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post Dec 31 2017, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Dec 31 2017, 12:21 PM)
AVX offset has been a debatable issue since Kaby Lake. Some said it's a bug while others saying otherwise.
It could be that you have certain OS software running in the background that's using AVX instructions, triggering the AVX offset thingy. Here's the list of AVX-based software: https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/what-c...d-avx2.2498660/
Some games might be using AVX instructions, or NVIDIA driver itself is implementing it: http://www.overclock.net/t/1641867/avx-offset-bug
This doesn't happen with Skylake-X though or he needs more games to test: http://www.overclock.net/t/1643198/coffee-...ks-while-gaming
One guy said this bug is triggered when C-states are enabled in the UEFI: http://forum.gigabyte.us/thread/2704/psa-avx-offset-bug-real
I personally don't use AVX offset because I want my OC to be all out for worst case scenarios.  biggrin.gif
Check out the OC guide in the top post of this thread for GIGABYTE's Z370 GAMING 7. It will guide you OCing your 8700K to 5GHz.

But I don't think you can comfortably run 5GHz OC with your current air cooling, unless you hit silicon lottery with a really low VID (stock voltage with everything defaults) and delid. So it really depends on good is your CPU which varies from one chip to another. Get a bigger and better cooler like the NH-D15/S or 240mm+ AIO.

It is advisable to check your VID through the UEFI first before proceeding for OC. Check your CPU core temps with your CPU running at stock clocks with Realbench v2.56, then only proceed for 4.7GHz on all cores and so on.

For record, my 8700K has 1.088v VID and it's capable to do 5.0GHz running under a high-end custom loop at 1.280v on Prime95 v29.3 custom blend 1344K.
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I managed to get 5.0 using some guide from internet.
I have attached a pix - your comments highly appreciated.


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post Dec 31 2017, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(Xnet @ Dec 31 2017, 12:40 PM)
I managed to get 5.0 using some guide from internet.
I have attached a pix - your comments highly appreciated.
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5.0GHz @ 1.344v seems like an average 8700K, so I think it's not going to run comfortably under air cooling/low end AIO etc.
What's your load temp in your daily applications/games and Cinebench R15?
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post Dec 31 2017, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Dec 31 2017, 12:48 PM)
5.0GHz @ 1.344v seems like an average 8700K, so I think it's not going to run comfortably under air cooling/low end AIO etc.
What's your load temp in your daily applications/games and Cinebench R15?
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Do I bring it down lower to say 4.8Ghz?
BTW I am new to Windows having been on Mac all these while
And being new I dont even know much about the temp etc but I have attached another screenshot after running cinebench

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post Dec 31 2017, 01:13 PM

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Alright guys, currently I am testing my 5.0GHz OC on the Hero X with the an air cooler in the form of Noctua NH-D15S (2x NF-A15 fans).
To my surprise, for some reason I need to pump more voltage as compared to my custom loop.

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Noctua NH-D15S: 1.328v, avg core temps: 39C Idle, 86C load
Custom loop: 1.280v, avg core temps: 37C Idle, 72C load

Yes that's right, 0.48v difference! blink.gif

At first I couldn't believe it so I re-tested using back my custom loop again I can confirm that there's no chip degradation in which I am still able to obtain stability at 1.280v under custom loop same like before, I don't know why LOL. rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(Xnet @ Dec 31 2017, 01:03 PM)
Do I bring it down lower to say 4.8Ghz?
BTW I am new to Windows having been on Mac all these while
And being new I dont even know much about the temp etc but I have attached another screenshot after running cinebench

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Cinebench R15 is a medium-load non-AVX based application that doesn't stress out your CPU that much but it is a good indication for your minimum cooling limit.
From your temps, I can see that you will have very high chance of hitting 100C mark in high-load software including gaming, resulting in speed throttling or worse, BSOD.
Either reduce your vCore (if possible), down your OC to 4.8-4.9GHz or upgrade your cooler.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Dec 31 2017, 01:13 PM)
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Alright guys, currently I am testing my 5.0GHz OC on the Hero X with the an air cooler in the form of Noctua NH-D15S (2x NF-A15 fans).
To my surprise, for some reason I need to pump more voltage as compared to my custom loop.

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Noctua NH-D15S: 1.328v, avg core temps: 39C Idle, 86C load
Custom loop: 1.280v, avg core temps: 37C Idle, 72C load

Yes that's right, 0.48v difference!  blink.gif

At first I couldn't believe it so I re-tested using back my custom loop again I can confirm that there's no chip degradation in which I am still able to obtain stability at 1.280v under custom loop same like before, I don't know why LOL. rclxub.gif
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interesting. So i might be able to get some voltage down when i pair my cpu with that new corsair 360mm AIO cooler xD.
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QUOTE(reconvision @ Dec 31 2017, 02:17 PM)
interesting. So i might be able to get some voltage down when i pair my cpu with that new corsair 360mm AIO cooler xD.
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I understand that the lower temps, the lower the voltage required but seriously did not expect as much as 48mV.. .Funny LOL.
Guess something is not right when the temps go above 80C, don't know...

btw, Corsair H150i Pro RGB 360mm AIO cooler appeared in a recent LTT video. Seems like the launch is not today, but most likely to be released during CES 2018 that will be held in Las Vegas between 7-12/1/2018.

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Dec 31 2017, 02:26 PM)
I understand that the lower temps, the lower the voltage required but seriously did not expect as much as 48mV.. .Funny LOL.
Guess something is not right when the temps go above 80C, don't know...

btw, Corsair H150i Pro RGB 360mm AIO cooler appeared in a recent LTT video. Seems like the launch is not today, but most likely to be released during CES 2018 that will be held in Las Vegas between 7-12/1/2018.

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thumbup.gif looking forward to it. hopefully it will arrive at our shore soon.
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QUOTE(reconvision @ Dec 31 2017, 03:01 PM)
thumbup.gif looking forward to it. hopefully it will arrive at our shore soon.
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Same here.
I'm curious because that review claimed that this 360mm AIO beats the NZXT X62 280mm by 13C, which is a huge figure. blink.gif
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Dec 31 2017, 01:13 PM)
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Alright guys, currently I am testing my 5.0GHz OC on the Hero X with the an air cooler in the form of Noctua NH-D15S (2x NF-A15 fans).
To my surprise, for some reason I need to pump more voltage as compared to my custom loop.

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Noctua NH-D15S: 1.328v, avg core temps: 39C Idle, 86C load
Custom loop: 1.280v, avg core temps: 37C Idle, 72C load

Yes that's right, 0.48v difference!  blink.gif

At first I couldn't believe it so I re-tested using back my custom loop again I can confirm that there's no chip degradation in which I am still able to obtain stability at 1.280v under custom loop same like before, I don't know why LOL. rclxub.gif
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that's quite a huge difference and prolly explains why I also had to pump the voltage that high. for the 72c custom loop, how long did you keep the rig under load?
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ Jan 1 2018, 01:23 AM)
that's quite a huge difference and prolly explains why I also had to pump the voltage that high. for the 72c custom loop, how long did you keep the rig under load?
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That was a 3-hour run... check back few pages for the ss

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So this is the result after 2.5 hours priming with the NH-D15S... maximum temp hit 91C

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post Jan 1 2018, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jan 1 2018, 02:07 PM)
So this is the result after 2.5 hours priming with the NH-D15S... maximum temp hit 91C

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On my NH-U14s its in the high 90s but passed the bench. I think I will add another fan for the noctua and test again
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Just went to chevk my bios setting again. Found out my vccio (auto) at 1.336v and voltage agent (auto) at 1.152v . Are these value too high??? My dram voltage it set to 1.35 default.
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QUOTE(reconvision @ Jan 1 2018, 04:20 PM)
Just went to chevk my bios setting again. Found out my vccio (auto) at 1.336v and voltage agent (auto) at 1.152v . Are these value too high??? My dram voltage it set to 1.35 default.
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Those values are almost similar to ASUS's boards running at auto setting.
At DDR4-3200, I have mine defaults at 1.3v and 1.125v respectively but I decided to reduce the VCCIO to down 1.125v and I can still run it stably. As a result, my CPU temp can be reduced a bit. biggrin.gif
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Seems like my MasterLiquid Pro 280 AIO cannot handle the heat, reaching 96C max and failed at 41 mins.
It could be that this AIO is a problematic review unit, so I guess I would need to pick another AIO cooler to the test.

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jan 1 2018, 06:29 PM)
Those values are almost similar to ASUS's boards running at auto setting.
At DDR4-3200, I have mine defaults at 1.3v and 1.125v respectively but I decided to reduce the VCCIO to down 1.125v and I can still run it stably. As a result, my CPU temp can be reduced a bit.  biggrin.gif
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Which software are u using to test the ram stability? I have just tune both vccio and vccsa to 1.2v. I am now running prime95 blend test for 2 hrs. Kinda weird, when i click start blend, prime95 stop working msg pop out. but when i try to test again, it is running an hr without any crash. Not sure if the ram is stable or no.

Edit: After 2 hrs of prime95 blend test, no error or warning or crash. So i guess is stable.

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Mine is DDR4 3466Mhz what can I do to tweak it?
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QUOTE(reconvision @ Jan 1 2018, 07:11 PM)
Which software are u using to test the ram stability? I have just tune both vccio and vccsa to 1.2v. I am now running prime95 blend test for 2 hrs. Kinda weird, when i click start blend, prime95 stop working msg pop out. but when i try to test again, it is running an hr without any crash. Not sure if the ram is stable or no.
Edit:  After 2 hrs of prime95 blend test, no error or warning or crash. So i guess is stable.
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Two options:

1) Prime95 custom blend 1344K 95%+ RAM usage
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2) HCl MemTest Pro (paid version) for RAM
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QUOTE(Xnet @ Jan 1 2018, 07:47 PM)
Mine is DDR4 3466Mhz what can I do to tweak it?
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What's your RAM model specifically?
Activating XMP profile will automatically set your RAM speed/timings to the rating and voltage to 1.35v, VCCSA and VCCIO will be determined by your BIOS which might be excessive than your settings actually required.
You can try reducing or increasing them depending on the strength of your integrated memory controller (IMC) that's built inside your CPU IMC strength may vary from one chip to another so you will need to figure it out yourself by trial and error.
Obviously, weak IMC will require you to pump more VCCSA and/or VCCIO and vice versa.

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