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This post has been edited by RootOfJesse: Jan 14 2025, 01:40 AM

That's a pretty bad experience especially when we need more money to settle other stuff for wedding! Since you paid in full, I guess you should entitle a better discount for the ring because sales price for installment should usually be higher, and probably there's why there is a 4% "retransaction fee"... a sudden thought. Btw mind sharing the % of discount off the listed price for your ring?

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This post has been edited by joeylny: May 31 2017, 01:07 PM

work there?

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This post has been edited by joeylny: May 31 2017, 01:07 PM

If anyone would like to buy Love n Co. proposal ring can pm me also.

When he bought 2yrs ago was RM15k with certificate.

PM for more details. Willing to let go half the price.

Wedding ring is not only a matter of money. Surely it has to match your budget. But if you saw the ring you want at Love&Co and have some extra money to cover the price difference - get it, if it's "yours"

Hey Joey,

I really interested with the setting of love and Co , I do have the loose diamond dunno if u have jalan to buy the setting for me.

Thank you hope to hear from you soon.

Reg

Chan Fei

FYI to everyone
Love & co do not accept loose diamond and do setting n gives you their crystal box (given only if u buy 0.40 carat and above) otherwise everybody will buy loose diamond from wah chan n set it in Love n co and everybody in the world would assume you buy the ring from Love n co.
They have very strict quality check on their diamonds so they cannot accept just any diamond n put their label on the ring.
That would affects their brand if the diamond is not good quality.
Likewise branded companies like cartier, chopard, tiffany & co wont do that either as they are selling their brand.
The price you pay is for the brand ,packaging and presentation n their quality ..

IF you are looking for nice and big diamonds go for private jewellers as they can source better 3ex diamonds with better HCA and scintillation but if u want better packaging then pay more for the brands. Its once in a lifetime to ask one special woman to be your companion for life. If she likes Love & co then go for it by all means ..If budget is lower than buy lower clarity as its not obvious to naked eye. Unless your girl knows diamonds then dont skimp on quality but sacrifice on the size of carat..

for diamond, at least how much ?plan for proposal

A 0.3ct probably will be between 5000 to 6000 i think. Why dont you walk-in and ask?

plan buy a ring for proposal, maybe love and co? gold heart?

Budget?

Btw, better to ask here instead: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3224055

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: Nov 5 2017, 08:18 PM

Hi guys,
Have anyone get wedding band from love and co?
Is the rose gold really can maintain the color forever? Sales person told me their rose gold color won't ever fade and have life time warranty. Wonder how true is it...?

Unlike most white gold, i believe rose gold do not have any plating, like white gold's rhodium plating. When people see that a white gold "fade", this is possibly because the plating layer has suffered wear and tear, which is normal, so a re-plating is needed at a minimal cost. As for rose gold, since no plating is required (afaik), I believe what the salesperson said ia true. But if you scratch the ring, then some gold will gone, so if scratch too much then maybe it will look faded as well. On the other hand, when you "scratch" platinum, the material just gets transferred from one part of the ring to another part, and won't be gone from the ring, at least this is what I have read before.

expensive

Cheaper options else where.. Pricing you pay is premium.

lol i have been walking for 7 hour to look at wedding band, 1st shop walk in is love and co, after 7 hour battle end up also going back love and co.
total 6k for a pair but she is so love the design on 1st sight , is seem the most high end price among other , not dare go tifiany or bvlgari

love and co is nice. or u can try lumiere as well.
Which love and co did u go .. if its gardens i might be able to get some discount ..

hemera diamond is worth?

[quote=joeylny,Dec 19 2017, 03:45 PM]
love and co is nice. or u can try lumiere as well.
Which love and co did u go .. if its gardens i might be able to get some discount ..

Haha how many percent? They given Christmas discount now..on top of that still able top up discount?

Mind to share what are the 3 banks?
not sure if still applicable now

Thanks

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This post has been edited by RootOfJesse: Jan 14 2025, 01:39 AM

Thanks for your reply.

[quote=zimC,Dec 20 2017, 11:14 PM]
[quote=joeylny,Dec 19 2017, 03:45 PM]
love and co is nice. or u can try lumiere as well.
Which love and co did u go .. if its gardens i might be able to get some discount ..

Haha how many percent? They given Christmas discount now..on top of that still able top up discount?

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i relocated to sg..so cant get for u anymore ..but u can negotiate them they always have promo

hey guys, was told Love n Co now issues their diamond with IAG certs?

They do have some certs from some not-so-famous lab, but they are also relatively cheaper, but there is a possibility that these labs may be not as strict as GIA.

Their current signature LoveMarque diamonds are graded by IIDGR or IGI. I would prefer the IIDGR certs because the diamonds should be newer and with laser inscription on the table of the diamond and with the Hearts & Arrows image on the cert. Personally think that IGI stones are more like their old stocks, but I can't be sure.

hmm so confused with these certs stuff, went over to midvalley the other day and was told other than the LoveMarque series, the rest are all IAG, which i cant find much info on that.

Made a call to sunway branch, the staff there answered and told me most of their diamonds are now graded with IAG

If that's the case, then perhaps you try to look elsewhere?

went to see a few, but kinda like the design there but just a little concern with the cert, also wah chan comes with in-house cert from gia, is there such a thing?

Usually in-house cert means the jeweller grade themselves. GIA is an independent organization and they are the world's diamond foremost authority. To put in simpler, we can just say Wah Chan carries diamonds graded by GIA, and keeps these diamonds in-house.

As for IAG, my personal opinion is that their name and font has some motive of confusing people. Just my 2 cents. Again, sticking to GIA is the better choice if you are comparing AIG.

thank you so much for the explanation. really appreciate it!

yea i thought so, the IAG has the same letters to AIG, and a quick search on the internet hardly yields anything on IAG

No problem! Let me know if you have further questions.