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 Beware of Member: Lehrry (sound like scammer), Name : Kayson Tan, 016-6906969/010-91039

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Lehrry
post Aug 27 2015, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Aug 27 2015, 01:25 PM)
TL;DR..........

Thumb of rule is, buyer pay 1st then seller confirm received payment only send item.

In this case, Lehrry probably request for post 1st because he sked he might kena scammed.
Theoretically, thats what buyer wants ofcourse... buyer also sked kena scammed right?
So i cant say who is wrong (asking payment 1st or send item 1st)...

Best way is to do COD, or thru a proxy person (i could suggest via apis_lualua).
Buyer make payment to proxy (proxy hold money 1st) and seller ship item to buyer.
Once buyer confirm receive item then proxy send the money to seller.

Thats all my 2cent.
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Yeap the rule is buyer pay first before post, i agree with u, but now is the seller find me back first, let me give u some example, im a phone seller i guess u know too, let say im a buyer for faulty phone if someone come and offer u a faulty phone, should i pay first or received phone first? But if u cant accept then just deal off only and u check on our whatsapp , i did ask him can u post it today? If yes i can bank in anytime, he cant even answer me question until now
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post Aug 27 2015, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(MIKE9795 @ Aug 27 2015, 01:18 PM)
Ok, but you buyer, he is seller that time...

But this time he is buyer and he request me to post first without paying anything...
Can you see the points or not?
Two different scenario here, may be that time he posted to you, but also pay him first right, before he will posted it at post offiece, right? How about if u ask him to post first, will he accept and post as per your instruction, i don't think so...
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This time im buyer, but u the one finding me back and asking me still interested or not, different scenario?
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post Aug 27 2015, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Aug 27 2015, 01:29 PM)
To be fair, anyone can also be scammer.
Doesnt mean he/she done few genuine transaction and confirm wont scam next time.
Even for someone like myself, sometimes i do request seller (new members) to send item 1st before i pay.
What do u think am i femes enough and wont scam?
Well iinm so far nobody ever send me item 1st b4 i pay...... and oh ya, other way around i wont send item 1st before get payment even the buyer is femes and done alot transaction.
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Anyone can be scammer, yes he might too, i ask him to post first for my safety too, since he the one finding me back, and one more thing u need to see clearly, he rejected to post me first and ask me to bank in first, look all conversation, i did mention to him if u can post today, i can bank in anytime.. So what now? Scammer alert if i can bank in anytime? He cant even reply this question and also how many my previously customer feedback on here. He just want to win
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post Aug 27 2015, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(nghj @ Aug 27 2015, 01:55 PM)
if you think he as seller find you first and should send the item to you first then you pay, just dont buy when seller refuse la.

why you try so hard to convince him that you will pay with all the feedback thing?
And actually feedback means very little. feedback is just a response to a PREVIOUS transaction.
it can be positive, but it is only for REFERENCE.
it DOES NOT give you any right to ask for anything.
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It does not, so he rejected, then i offer for 2nd deal, to ask him if he can post today, i can bank in anytime, now he is the one not understand, and straight calling me scammer
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post Aug 27 2015, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(nghj @ Aug 27 2015, 01:55 PM)
if you think he as seller find you first and should send the item to you first then you pay, just dont buy when seller refuse la.

why you try so hard to convince him that you will pay with all the feedback thing?
And actually feedback means very little. feedback is just a response to a PREVIOUS transaction.
it can be positive, but it is only for REFERENCE.
it DOES NOT give you any right to ask for anything.
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Pls refer to my thread as well, then u know bro
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post Aug 27 2015, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(MIKE9795 @ Aug 27 2015, 02:00 PM)
Thats why,

he seems like not understand it,

Yes, I am the one find him back to offer whether he still interested or not, he can say don't want or no, right?

But he interested at the end and start to ask for discount, and then when I sleep already, then he confirm around 1.32 am and ask if postage can be done to JB, then 4.37 ask again to post first and he will pay later when he wake up... what type of the excuse he use, u see....

He no heart to buy one lah, wake up so late around 1.00pm something ask me whether already post out or not, what type of buyer he is, so ridiculous and treat me like what "stupid" is it...
Also keep mention i can bank in anytime, but i need to post first by today...how to convince me like that...

Really like kids ask for item for free...
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Pls show that i mention u, i can bank in anytime, BUT u need to post first, pls show me.. Or i say if u can post today, i can bank in anytime, it different

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post Aug 27 2015, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(ancientguy2 @ Aug 27 2015, 02:04 PM)
Me thinks, even if Mike call you first offer to sell, that does not mean Mike has to post first. Anyway no wrong for Lehrry just tried your luck and if Mike disagrees, Mike can just counter-propose another transaction-delivery method....

But then, Mike keep harping on every post how Lehrry dont sleep ,post PMs late night...why is this even an issue , Mike can just answer later at his  convenience.  Nobody demands that  PMs need to be read and answered as soon as he received it.

And then, Mike say  Lehrry offer only 2 hrs window (1-3pm) to post the item,  but Mike could have simply said he cant do it on such short notice and counterpropose a another transaction/delivery time/method.

Why make big issue of post-first suggestion, PM timing and apparent short notice bla bla..... Mike can just refuse, counter-propose or even cancel his offer instead of making fuss over misunderstanding.
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One more thing u can refer to my thread and know more
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post Aug 27 2015, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(MIKE9795 @ Aug 27 2015, 02:03 PM)
don't argue la kids, admit your samseng talk and style, don't do dealing with people like this anymore, learn from mistakes pls...learn how to talk nicely...
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Nah, refer to my thread and see who talk more nicely
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post Aug 27 2015, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(MIKE9795 @ Aug 27 2015, 02:15 PM)
Why your thread always being closed by the moderator one, yesterday like that, today also like that, but yesterday one is deleted, but today one is locked...

You are really good...a thumb for your good hard work during midnight...
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Yes it because we got same topics, moderator will merge it together
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post Aug 27 2015, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(nghj @ Aug 27 2015, 02:18 PM)
to be fair, you could have just withdraw the sales, not drag so far in the end that you also post impolite words.
dont care who started bad mouthing, once that other party retaliate, both also the same downgrading themselves.
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And i did call him to try settle personally, he dont even talk to me just playing music around, so? What i going to do?
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post Aug 27 2015, 02:21 PM

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Latest message from him on whatsapp few mins ago?

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post Aug 27 2015, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(kopiride @ Aug 27 2015, 02:22 PM)
nah, you are at fault. Irregardless he pm you first or what, you as a buyer MUST pay first before people ship their stuff. You go online buy things or supermarket can say you take first tomorrow come back pay? He has been kind to keep repeating for you to pay first. If you can't then you should just say you dont want buy already.

Goodbye.
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Yes, so he rejected my offer, so i made 2nd offer, pls refer to my thread then u know ok?
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post Aug 27 2015, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(pohhang @ Aug 27 2015, 02:22 PM)
by right should make a payment to seller first, then seller can pos goods to buyer.. if buyer have no time to collect it. then its buyer problem, not seller...

it doesn’t matter the word 'if u can post today then i can bank in anytime' as long as seller didn’t receive any payment from buyer, seller have the right to not to pos goods to buyer.

if buyer cannot make a payment by today, its a buyer problem, cannot expect seller to pos goods to buyer without recieve payment first. Seller also need to protect its own interest.
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That why im asking a confirmation from him, can u make post by today? If can, i can bank in anytime, but if cant what for i bank in? He just reply pay first pay first i go post now and not confirm me a time, pls refee to my thread then u know

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