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This is basically a THREAD for Arsenal F.C of North London supporters. All are welcome to post your thoughts here as long as you :
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Full Fixtures & Results for season 2013/14:- MATCH[ ]DD/MM/YY[ ]HOME TEAM v. AWAY TEAM[ ]RESULTS EPL 17/08/2013 Arsenal 1-3 Aston Villa | Giroud 6' (assist by Chamberlain) UCL 22/08/2013 Fenerbahce 0-3 Arsenal | Gibbs 51' (assist by Walcott), Ramsey 64' (assist by Wilshere), Giroud 77'(P) EPL 24/08/2013 Fulham 1-3 Arsenal | Giroud 14' (assist by Ramsey), Podolski 41', Podolski 68' (assist by Cazorla) UCL 27/08/2013 Arsenal 2-0 Fenerbahce | Ramsey 25', Ramsey 72' (assist by Gibbs)
EPL 01/09/2013 Arsenal 1-0 Tottenham Hotspur | Giroud 23' (assist by Walcott) EPL 14/09/2013 Sunderland 1-3 Arsenal | Giroud 11' (assist by Ozil), Ramsey 67' (assist by Jenkinson), Ramsey 76' (assist by Giroud) UCL 19/09/2013 Olympique Marseille 1-2 Arsenal | Walcott 65', Ramsey 84' (assist by Gibbs) EPL 22/09/2013 Arsenal 3-1 Stoke City | Ramsey 5', Mertesacker 36' (assist by Ozil), Sagna 72' (assist by Ozil) COC 26/09/2013 West Bromwich Albion 1-1 Arsenal | PEN 4-3 | Eisfeld 62' (assist by Bendtner) EPL 28/09/2013 Swansea 1-4 Arsenal | Gnabry 58' (assist by Ramsey), Ramsey 62' (assist by Giroud)
UCL 02/10/2013 Arsenal 2-0 Napoli | Ozil 8' (assist by Ramsey), Giroud 15' (assist by Ozil) EPL 06/10/2013 West Bromwich Albion 1-1 Arsenal | Wilshere 63' (assist by Rosicky) EPL 19/10/2013 Arsenal 4-1 Norwich City | Wilshere 18'(assist by Giroud), Ozil 58'(assist by Giroud), 88' (assist by Ramsey), Ramsey 83' UCL 22/10/2013 Arsenal 1-2 Borussia Dortmund | Giroud 41' (assist by Sagna) EPL 26/10/2013 Arsenal 2-0 Crystal Palace | Arteta 47' (penalty, assist by Gnarby), Giroud 87' (assist by Ramsey) COC 29/10/2013 Arsenal 0-2 Chelsea
EPL 02/11/2013 Arsenal 2-0 Liverpool | S.Cazorla 19' (assist by S.Cazorla), Ramsey 59' (assist by Ozil) UCL 6/11/2013 Arsenal 1-0 Borussia Dortmund | Ramsey 62' (assist by Giroud) EPL 10/11/2013 Manchester United 1-0 Arsenal EPL 23/11/2013 Arsenal 2-0 Southampton | Giroud 22' (assist by Boruc), Giroud 86' (pen) UCL 27/11/2013 Arsenal 2-0 Olympique Marseille | Wilshere 1', Wilshere 65' (assist by Ozil) EPL 30/11/2013 Cardiff City 0-3 Arsenal | Ramsey 29' (assist by Ozil), Flamini 86' (assist by Ozil), Ramsey 90' (assist by Walcott)
EPL 04/12/2013 Arsenal 2-0 Hull City | Bendtner 2' (assist by Jenkinson), Ozil 47' (assist by Ramsey) EPL 07/12/2013 Arsenal 1-1 Everton | Ozil 80' (assist by Walcott) UCL 11/12/2013 Napoli 2-0 Arsenal EPL 14/12/2013 Manchester City 6-3 Arsenal | Walcott 31' (assist by Ozil), 63' (assist by Ramsey), Mertesacker 90' (assist by Ozil) EPL 21/12/2013 Arsenal 0-0 Chelsea EPL 26/12/2013 West Ham United 1-3 Arsenal | Walcott 68', 71 (assist by Podolski), Podolski 79' (assist by Giroud) EPL 28/12/2013 Newcastle United 0-1 Arsenal | Giroud 65' (assist by Walcott)
EPL 01/01/2014 Arsenal 2-0 Cardiff City | Bendtner 89', Walcott 90' (assist by Wilshere) FA 04/01/2014 Round 3 Arsenal 2-0 Tottenham Hotspur | Cazorla 32' (assist by Gnabry), Rosicky 62' EPL 11/01/2014 Aston Villa 1-2 Arsenal | Wilshere 34' (assist by Monreal) , Giroud 35' (assist by Wilshere) EPL 18/01/2014 Arsenal 2-0 Fulham | Cazorla 58' (assist by Wilshere) , 62' FA 25/01/2014 Round 4 Arsenal 4-0 Conventry | Podolski 15' (assist by Ozil), 27' (assist by Per), Giroud 84' (assist by Gibbs), Cazorla 89' EPL 28/01/2014 Southampton 2-2 Arsenal | Giroud 48' (assist by Sagna) , Cazorla 52'
EPL 01/02/2014 Arsenal 2-0 Crystal Palace | Oxlade-Chamberlain 47' (assist by Cazorla), 73' EPl 08/02/2014 Liverpool 5-1 Arsenal | Arteta 69' (assist by Chamberlain) EPL 11/02/2014 Arsenal 0-0 Manchester United | FA 15/02/2014 Round 5 Arsenal 2-1 Liverpool | Oxlade-Chamberlain 17', Podolski 47' (assist by Chamberlain) UCL 19/02/2014 Round of 16 1LRound of 16 Arsenal 0-2 Bayern Munich EPL 22/02/2014 Sunderland 1-4 Arsenal | Giroud 5', 32', Rosicky 43' (assist by Giroud), Koscielny 57'
EPL 01/03/2014 Stoke City 1-0 Arsenal FA 08/03/2014 Quarter Final Arsenal 4-1 Everton | Ozil 7' (assist by Cazorla), Arteta 69'(pen), Giroud 83' (assist by Sagna), 86' (assist by Rosicky) UCL 11/03/2014 Round of 16 2L Bayern Munich 1-1 Arsenal | Podolski 57' EPl 15/03/2014 Tottenham Hotspur 0-1 Arsenal | Rosicky 2' (assist by Chamberlain) EPL 22/03/2014 Chelsea 6-0 Arsenal EPL 08/03/2014 Arsenal 2-2 Swansea | Podolski 73' (assist by Gibbs), Giroud 74' (assist by Podolski) EPL 29/03/2014 Arsenal 1-1 Manchester City | Flamini 52' (assist by Podolski)
EPL 05/04/2014 Everton 3-0 Arsenal FA 12/04/2014 Semi Final Arsenal 1-1 | Mertesacker 81' (assist by Chamberlain) EPL 12/04/2014 Arsenal 3-1 West Ham United | Podoldki 44' (assist by Cazorla), 78' (assist by Ramsey), Giroud 55' (assist by Vermaelen) EPL 19/04/2014 Hull City 0-3 Arsenal | Ramsey 31' (assist by Cazorla), Podolski 45', 54' EPL 26/04/2014 Arsenal 3-0 Newcastle United | Koscielny 26' (Assist by Cazorla), Ozil 41', Giroud 67' (assist by Ozil)
EPL 03/05/2014 Arsenal 1-0 West Bromwich Albion | Giroud 14' (assist by Cazorla) EPL 11/05/2014 Norwich City 0-2 Arsenal | Ramsey 53' (assist by Giroud), Jenkinson 62' FA 17/05/2014 Final Arsenal 3-2 Hull City | Cazorla 17', Koscielny 72', Ramsey 109' (assist by Giroud)
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Arsenal Football Club was originally founded in 1886 by employees of the the Dial Square workshop at the Royal Arsenal, which was an armaments factory in South-East London, in a district named Woolwich. Consequently, they were first named ‘Dial Square’ A Scotsman, David Danskin is the man said to have bought the first football for the club. Among the first players for the club was former Nottingham Forest goalkeeper, Fred Beardsley who would be the one to obtain a set of red kits, the colour the Arsenal still wear today. The first match for the new club took place on December 11, 1886 in an open field in the Isle of Dogs (another London district) against a club known as the Eastern Wanderers in which the club won 6-0. What is interesting is that other than the date of this match, everything else written so far may possibly be a myth.
By Christmas however, they had changed the name of their club to Royal Arsenal. They originally played on Plumstead Common before moving to Manor Ground in 1888. Royal Arsenal would move away and then return to Manor Ground as Invicta Ground proved too costly for them. Playing in the amateur leagues proved fruitful for Royal Arsenal as they won a couple of trophies and largely outclassed the other amateur clubs from London. But it wasn’t all rosy for them as the professional clubs attempted to sign their players and they were subsequently banned for amateur football for being too professional, which relegated them to only playing friendlies and in the FA Cup. So 1893 in a bid to gain access into the Football League, Royal Arsenal changed their name to Woolwich Arsenal and became a limited liability company, and attempted to buy the Manor Ground. This ended up working and Woolwich Arsenal began life in the Second Division, where they would spend eleven years, generally finishing mid-table every year. Under the guidance of manager Harry Bradshaw, Woolwich Arsenal would gain promotion to the First Division, where they would lose their manager before the season started to Fulham. They would never come close to challenging for the League title due to financial concerns. Their playing grounds were on the South side of London where most clubs in the division were on the North side, and so to stay afloat they were forced into selling their top players, which resulted in smaller attendances for home matches. In 1910 Woolwich Arsenal went into voluntary liquidation as they were on the verge of bankruptcy when Sir Henry Norris, the chairman of Fulham FC, and other businessmen bought the club. Norris was well aware of the financial difficulties of the location of Woolwich Arsenal and so attempted to merge the club with Fulham, and when that failed, attempted to have them play on alternating Saturdays, which also failed. And so Norris focused on finding a new location for the club, eventually setting his sights on Highbury, in North London, which was met with opposition from the fans and the residents of Highbury. Norris forced it through and spent 125,000 pounds on a new Stadium (9.5 million in 2010 prices) Having been relegated back to the Second Division, Woolwich Arsenal would move to Highbury in 1913, and change their name from ‘Woolwich Arsenal’ to ‘The Arsenal. After four years of no competitive football due to World War 1, The Arsenal would gain promotion into the First Division in a dubious way. In the final season of football in 1914, Arsenal had finished in 6th place, but the First Division was expanding from 20 clubs to 22 and two clubs were to be given the extra two places in the division. Chelsea was given the one place, despite being relegated in the previous season. The other club that had been relegated was none other than Tottenham Hotspur, and they were in the running for the extra place along with Barnsley and Wolves, who had finished ahead of Arsenal. Despite all this, Norris argued that The Arsenal should obtain promotion due to their “long service to league football” and the League board agreed, voting 18-8 to promote The Arsenal. It was alleged that they only managed this promotion due to bribery by Norris with his good friend and chairman of Liverpool, John McKenna, and has fueled the long-standing intense rivalry with Tottenham every since. It has also been argued that Norris was aware of match fixing before the war by Liverpool and Manchester United and used it as a tool to be promoted. Whatever the case, The Arsenal gained entrance into the First Division in 1919 and have never left since, holding the record for the longest unbroken stretch of top-flight football.
After some very poor showing and narrowly avoiding relegation, Norris had enough of his manager Leslie Knighton and hired Herbert Chapman in 1925. Chapman would put his stamp on The Arsenal, changing the way the club did things. Chapman changed the training philosophy and physiotherapy regimes and added numbers to the players shirts, a practice that is now common-place across the footballing world. He also altered the kit, adding white sleeves in 1933, and insisted The Arsenal be known as just ‘Arsenal’ so they would be the first club in alphabetical order every time. He even managed to change the name of the nearby tube station from Gillespie Road to Arsenal, which now has a 52 metre mural to commemorate the team’s move from Highbury in 2006. Chapman also changed the way the game was played on the pitch with the new formation now called ‘WM‘ which can also be described as a 3-2-5 or a 3-2-2-3. It proved so successful that by the late 1930s, most clubs had adopted this formation In Hebert Chapman’s first season in charge, Arsenal made their best finish ever in the league by placing second, but the next few seasons had them stay mid-table. Norris allowed Chapman to spend large sums of money however, and nearly won their first ever trip to the FA Cup final, losing 1-0 to Cardiff City. Three years later, and after buying Arsenal greats Cliff Bastin, David Jack and Alex James, Arsenal made the FA Cup final once more, this time defeating Chapman’s old club Huddersfield Town 2-0 and earning the clubs first ever major trophy. They then won the League title for the first time in 1931, recording their best ever win against Grimsby Town, 9-1, which still stands. In 1932 Arsenal lost the FA Cup Final to Newcastle 2-1 after they had a goal that was wrongly awarded as a goal kick. The 1932-33 season would see Arsenal win their 2nd league title. In January 1934, Herbert Chapman would suddenly pass away from pneumonia, but that would not stop the winning ways as they would win the League again that season, as well as 1934-35 and 1937-38 and another FA Cup in 1936. Arsenal were such a strong club that in 1934, England had seven Arsenal players start a match and defeated the then, World Champions Italy 3-2, and is still a record for most players from a single club starting a match for England. On March 9, 1935 Arsenal saw it’s largest ever attendance for a match versus Sunderland, counting 73,295 fans at Highbury. The Second World War would suspend all competitive football for the 1939-40 season, and Highbury was used as an ARP station (Air Raid Precautions), and had a bomb destroy the North Bank roof and setting fire to the terrace. With Highbury taken Arsenal played their home matches at White Hart Lane while football still continued, although the matches do not count in official statistics as star players would play as ‘guests’ for various clubs when not in the armed forces. The war claimed nine first team Arsenal players, the most of any club in the top flight. Arsenal were also afflicted with a heavy financial burden of repairing their war damaged stadium, and consequently struggled when regular club football began once again in 1946, finishing 13th. Tom Whittaker took over as manager and won the League title in the 1947-48 season. They would then win the FA Cup in 1949-50, a 2-0 win over Liverpool. After nearly winning the Double in the 51-52 season, but failing in both competitions, Arsenal won their 7th League title the following year in what was one
of the closest title races ever, narrowly beating Preston North End only on goal average. The title would ultimately prove to be Arsenal’s last trophy for seventeen long years. Tom Whittaker would pass away in 1956, and Arsenal would try and fail with Jack Crayston, George Swindin and Billy Wright as managers, generally finishing mid-table, and having to endure Tottenham winning the double in 1961. On May 5, 1966 Highbury would see it’s lowest ever attendance be recorded with 4,554 in the stands, and having only one player in England’s 1966 World Cup winning squad, a far cry from the successful and prosperous times under Chapman and Whittaker. Wright, then the manager, was fired and the Arsenal board made the odd appointment of their club physiotherapist Bertie Mee to replace him. The appointment of Bertie Mee was so surprising that he himself requested to return to his old role if he proved unsuccessful after one year. Alongside assistant Dave Sexton, Mee promoted players from the youth team, boys who would become household names in Charlie George, John Radford, and Ray Kennedy. Alongside Frank McLintock and Peter Shorey, they reached the League Cup in 1968 and 1969, but losing each one. They managed to make it into Europe for the 1970 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup however, winning it and ending their long trophy drought. The 1970-71 campaign then came, in which Arsenal recorded their first double winning campaign where they won the FA Cup and the League title, winning the league by defeating Tottenham at White Hart Lane on the last day, and defeating Liverpool 2-1 in extra time at Wembley. (And *we* complain about six years. Try 17 and then let’s talk crisis) Sadly the double winning side was broken up shortly after this, and after finishing 16th and 17, Bertie Mee gave his resignation.
Terry Neill would be appointed manager, and his time at the helm witnessed the strong emergence of an Irish core of Liam Brady, Pat Rice, Frank Stapleton, Pat Jennings, and David O’Leary which gave Arsenal a still-strong following amongst the Irish. While Neill’s time at the club was in the midst of the Liverpool dominance, he still managed to direct the club to three FA Cup finals in 1978, 79, 80 but only winning it in 79, when Alan Sunderland won the match in injury time to record a now-famous win. The 1979-80 season saw Arsenal play a record breaking 70 matches and reaching two finals, the FA Cup loss to West Ham and losing the finals in Europe to Valencia on penalties. The summer of 1980 saw Liam Brady leave for Juventus and apart from 1982-83, Arsenal continued to make the top four, but never looked like winning anything. The lost both Cup semi-finals that year and and Terry Neill struggled to manage the club, arguing with key players as a drinking culture immersed itself at Arsenal. After losing to Third Division Walsall in the League Cup, Neill was fired in Decemeber 1983 and replaced with Don Howe, under whom Arsenal would fare no better. And when Howe heard the board had approached Terry Venables (then at Barcelona) he resigned and Steve Burtenshaw was named caretaker while the club searched for a replacement. Alex Ferguson, then at Aberdeen in Scotland, was approached, but he rejected Arsenal and six month later would find himself at Manchester United.
In May 1986 former Arsenal player, George Graham was appointed manager of Arsenal. Graham would slowly sell off older players and promote from the youth team and was able to dictate a stronger sense of discipline at the club, something the previous managers had attempted and failed at. In Graham’s debut season, Arsenal was able to with the League Cup, coming from behind in the final against Liverpool with a double by Charlie Nichols. This was in the midst of a UEFA English ban for European competitions in relation to the Heysel disaster, and so Arsenal missed out on the 87-88 UEFA Cup.
The 87-88 campaign saw Arsenal lose the League Cup final to Luton Town, but Graham was building a squad that would continue to improve with their young defense coming together under captain Tony Adams, Lee Dixon, Steve Bould and Nigel Winterburn. This, buoyed by the terrific midfield of David Rocastle, Michael Thomas and Paul Merson and goal-scoring sensation Alan Smith, in 1989 Arsenal would finally win their first League title since 1971, and would do so in stunning fashion. Arsenal led the league since Christmas, but allowed Liverpool, who were going for the Double, to overtake them by losing to Derby County and drawing at home to Wimbeldon. The final match of the season was at Anfield and Arsenal were required to win by two goals in order to win the title. With 90 minutes gone, Arsenal were up 1-0 when this happened:
And Arsenal were League Champions. Arsenal would have to wait until the 1990-91 season to find success again, and had to do so despite losing two points after a on-field brawl with Manchester United at Old Trafford, and losing Tony Adams for four months when he was sent to prison for drunk driving in December that year. However, they only lost one league match the entire year, and won the title by seven points. After signing Ian Wright from Crystal Palace in 1991 and losing David Rocastle to Leeds United the year after, Arsenal became known as ‘Boring, boring Arsenal’ depending on their stout defense and the goal-scoring prowess of Wright to win games. The FA Premier League was then created for the 1992-93 season, in which Arsenal were one of the founding members, and became the first club to win the FA Cup and League Cup double. The following year Arsenal won their second European trophy, defeating Parma 1-0 in the Cup Winner’s Cup final in Copenhagen.
Arsenal were forced to sack George Graham February 1995 when it was found he had taken an illegal payment of a player. Bruce Rioch took over at Arsenal, who guided Arsenal to the Cup Winner’s Cup Final, but lost to Real Zaragoza from a 40 yarder in the 120 minute; a howler by David Seaman. The summer of 1995 saw him Rioch sign Dutchman Dennis Bergkamp, breaking the English transfer recorded at the time. He was sacked just before the 1996 season over a dispute about the transfer funds. Arsenal then made the audacious and obscure decision to hire Frenchman Arsene Wenger from Nagoya Grampus Eight in Japan to manage their club. Wenger changed the club, completely eliminating the drinking culture that was prevalent at the time, changing the diets and training methods of the players, and brought about a change in tactics. Wenger brought in unknown players such as Patrick Vieira, Nicolas Anelka, Emmanuel Petit and Marc Overmars in 1997 and with George Graham’s noturious defense, Wenger became the first foreign manager to win the 1997-98 League title. Arsenal won the Double that year, winning the FA Cup. Ian Wright left that summer, having broken Cliff Bastin’s goalscoring record, his tally at Arsenal ending at 185 goals. The next few years were trophy-barren at Arsenal, despite signing Freddie Ljungberg and Thierry Henry. The rivalry with Manchester United fired up 1998-99 however as Arsenal finished 2nd in the League to United, and lost the FA Cup semi-final replay in extra time to them as well. The next season Arsenal again finished second best to Manchester United, this time by 18 points, and lost the EUFA Cup final in 0-0 game that went to penalties in Copenhagen to Galatasaray. The 2000-01 season saw Arsenal finish 2nd yet again to Manchester United, and lost in the FA Cup to Liverpool; as well as losing on the ‘away goals rule’ in the Champions league quarter-finals to eventual finalist Valencia.
The 2001-02 season became memorable as Arsenal’s furious attacking side lead by Thierry Henry won the Double for a record-tying third time. Arsenal were the only club to score in every game of the League that season, and went unbeaten away from home. They defeated Manchester United in the FA Cup, before also beating Chelsea in the finals. The 2002-03 was notable when Arsenal became the first club in over 20 years to retain the FA Cup title when they defeated Southampton in the final, but lost out on the League title to United losing their final game of the season at home to Leeds. That Last match day defeat to Leeds would become Arsenal’s last loss for over a year, and the 2003-04 season saw the rise of the ‘Invincibles’ where they won 26 and drew 12 matches, finishing 11 points clear of Chelsea in second place. Preston North End in 1888-89 is the only other team to have ever completed such a feat.
The following season Arsenal extended their unbeaten run to 49 consecutive League matches, an English league football record, when they finally lost to Manchester United. They failed to win the title that year as the newly cash rich Chelsea finished 12 points ahead, but managed to win the FA Cup for their 3rd time in four years. The 2005-06 season was largely disappointing, and Arsenal barely managed to obtain fourth place and their Champions League spot when St. Totteringham’s day came on the very last match day when Sp*rs lost to West Ham and Arsenal won their last ever match at Highbury stadium over Wigan. In the Champions League however, Arsenal made it the Finals against Barcelona, but a silly red card to keeper Jens Lehmann early in the match had Arsenal desperately defend a 1-0 lead for most of the game, before two late goals by Barca took the title away. Arsenal completed the move from historic Highbury to the Emirates stadium July 2006. Highbury was limited to only 38,500 seats after standing was banned in English football, and with the club unable to expand the stadium and needing to increase revenue streams to compete with money-giant clubs like Chelsea and Manchester United, a move down the road to Ashburton Grove was made. To facilitate the move in a manner that did not destroy the club financially, Arsene Wenger was forced to sell off highly paid stars and transition the club with youngsters, while still managing to be highly competitive and keep the fans into the massive 60,000+ stadium. Since the move Arsenal have stayed in the Champions League, qualifying for the competition for 14 years in a row, and have remained competitive in the Premier league, but ultimately collapsing the final months of the campaigns. December 11, 2011 saw Arsenal play at home and marked Arsenal’s 125 year in existence, and Arsenal celebrated the occasion the only way they know how; with style and class. The great-great-grandson of Fred Beardsley, the man who sourced the Arsenal original kit, assisted Vic Akers with the club’s kits and was brought onto the pitch in the pre-game ceremony. Supporters’ Stories were installed on benches outside the Armoury. A sixpence was thrown by referee Howard Webb at kick-off. Inside the players’ tunnel, celebrations of the 5-3 over Chelsea, and Henri Lansbury Sp*rs goal have been included on the walls. Arsenal had the Royal Artillery and Orchestra playing outside the stadium. The 1970s greats Bob Wilson, Charlie George, Frank McLintock, John Radford and Terry Neill were all introduced onto the Emirates pitch, followed by David O’Leary, Paul Davis, George Graham, Alan Smith, Anders Limpar and Ian Wright. Members of the Invincibles then took to the pitch, Ray Parlour, Robert Pires, Jens Lehmann, Lee Dixon, Lauren and Thierry Henry showed up. The great-grandchildren of founder David Danskin carried the matchball to begin the game. They even ensured there was a cannon alongside side the pitch.
Perhaps the best part of the weekend was the Friday prior, when Arsenal unveiled the statues of Herbert Chapman, Tony Adams and Thierry Henry outside the Stadium. So many greats could have been chosen, but it’s difficult to argue with the man who revolutionized football in the 1930s, the winning-est club captain, and the Arsenal’s record goal-scorer.
May there be more greatness to come for the beloved and storied club.
FA Cup Winners (10) 1930 Beat Huddersfield Town 2-0 1936 Beat Sheffield United 1-0 1950 Beat Liverpool 2-0 1971 Beat Liverpool 2-1 1979 Beat Manchester United 3-2 1993 Beat Sheffield Wednesday 2-1 1998 Beat Newcastle United 2-0 2002 Beat Chelsea 2-0 2003 Beat Southampton 1-0 2005 Beat Manchester Utd 5-4 on penalties (after 0-0 draw) 2014 Beat Hull City 3-1 (After Extra Time 2-2) 2015 Beat Aston Villa 4-0
League Cup Winners (2) 1987 Beat Liverpool 2-1 1993 Beat Sheffield Wednesday 2-1
European Nights 1970 European Fairs Cup winners beating Anderlecht of Belgium 4-3 on aggregate. 1980 Cup Winners� Cup finalists losing on penalties to Valencia of Spain in Brussels. 1994 Cup Winners� Cup winners beating Parma of Italy 1-0 in the final in Copenhagen. 1995 Cup Winners� Cup finalists losing 2-1 to Real Zaragoza of Spain after extra time in Paris. 2000 UEFA Cup finalists losing 4-1 on penalties to Galatasaray after a 0-0 draw and extra time in Copenhagen. 2006 UEFA Champions League finalists losing 2-1 to Barcelona of Spain in Paris.
Arsenal Ladies' Honours
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UEFA Women' Cup Winners 2007
National Premier League 1992/93, 1994/95, 1996/97, 2000/01, 2001/02, 2003/04, 2004/05, 2006/07
National League Cup 1992, 1993, 1994, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2005, 2007
WFA Cup 1993, 1995, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2004, 2007
FA Womens' Community Shield Winners (3+1 shared) 2000 (shared with Charlton Athletic), 2001, 2005, 2006
London County FA Women's Cup Winners (6) 1995, 1996, 1997, 2000, 2004, 2007 Beat Millwall 2-0
National League South 1991/92
London Senior Cup 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2004
Youth Honours
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FA Premier Youth League 1997/98
FA National Academy PLAY-OFF Final Under-17s: 1999/00 Under-19s: 2001/02
ronaldo cost 12 m pound ady in 2003 , is no surprise that now this young player cost 36 m pound. But i wont hope wenger do something like that~~ and now 100 m pound for sterling and de bruyne is looks more like a good deal compare to martial~~
QUOTE(ohhisee @ Sep 2 2015, 08:40 AM)
our team this season..
QUOTE(kazekage_09 @ Sep 2 2015, 08:48 AM)
Breaking news.
On the very last seconds of the transfer windows, Arsene Wenger just managed to secure 2 very prolific low profile strikers which are Fuk Kin No One and Own Gol Lie both on a free transfers which is believed to give Arsenal boost in their attacking department.
QUOTE(huzfah @ Sep 2 2015, 08:49 AM)
Giroud gonna be top scorer in 15/16
QUOTE(christ14 @ Sep 2 2015, 08:54 AM)
Just adding
i've been reading Arseblog.com for few years already. so.. u guys can have a funny read once in awhile. i dunno im always laughing at his posts anyway lol. got facebook also
but this is first time we defeat Chelsea and play convincingly against them
not sure if we improved or they deteriorated
Only 2nd to man city. We have better squad depth compared to Chelsea/united/Liverpool imo.
BTW guys, the market has now closed. No point arguing about something that didn't happen. Frustrated? Yes. Is there any use moaning here all day? No.
Don't act like our current squad is useless, crap etc. This is still the same squad that picked up most points in 2015, and we just added petr cech on top of that.
Season has just started. Let's get behind the team.
but this is first time we defeat Chelsea and play convincingly against them
not sure if we improved or they deteriorated
Truth is, we are not too shabby ourselves actually. And I bet there will be some exciting revelations as well. Gabriel has shown potential to outshine Per. The Ox if he plays like he did in preseason he will be a menace on the right flank.
Sorry man, I don't share the same optimism as you guys.
Its frustrating that every time when we have a seemingly strong platform to push off from Wenger chooses to remain stagnant. We are just two quality players short (another class DM to rotate with Coq and a world class striker) of being great IMO but once again Wenger's reluctance to add has left us being just a good team. Not great, just good.
I don't think we will even come close to winning the League even more so the Champions League. The domestic Cups is where we stand a good chance to win something again this season but even so I have my doubts.
True that for the first half of 2015 we were the team that collected the most points. But if you think based on that we will be alright you are sorely mistaken. Other teams has strengthened left, right and centre and already we have failed to collect 3 points from 2 fixtures we won with relative ease last season.
All the pre-season hopes and dreams that this could finally be our year turned to dust just like that
Head says we will struggle to another limp campaign but heart still hopes we can pull off an "Atletico".
COYG!
This post has been edited by sigheart: Sep 2 2015, 06:34 PM
chelsea have their defensive problems, man utd is man utd. liverpool is liverpool.
only city has the look of a complete squad.
i am positive but i dont think we'll mount a serious title challenge. i think 3rd would be the expectation for this squad.
it's a pity there's no real available world class striker on the market tho. liverpool had a poor squad but managed to mount a title challenge with their SASAS combo. i only see city and chelsea with a proper strikeforce, i'm not sure with man utd and liverpool.
Only 2nd to man city. We have better squad depth compared to Chelsea/united/Liverpool imo. BTW guys, the market has now closed. No point arguing about something that didn't happen. Frustrated? Yes. Is there any use moaning here all day? No.
Don't act like our current squad is useless, crap etc. This is still the same squad that picked up most points in 2015, and we just added petr cech on top of that.
Season has just started. Let's get behind the team.
I don't agree.
Yes, this is the same team that collected most points in 2015 BUT teams like MU, City, Chelsea & Liverpool have strengthen their squad convincingly.
The current team would be lucky if can finish 3rd/4th place this season in the league.
"Arsenal's Danny Welbeck 'out for months' after surgery on left knee"
For all that extra bit of flair we are known for with our style of football, the gods of football requested a continuous sacrifice to be thrown into the physio room. Abou Diaby selflessly offered himself all these while. Now that he's gone, someone will have to take his place. Be strong Welbeck, be strong.
hek eleh..iye je la tu welbek injured lg. coverline jer tu. welbek blah united psl nk main regular. mai london igt boleh jd regular. nengok2 jd pekasam wenger pulak. player x hepi, sound kat wenger. wenger plak rasa tercabar trus x bg main tp kelab takut fan ribut, tu pasal buat2 cerita injury recovery dia ada problemla, nk kena operation la, mcm2 la. injured sampai xmas pulak tu. Tau2 masuk Jan, kelab senyap2 offer kat kelab lain, undisclosed nego mcm kes Song.
btw i'd rather we spend nothing than wasting 36m pound on an unknown kid, that even our club capt had no idea who the f he is lol make me feel so ashamed being a mengyu fan
but he forgot to mention if our main striker and dm is injured, then we are left with no proper substitution
Striker is definitely an area we can improve. However I feel we are pretty sufficiently stocked there since we only need one starting at time due to our setup. Its just a matter on improving on quality. Without Welbeck at the very least Theo would be able to deputize and when push comes to shove Alexis may be able to fill that role.
As for DM.....Arteta/Flams if Coq gets injured. Game over IMO. lol
This post has been edited by sigheart: Sep 6 2015, 01:47 AM
kononjer those 3 players join club mahal2. join them jer terus jadi taik not used to playing good football. yg satu lagi from arsenal to fenerbahce. LOL
Dat Guy Welbz join Arsenal,terus jadi injury prone. LOL
Team lain menang dengan OG,said lucky,Team sendiri menang dengan OG,happy and "3 points is all that matters".
so mod, u deleted my post but u keep ur damn dupe from ur MUST thread here to jinx us whereas u are so careful and superstitious in your own thread ? well done
alien2003 dia cabar you. Also, don't know where he or the entire AST thread gotten the idea this Cassa guy is Utd fan.
play both la G and theo. G central theo right forward. it seems wenger is fond of having ramsey on the right, maybe to supplement bell for defensive purposes.
Tapi kan sometimes i felt like Giroud really helped us when it matter the most
I don't see any improvement in Walcott progress from the time he joined us. When he came the talk was he going to be the next Henry but he is no where close to that standard. Giroud even if he miss golden chances sometimes but he has presences on the pitch.The Martial guy looks like the real deal.
This post has been edited by JustcallmeLarry: Sep 13 2015, 03:14 AM
Alexis Sanchez really having 2nd season syndrom. Can't score any. His shots either direct hit GK, saved by the post and bar or taken credit by Own Goal. Yesterday, he lost the ball too many trying to keep it too long and dribbles. Opponents are starting to get used to his style.
Some best moments: 1) Conquelin's perfect interception on the ball that lead to Ozil's perfect long pass to Walcott's perfect run, outpaced the defender and scored.
2) Koscielny ran with the ball forward and hit thunderous long shot, stretching Butland to the saved.
3) Wenger's face when Giroud scored. It's like a "take that in your face, you doubters and haters" message.
Giroud is a hard worker but can't seem to progress more to become a clinical finisher. But playing Walcott as CF in one half and giroud in another is blessing in disguise. We get 2 different kind of offensive players playing in 2 halves and compete against each other.
Ramsey seems the automatic starter even though RW position is not his forte. In the absence of ozil, cazorla will be playing the AM role and Ramsey to play CM alongside Coquelin it seems. The Ox now to start only when ozil is unavailable
wenger seems to want ramsey to start every game possible, maybe to help him recapture his golden form. and he doesnt want to bench either ozil or cazorla, so ramsey ends up on the wings.
Coquelin was amazing yesterday, and deserving MOTM.OZIL just doing his routine, just give him some space, and like gps in his head, he route the ball in perfect direction. I m glad wenger choose him over fabregas,Walcott and giroud deserved the goal after recent criticism about our forward line. Too bad for Alex's dint get his craving goal yet. but there a lot of room to be improves.Our benchmark should be Manchester City though, not Chelsea.Hehe
I was yelling at Ramsey when he ballooned that shot. He's yet to find his form. Ox should have taken his place.
Alexis haven't found the net yet but he is a menace in the final third. He brings chaos to opponent's back line. He's getting closer to opening his account I tell ya.
Le Coq pops up whenever & wherever a threat starts to build up and diffuse the potential danger. A legend in the making if he stays this way season after season.
Own goal almost scored towards the end. But nobody is on form forever. Better luck next time.
a part from poor finishing, I have nothing really much to complain.. considering chelsea continuously kelong...pool don't know going where...well city is just displaying champions material, martial has a glimpse of Henry.
pool is just being pool....I don't even know what or how to begin with in terms of criticizing them. they invest alot but....
chelsea ah... they have one of the best managers in the world one of the best right back, best centre back super hazard to premium add on pedro to the beast matic...to super play maker fabregas..to top striker costa
and yet above all that some of them says squad not good enough need more or better signings...I tell you this sugar roman daddy thing makes people take finances for granted....it reaps the footy in them as a fan as a sane human...it definitely fkin clouds the mind.
do not want sugar daddy in arsenal..if it's inevitable please delay it as long as possible. I do not want our team to have insta premium team..it would completely destroy the normal way a fan should experience growing as a football fans/supporter.
truth or just blind hate...well this is my opinion...
next week altho we are fighting a wounded chelsea team...i am damn afraid..chelsea is currently pushed to the edge of the cliff...and there is only 1 direction left for them go..forward, humans when at the edge..they will bring the inner beast in them to play footy...our job is to push the beast down the cliff
Lol everyone cumming just from one good goal from Martial. Credit to him for scoring a really good goal but come on the next Henry? Please don't insult the King.
Januzaj the next Giggs, go even further back all the hype was on Macheda. Yawnz.
Lol everyone cumming just from one good goal from Martial. Credit to him for scoring a really good goal but come on the next Henry? Please don't insult the King.
Januzaj the next Giggs, go even further back all the hype was on Macheda. Yawnz.
A few seasons ago, yesterday game we would have drawn. Take the positives and move on. Quite pleased to see how fluid we played. Best game by far this season.
huhu next henry..similar story like henry? why must follow other club player..i think their club forwards also great..RVN,saha,CR,Giggs,nani,rooney,berba,RVP,yorke,cantona7,bekam,cole,ole gunner soldier,best,bebe oh wait etc.. ooo okay..titi also barca legend..okay can use now..
huhu next henry..similar story like henry? why must follow other club player..i think their club forwards also great..RVN,saha,CR,Giggs,nani,rooney,berba,RVP,yorke,cantona7,bekam,cole,ole gunner soldier,best,bebe oh wait etc.. ooo okay..titi also barca legend..okay can use now..
How many times we seen youngsters sink when burdened with all these expectations.
huhu next henry..similar story like henry? why must follow other club player..i think their club forwards also great..RVN,saha,CR,Giggs,nani,rooney,berba,RVP,yorke,cantona7,bekam,cole,ole gunner soldier,best,bebe oh wait etc.. ooo okay..titi also barca legend..okay can use now..
There is only 1 RVN,Louis Saha,CR,Ryan Giggs etc.
There's also only 1 Thierry Henry and 1 Anthony Martial.
Next game is chelsea. Hope we can secure 3 points again. Don't mind if Own Goal score again. But I feel it gonna be hard fought game with a lot of drama and controversy..
Dribbled past the most times: Cesc Fabregas – Chelsea (11) Branislav Ivanovic – Chelsea (10) Jonny Howson – Norwich (10) Juan Mata – Manchester United (10)
Committed the most fouls: Idrissa Gueye – Aston Villa (13) Valon Behrami – Watford (13) Nemanja Matic – Chelsea (12) Etienne Capoue – Watford (11) Fernandinho – Manchester City (11) James McCarthur – Crystal palace (11)
Caught offside the most times: Bafetimbi Gomis – Swansea (15) Graziano Pelle – Southampton (6) Mama Biram Diouf – Stoke (6) Wayne Rooney – Manchester United (5)
Most shots without a goal: Alexis Sanchez – Arsenal (28) --> He hasn't found the net yet, but some of his shots were very dangerous. Damn those woodwork & god mode keepers Memphis Depay – Manchester United (17) Harry Kane – Totenham (17) Jonjo Shelvey – Swansea (15) Troy Deeney – Watford (14)
Most unsuccessful dribbles: Jordan Amavi – Aston Villa (18) Diego Costa – Chelsea (15) Jefferson Montero – Swansea (15) Wilfried Zaha – Crystal Palace (14) Jeremain Lens – Sunderland (13)
Most losses of possession from poor touch: Callum Wilson – Bournemouth (19) Salomon Rondon – West Brom (19) Sadio Mane – Southampton (18) Diego Costa – Chelsea (17)
Most losses of possession from tackles: Memphis Depay – Manchester United (21) Aaron Ramsey – Arsenal (18) -- A bit surprised to see him above Sanchez in this category. Could have done better. Alexis Sanchez – Arsenal (16) -- Not surprised to see Sanchez here coz he takes on defenders regularly Harry Kane – Tottenham (16) David Silva – Manchester City (15)
Most inaccurate short passes: Christian Benteke – Liverpool (51) Troy Deeney – Watford (49) Aaron Ramsey – Arsenal (48) -- Again he could have done better here. Romelu Lukaku – Everton (48) Graziano Pelle – Southampton (47)
Most inaccurate crosses: Robbie Brady – Norwich (36) Dimitri Payet – West Ham (32) Dusan Tadic – Southampton (27) Memphis Depay – Manchester United (26) Matt Ritchie – Bournemouth (25)
could probably see the reason why ramsey hasnt been able to replicate his golden season, he tries too much to dictate attack ever since his return from injury, that he forgot his best ability is making late runs into goalscoring positions and ball winning.
Its not his fault he is being played out of position. Considering his limitations he is doing ok. Not bad, not good, just OK. And this is frustrating because we have the OX who is much more suited for the Right Wing.
It's the brilliant chemistry between Cazorla & Coq that puts Ramsey in quite a predicament. He is now in a situation where for every position left for him to play, there's arguably a better player for us to field.
He's not going to replace Sanchez, he's not going to replace Ozil. Now if Le Boss starts to trust The Ox, Ramsey could find himself relegated to the bench more often this season. Don't get me wrong - I'm not hating the man. But that's the situation he's in me thinks.
Anyways, the Boss still believe in him. And we all do hope he'll return to the glorious form he was in where he just can't stop scoring goals for us.
The only way Ramsey can recapture his glorious form is when he is played in the position in which he has shown his glorious form. Simples. You don't throw a square peg into a round hole and expect it to fit seamlessly.
I still believe Ramsey can recapture his old form too. But only if he is back to where he is most comfortable.
The boss has to choose between Santi or Aaron IMO.
I am still on the fence on this Santi/Coq partnership though. While most of the time they have looked good they were brutally exposed vs an energetic and mobile West Ham side and vs Liverpool, whose midfield consists of similar kind of players. All Santi could do defensively was to make a nuisance of himself and sometimes that just isn't enough, resulting in Coq having too much ground to cover by himself. The last time we saw a Ramsey/Coq partnership with Ox on the right wing, we put 5 goals past Lyon by the 62nd minute. I know its just a friendly, but it will be interesting to see how this works in a competitive match against decent opposition.
I don't know man somehow I feel the balance in the team at the moment isn't right.
The only logic i can think of Ramsey been in starting line up is he is our workhorse. He goes up, he goes down. He did both offensive and defensive jobs with his never end energy.
It is true his offensive quality isn't in the league of Ozil, Cazorla or Sanchez. Even Ox attacking ability is bit better than him but i doubt Ox have the same level of defensive ability as Ramsey.
With him, we have 5 attacking players (Giroud or Theo as CF; Ozil, Sanchez, Cazorla and him) when we have the ball. When we don't, we have atleast 6 good defensive players. Even being dispatched as RW he'll most always tracked down together with Coquelin to protect back 4 from being outnumbers. Giroud only doing defensive task during defending set-pieces, Theo,Ozil, Cazorla and Sanchez not really good at defending and sometimes don't even bother to track back. It is good to win the game but sometimes when a win is not possible, it is better not to lose it. To not win a game is hurting us, but to lose it, it hurt us most.
The only way Ramsey can recapture his glorious form is when he is played in the position in which he has shown his glorious form. Simples. You don't throw a square peg into a round hole and expect it to fit seamlessly.
I still believe Ramsey can recapture his old form too. But only if he is back to where he is most comfortable.
The boss has to choose between Santi or Aaron IMO.
I am still on the fence on this Santi/Coq partnership though. While most of the time they have looked good they were brutally exposed vs an energetic and mobile West Ham side and vs Liverpool, whose midfield consists of similar kind of players. All Santi could do defensively was to make a nuisance of himself and sometimes that just isn't enough, resulting in Coq having too much ground to cover by himself. The last time we saw a Ramsey/Coq partnership with Ox on the right wing, we put 5 goals past Lyon by the 62nd minute. I know its just a friendly, but it will be interesting to see how this works in a competitive match against decent opposition.
I don't know man somehow I feel the balance in the team at the moment isn't right.
QUOTE(HiperPanda @ Sep 14 2015, 11:01 PM)
The only logic i can think of Ramsey been in starting line up is he is our workhorse. He goes up, he goes down. He did both offensive and defensive jobs with his never end energy.
It is true his offensive quality isn't in the league of Ozil, Cazorla or Sanchez. Even Ox attacking ability is bit better than him but i doubt Ox have the same level of defensive ability as Ramsey.
With him, we have 5 attacking players (Giroud or Theo as CF; Ozil, Sanchez, Cazorla and him) when we have the ball. When we don't, we have atleast 6 good defensive players. Even being dispatched as RW he'll most always tracked down together with Coquelin to protect back 4 from being outnumbers. Giroud only doing defensive task during defending set-pieces, Theo,Ozil, Cazorla and Sanchez not really good at defending and sometimes don't even bother to track back. It is good to win the game but sometimes when a win is not possible, it is better not to lose it. To not win a game is hurting us, but to lose it, it hurt us most.
The fact that we have this kind of headache is actually a positive thing
i think the team got too many no.10 type of players d....we got ozil, santi, ramsey. wilshere all optimum role is at the same spot...ramsey cannot play dm due to weak holding but also cannot dribble pass...zzz
i think the team got too many no.10 type of players d....we got ozil, santi, ramsey. wilshere all optimum role is at the same spot...ramsey cannot play dm due to weak holding but also cannot dribble pass...zzz
At the peak of his form Ramsey is actually a good dribbler - you remember that 360 thingy he pulled off. But then again dribbling is not really his game. Well at least he is not in the 'Most dribbled past' category. Chelsea have 2 players in that category and MU have one.
But to see him in the 'most inaccurate short pass category' is a bit worrisome for a midfielder. He is not in top form currently obviously.
At the peak of his form Ramsey is actually a good dribbler - you remember that 360 thingy he pulled off. But then again dribbling is not really his game. Well at least he is not in the 'Most dribbled past' category. Chelsea have 2 players in that category and MU have one.
But to see him in the 'most inaccurate short pass category' is a bit worrisome for a midfielder. He is not in top form currently obviously.
I like to read ur reply. So insightful. And from those stats, really love it.
I'm looking forward for Ramsey / Coq partnership in the middle as well. He is better than Santi for that position, IMO.
IMO we suck on left side..lucky we sign alexis last season..and improvement from nachos(try harder,gibbs)..rambo look need more time than others to start playing good..
At the peak of his form Ramsey is actually a good dribbler - you remember that 360 thingy he pulled off. But then again dribbling is not really his game. Well at least he is not in the 'Most dribbled past' category. Chelsea have 2 players in that category and MU have one.
But to see him in the 'most inaccurate short pass category' is a bit worrisome for a midfielder. He is not in top form currently obviously.
thats why i printed him on my jersey lor...print liao straight no ohm
At the peak of his form Ramsey is actually a good dribbler - you remember that 360 thingy he pulled off. But then again dribbling is not really his game. Well at least he is not in the 'Most dribbled past' category. Chelsea have 2 players in that category and MU have one.
But to see him in the 'most inaccurate short pass category' is a bit worrisome for a midfielder. He is not in top form currently obviously.
TBH I don't find that surprising at all but expected really.
Like I said he is being played out of position. You don't expect a square peg to fit into a round hole seamlessly.
You move a natural central midfielder onto the wing you literally cut down his passing options by half, whether it be directional or in terms of passing options, its pretty obvious his accuracy will suffer. The reason why he is attempting so many short passes being played out wide right is even more worrying than him being inaccurate IMO. You would expect a wide player to be crossing the ball more often rather than making short passes. But a player has to have the ability to get behind or beat his man by cutting inside before he is able to deliver a cross. Ramsey simply can't do all these.
Its no coincidence that when Wenger moved Santi to the left upon the arrival of Ozil, Santi was practically crap till he was moved back to the center.
And it was also no coincidence when Santi was moved back to the center Arsene experimented by chucking Ozil on the left and that spell was probably his worst games in an Arsenal shirt. I don't think I need to even explain how good Ozil has been since moving back to the center.
Sorry but as long as Ramsey is played on the right I just don't see him recapturing his golden form ever again.
Of course there are exceptions and I'd be happy to be proven wrong. Like Monreal. His stint as a CB actually took his positioning and awareness levels to a whole new level. Easily our best LB now since Cashley.
TBH I don't find that surprising at all but expected really.
Like I said he is being played out of position. You don't expect a square peg to fit into a round hole seamlessly.
You move a natural central midfielder onto the wing you literally cut down his passing options by half, whether it be directional or in terms of passing options, its pretty obvious his accuracy will suffer. The reason why he is attempting so many short passes being played out wide right is even more worrying than him being inaccurate IMO. You would expect a wide player to be crossing the ball more often rather than making short passes. But a player has to have the ability to get behind or beat his man by cutting inside before he is able to deliver a cross. Ramsey simply can't do all these.
Its no coincidence that when Wenger moved Santi to the left upon the arrival of Ozil, Santi was practically crap till he was moved back to the center.
And it was also no coincidence when Santi was moved back to the center Arsene experimented by chucking Ozil on the left and that spell was probably his worst games in an Arsenal shirt. I don't think I need to even explain how good Ozil has been since moving back to the center.
Sorry but as long as Ramsey is played on the right I just don't see him recapturing his golden form ever again.
Of course there are exceptions and I'd be happy to be proven wrong. Like Monreal. His stint as a CB actually took his positioning and awareness levels to a whole new level. Easily our best LB now since Cashley.
The issue with Ramsey right now is, he is somewhat limiting the opportunity for The Ox to show what he is capable of. From what we've seen (in the preseason especially), The Ox can be a wonderful player on the flank. Ramsey is a more industrious player than The Ox is that's for sure. And we've seen The Ox being lazy to track back. But his tendency to stay wide is like a breath of fresh air at Arsenal where most wide players most likely would cut inside. He also provide powerful pace, sends in crosses, and he takes on defenders in the final third. This very different skill-set between the two is interesting. The argument is not who is better between the two. But rather if The Ox is the round peg available for the round hole why are we playing the square peg more.
The issue with Ramsey right now is, he is somewhat limiting the opportunity for The Ox to show what he is capable of. From what we've seen (in the preseason especially), The Ox can be a wonderful player on the flank. Ramsey is a more industrious player than The Ox is that's for sure. And we've seen The Ox being lazy to track back. But his tendency to stay wide is like a breath of fresh air at Arsenal where most wide players most likely would cut inside. He also provide powerful pace, sends in crosses, and he takes on defenders in the final third. This very different skill-set between the two is interesting. The argument is not who is better between the two. But rather if The Ox is the round peg available for the round hole why are we playing the square peg more.
Well sometimes need to see how Arsene play his tactic.
By implementing players like Ramsey, Ozil and Santi on left right flank will not bring their best out, do note that the attacking flow will be concentrated in the center of the park together with the ball feeding to Giroud and Sanchez.
Likewise, we have speed demons like Bellerin, Theo, Ox, or maybe Sanchez who can distracted opponent's flank to create space in the middle.
Different opponent have different formation and style to play with. Just don't expect we are still in the Invincible era where Henry Ljunbery Pires can run from their flanks or just focus everything in the middle.
The current team offers Arsene better varieties and flexibility to tweak.
Anyhow, it's tired to see players getting months and months of injury and come back later, don't remember since when we had an injury free season...
Dinamo Zagreb are essentially the Croatian version of the Arsenal Invincibles - last season, they became the first team to win the Croatian top division without losing a single game, and therefore will provide tough opposition.
The issue with Ramsey right now is, he is somewhat limiting the opportunity for The Ox to show what he is capable of. From what we've seen (in the preseason especially), The Ox can be a wonderful player on the flank. Ramsey is a more industrious player than The Ox is that's for sure. And we've seen The Ox being lazy to track back. But his tendency to stay wide is like a breath of fresh air at Arsenal where most wide players most likely would cut inside. He also provide powerful pace, sends in crosses, and he takes on defenders in the final third. This very different skill-set between the two is interesting. The argument is not who is better between the two. But rather if The Ox is the round peg available for the round hole why are we playing the square peg more.
Hence the Godson nickname for Ramsey.
But TBH I'd rather have Ramsey as the box-to-box CM option rather than Cazorla playing alongside Coq with Ozil of course the number 10 behind the striker. Don't get me wrong, by preferring Ramsey alongside Coq it doesn't mean that I am saying Ramsey is the better player.
I think Cazorla is a fabulous player, but Ramsey offers more balance overall if you take into account his ability to track back, to support the attack when needed, and most importantly, he has the engine to be a proper box to box midfielder. Plus the timing of his late runs into the box is fantastic, hence why he got a lot of goals during his golden season with us because of all the good positions he finds himself in making those perfectly timed late runs into the box from midfield. Cazorla definitely trumps Ramsey going forward and in linkup play but he offers absolutely zero in defending, and when Coq cannot cover Cazorla's defensive deficiencies, we get overrun ala vs West Ham and vs Pool.
Behind the striker is where Cazorla belongs, as the the number 10, BUT we have Ozil for that.
In addition to that, Ramsey has also repeatedly stated that he is not the most comfortable being played wide right. Ramsey isn't limiting the opportunities of the Ox. Its Wenger by playing Ramsey there to accommodate Cazorla thus forcing the OX to make way. In fact it wouldn't be a surprise to me if Wenger actually promised Santi a central starting role to make him stay amid strong interest from Atletico Madrid over the past 2 transfer windows.
The OX has actually been tracking back more of late, as shown in the Community Shield match vs Chelsea. I thought he bailed Bellerin out quite a bit, double teaming and shutting Hazard down. He worked pretty hard vs Newcastle on the defensive side of things as well. The one bad habit he has which cost us dear against West Ham, second goal IIRC and of course the third goal Monaco scored last year was his tendency to try and play himself out of trouble in dangerous positions and he loses the ball. But this can be taught IMO.
But at the end of the day I support the Arsenal and I want us to do well. I will be glad to be proven wrong. If somehow Ramsey suddenly turns into a Right Wing monster destroying defenses and Santi suddenly picks up a thing or two about being a midfield destroyer from Coq, I'd be the happiest Gooner ever to be proven wrong.
This post has been edited by sigheart: Sep 16 2015, 02:31 AM
hahahahahahahahahaha!! mana budak 'bandar' tu yg suruh gunners fan beware dgn team dia. kat domestic bukan main rancak, pulun score. pi europe sebijik pun tarak.. harapkan own goal jugak. takkan belanja bilion bilion takat nak jd jaguh kampung jer kut. main homeground weiii..
Seriously?He suffered a freaking serious injury and making a joke out of him and selling him? You should focus more on your club than rivals' clubs.Obsessed.
It's ok. It's not like there's anything special with Shaw anyways. Put blind or anyone also can. Just put some crosses in and wait for fellaini and rooney to head the ball in. LOL
Jeez,no sympathy at all?!This is where you freaking put rivalries aside.
Brings back memories of similarly horrible injuries to Ramsey and Eduardo. Definitely one of their best players too. Wishing him a speedy recovery.
You forgot Diaby too. I think all these players who committed this type of foul should be ban heavily, this is career threatening tackles. Everyone also makan gaji kerja saje....need to go to the limit meh
Most shots (per game) Arsenal – 22.4 --> Our rate of conversion is not quite there yet but you won't get goals if you don't shoot Bayern Munich – 21.3 Real Madrid – 21 Roma – 19.3 Napoli – 19.3 (This is a stark contrast to those seasons where we would just circle the penalty box without anyone wanting to pull the trigger and or putting in crosses (Those Alex Hleb years). I'm loving the fact that we are shooting a lot these days)
Highest possession Bayern Munich – 68.9% Barcelona – 65.3% Celta Vigo – 63.2% Paris St Germain – 62.2% Arsenal – 62% --> It's not a surprise we are top 5 in this category
Highest Premier League team: Newcastle United – 15.6 Players (must have played at least 100 minutes to qualify)
Most shots (per game) Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid) – 7.7 Lorenzo Insigne (Napoli) – 6 Alexis Sanchez (Arsenal) – 5.6 --> This macha is getting ever closer to opening his account Martin Braithwaite (Toulouse) – 5.4 Thomas Muller (Bayern Munich) – 5.3
Most tackles (per game) Augusto Fernandez (Celta Vigo) – 6.3 Mehdi Lacen (Getafe) – 5.7 Keko (Eibar) – 5.7 Jean –Daniel Akpa-Akpro (Toulouse) – 5.4 Marten de Roon (Atalanta), Miguel Lopes (Granada) – 5.3
Highest Premier League player: Francis Coquelin (Arsenal), Jordan Amavi (Aston Villa), Patrick van Aanholt (Sunderland), Ritchie de Laet (Leicester) – 4.4
(Master Enforcer Le Coq is not quite top 5 here but he is definitely one of the top ones in BPL)
Most chances created (per game) --> Top 2 among the Top 5 leagues... hell yeah Mesut Ozil (Arsenal) – 5 Santi Cazorla (Arsenal) – 4.6 Fran Rico (Granada) – 4 Dusan Tadic (Southampton), Abdel Barrada (Marseille), Wahbi Khazri (Bordeaux) – 3.8
Most passes (per game) Marco Verratti (PSG) – 109.8 Andreu Fontas (Celta Vigo) – 101.3 Thiago Motta (PSG) – 99.2 Granit Xhaka (Mochengladbach) – 96.7 Santi Cazorla (Arsenal) – 92.8 --> Our deep lying playmaker. One of the top ones again
You forgot Diaby too. I think all these players who committed this type of foul should be ban heavily, this is career threatening tackles. Everyone also makan gaji kerja saje....need to go to the limit meh
Oh yeah Diaby. You'll have to excuse me there coz I almost don't remember us having a player named Abu Diaby
watching sevilla vs gladbach at astro notice jose antonio reyes is still playing..guy is 32
after he left us, he fail his loan at real Madrid, fail his time at atl madrid, benfica and now at sevilla
stupid fellar...home sick but can't perform back at his own country his most successful career is his time with us
yup..but dont care much because we got many good players.. but if he stay i dont think arsenal cant guarantee his development continue to higher level..look our youth..look aliedere,pennant,bendtner,larrson etc..
player that play only a few month in one season.. but wenger will keep him just like vassiriki D..
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Mikel Arteta says the Arsenal squad must support Jack Wilshere and ensure he doesn't lose confidence in his ability and "waste his talent" after yet another injury blow.
The midfielder will undergo surgery on a hairline fracture of his left leg, with the operation set to keep him out for three months.
It is the latest in a long line of setbacks that have seen Wilshere miss close to 1000 days of football since he made his debut for the club in 2008, but Arteta says all the club is behind him.
He told Arsenal's official website: "Jack unfortunately has had a lot of setbacks and a lot of difficult moments through his career but he’s shown a lot of character and enthusiasm to get back.
“I’m sure it’s a very disappointing time but he needs to use this time to prove that he can get back. He has an enormous talent, he has support from every department at the club, from the players because we feel sorry for him and we know that we cannot waste his talent.
“He’s got an amazing career in front of him and I think we are responsible for putting that into his head every day and not allowing him to fall down.
"At some stage, I think that’s where the danger is - that he doesn’t believe himself or his body. He needs to trust himself.”.
Jack is destined to only play some cameos for us sadly. A very good player who will never feature heavily for us. We have successfully fixed Rosicky from his problem but his was a muscular problem if I recalled correctly. For brittle bones cases like Diaby and Wilshere... I don't know if we can fix that.
p/s: Alang alang mau pasang steel plate kasi pasang satu badan terus la baru tak patah lagi
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"We were not at our best, but nor was the referee tonight.
"The first yellow is Giroud's fault because he protested, even if it was not a foul against him. But after he should not have responded to the referee.
"The second yellow card, he is unlucky to touch the guy - he did not see him. It was accidental completely, but it happened.
"I don't understand the referee. It has to be on purpose, a foul on purpose. Then the referee should have given many yellows tonight."
1. Giroud has just slotted himself below Walcott in the pecking order with that kind of display & attitude. 2. The Ox didn't take his opportunity to outshine Ramsey playing on the flank. 3. Arteta is nothing special compared to Le Coq. 4. Debuchy & Gibbs are a Carling cup pair.
We are used to seeing the team being complacent but this time I think it was the manager who was complacent fielding a Carling cup team in a UCL match. No team should be taken for granted in UCL.
Well, to be fair, on paper and before the match starts, it is a good team we put on the field. Its just that they were not giving enough and AW did not react creative enough to cater the loss of Giroud.
It is becoming more apparent now that resting Le Coq is never an option. He is the bullet proof vest protecting our soft underbelly. The steel core to our flamboyant style of football. We do need another Le Coq to cover our Le Coq.
Sorry guys but these people don't deserved first team at all.
debuchy bising bising so arsene give him a chance. Gibbs supposed to be good but maybe rusty. Arsene is too good, owes give their player a chance but sendiri kena in the end.
Dinamo Zagreb coach Zoran Mamic has thanked West Ham manager Slaven Bilic for helping his countrymen with information on Arsenal.
The Croatians recorded a famous 2-1 win over Arsenal last night and it was their first victory in the group stage of the Champions League since 1999.
Arsenal were favourites to win the game, but Olivier Giroud’s sending off helped the home side to overcome Arsene Wenger’s men at the Stadion Maksimir.
Mamic was delighted with the result and credited his players for putting in the hard yards, which helped them to beat the more fancied English side.
dont know what to say actually...i think there's a bunch of players struggling for forms....frontline left Giroud and Theo doesnt look good at all though...Alexis also misfiring a lot but he got the determination to come back judging from his playing time on the field...
Sorry guys but these people don't deserved first team at all.
Arteta came with high reputation hen he first arrived. In fact one of the best midfielders in epl while playing for everton. Age has catching him up and injuries doesn't help either. He was AM and 'custom made' by AW to become DM which is not his strength. But with abundance of creative midfielders now we have where else to slot him in the team.
Arteta came with high reputation hen he first arrived. In fact one of the best midfielders in epl while playing for everton. Age has catching him up and injuries doesn't help either. He was AM and 'custom made' by AW to become DM which is not his strength. But with abundance of creative midfielders now we have where else to slot him in the team.
Are u sure hes AM at everton?
I always see him playing...he likes to play deep in Midfield... And spray long passes...
Hate to say it but I have been moaning all summer about DM being a priority over a striker which was of course an unpopular opinion since everyone wanted to see Benz or Cavani in the red and white.
Now you see why.
Walcott and Giroud are both good strikers, not the best but good enough to get the job done majority of games.
Arteta, sadly has declined to the point where he should be in the US or Middle East serving his retirement. Flamini also. I've said it before and I will say it again, Coq gets injured and that will spell the end of our season.
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Hate to say it but I have been moaning all summer about DM being a priority over a striker which was of course an unpopular opinion since everyone wanted to see Benz or Cavani in the red and white.
Now you see why.
Walcott and Giroud are both good strikers, not the best but good enough to get the job done majority of games.
Arteta, sadly has declined to the point where he should be in the US or Middle East serving his retirement. Flamini also. I've said it before and I will say it again, Coq gets injured and that will spell the end of our season.
come to think of it, dm is a position with players available
but we didn't get them
maybe sometimes we should really succumb to the market pressure a little bit and spend Abit more on a really crucial position
Both flankers were not regulars and lack competitive match. Then arteta to shield our defence. Then ospina as our GK. When Gabriel himself deputised Per. Only Kos is a first choice starter.
i don't blame arteta,gibbsy and debuchy much because they not even regularly play..its normal to wenger to rotate his team and use benchwarmers to play in early stage of any competition..
But what even more shocking, this season our fans, man u and chelsea fans all seem not confident with their team right now lol.
I would love to see this line up tonight
Cech Bellerin kos gab monreal Le coq Ox cazorla alexis Ozil Giroud
Dont know if per available or not. If yes, I prefer him than gab
First goal is the key. I dont mind we win ugly. Dont mind our Own Goal score again. Exploit their back 4 with pace from ox and alexis. Then late in the game introduce theo for pace to mess with their defence tired legs
i don't blame arteta,gibbsy and debuchy much because they not even regularly play..its normal to wenger to rotate his team and use benchwarmers to play in early stage of any competition..
For Gibbs and Debuchy maybe. But sorry Arteta is way way past it already.
But then again when you talk about Debuchy and Gibbs, these are two players fighting for a first team spot and not too long ago Debuchy even came out and said he thought of leaving because he lost his place. I'm sorry but if this is the best you can do trying to prove you are first team material then perhaps he should have left because no way in hell is he ever taking back that RB spot from Bellerin with that sort of performance.
For Gibbs and Debuchy maybe. But sorry Arteta is way way past it already.
But then again when you talk about Debuchy and Gibbs, these are two players fighting for a first team spot and not too long ago Debuchy even came out and said he thought of leaving because he lost his place. I'm sorry but if this is the best you can do trying to prove you are first team material then perhaps he should have left because no way in hell is he ever taking back that RB spot from Bellerin with that sort of performance.
yup agreed..i think debuchy look solid before his injuries and that make wenger no choice to promote hector..debuchy now need prove himself again to be in lineup..or who know he playing bad to make wenger sell him hehe..
maybe last year for arteta and for gibbs, i think wenger should find better player to fight with nacho not him..
It is understandable that Debuchy is scared that he might lost his place in Euro squad, and with his age. This might be the last Euro for him and with that fact, he should performed better. Tonight, Bellerin will get the nod again.
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Several reasons why we should go get all the 3 points We'll destroy that Mourinho's Chelsea mental block We'll regain some morale boost after the Croatian fiasco We'll keep Citeh within our sights We'll condemn Chelsea to the deepest of caves
Seriously, why wenger still want to start with giroud? Im pretty worried because giroud had no pace at all n will make chelsea cb make a high line and they can press us higher and finally scoring the important or 2nd goal.
If we introduce walcott to chase the game, it will be futile as the yokohoma tyre bus already parked nicely and they can counter/ set piece us easily. Terry n cahill will mark walcot out of the game.
so my suggestion, like wenger alreasy did in the community shield, start with walcott, ping their defensive line back, or else ozil, sanchez and walcot even the ox will punish them. If we score first let walcot or atleast ox still in the team for counter attacking football, if we do lead, after 70min juz sub out walcott for giroud, and defend like they did in the community shield.
I cant remember when did we lose while having walcott as a starter?