I am currently undergoing industrial training at a IT company in Subang.I was told by the company to sign an agreement saying that I will stay and complete industrial training otherwise I will have to pay the company RM3000.Initially I thought it was OK to sign as I had nothing to lose but only knowledge and experience to gain.

Sad to say, after 1.5 months all I was told to do is to carry heavy things,deliver documents, do dirty work etc.Nothing related to my IT degree.Basically I am just a general worker for them.

I need advise on the following :-

1.Ideas to get this company to terminate and kick me out on their own will without me having to pay the RM3000

2.Possible loopholes in the agreement which I signed.The agreement does not state working hours,employee benefits,leave entitlements etc.Basically I have to complete my industrial training or else pay RM3000.Left the agreement at home, will provide more details later today




This post has been edited by curlyfries: Nov 20 2006, 12:06 PM

wtf, this kind of company also have...

industrial trainee they also treat like this....no wonder they ask u signed...scare u terminate from training...

if i were u ..just ciao...lar...u think they got a lot of money to sue u meh..
if yes, they not hire industrial trainee already

hmm

actually you maybe right, i don't remember filling up any forms with my personal details.

in the agreement, it only has my full name and mailing address.

sori to hear that...i think,better u discuz this matter with your supervisor/lecturer. this is serious matter since it will affect ur academic result.first of all,don't simply hentam that wtf company.try talk with them.good company shud have good management.if the management/admin does not response to ur complaint,u can forward to your lecture.

i don't think there's any point discussing it with a lecturer / supervisor.
thanks to my own foolishness, its now between me(as an individual) and the company.

WTF... u work for them... still need to pay the company money?
wat the ^&$%^# world?

yea, pay them money if i do not fulfil the industrial training

If you want to terminate from the training, you should inform your lecturer, as this can affect your result or make your industrial training failed. If termination won't affect your results, then you can talk to your company, saying that the requirement for passing the industrial training is to do some works related with your study. If they can't compromise, you can just leave off...You need to do some work related to your study to get the degree. They can't provide that kinds of job, they are the people who not follow the agreement, so what you signed is not valid anymore.

like I said earlier, its between me and the company now.

how can I leave when it is clearly stated in the agreement that I have to fulfil the number of months agreed otherwise a penalty of RM3000 will be imposed on me?

you get what i mean?

bring it to court, Employee NEVER PAY company for Industrial training

did u know how to read?
he need to pay only if he breached the contract


to OP, did you ever discussed with ur supervisor/boss in the company?
im sure someone is in charge to keep an eye on you there.

Oh mind you, industrial training may or may not train you to use your knowledge in your field, but to train you how to work, adapt to environment, etc. And usually 1st few weeks they will let you do some strange stuff (maybe tot test ur skill/attitude etc , reason may vary)



This post has been edited by e-jump: Nov 20 2006, 12:53 PM

yup,u trained with them,n if u cross the agreement,u need to pay them RM3000??...isshh!!! ur rights has been denied!!!

This post has been edited by amir_links: Nov 20 2006, 12:50 PM

i'm goin for industrial training next semester. which company is that?
need to be very careful with it...

inside the agreement, did they mentioned about the job scope of your industrial training ?

can't remember.agreement is sitting at home.

will provide more details after work

no point, both supervisor / boss don't care.insist that i stay or PAY.

which is why i am eager to know if there's any way out.

1st few weeks? It has been more than 1 month.Basically I am a general worker.
Carrying heavy boxes, cleaning up the office, toilet are some of my daily tasks.

This post has been edited by curlyfries: Nov 20 2006, 01:53 PM

i am not here to bad mouth or what.

just wanna know how can i get myself out of this mess

well, may i know is it this industrial training are compulsary for your univeristy ? if doesnt count any credit, for me, since the job scope are totally different with your field, i will just speak it out and if the company are still treating as same without assign any relavant job, then i will just mess up with the job that they assign to me, e.g. want me move A to B by afternoon, i drag until evening pun belum siap. see who can bear with who until last minutes.

no one is able to help me out ?

I've come across that there are company hired ppl for industrial training but ask them to do misc work.

Anyhow, can you state the following details:
1) How long more you need to endure further?
2) How much are they paying you every month?
3) Is this so call IT company is really an IT company?
4) Can you define heavy things? and dirty work?