I just wonder if i had bought myself a fake protein, as i notice the powder taste quite differently, the old one from muscle mania taste more coffee while the new one is more chocolate feel...

Also the fineness of powder are kinda different by a lil bit... Any one could help from noticing the difference in packaging too?


The one i bought from Muscle Mania months ago....







This is the recent one i bought from a store in Alor Star mall...

cant u see the red sticker line on top images?new improved formula...thats the new whey and the one below is the old packaging and old fomula i think..

Just click the picture and you can view it in full size...

Yeah.. but that one was manufact earlier than the one i just bought. So i feel kinda weird...

A- Manufactured 2014, New taste formula
B- Manufactured 2015, Nothing

This post has been edited by Darkripper: Aug 25 2015, 10:33 AM

new tase and formula means better taste and finer texture i think...it will be fine..i thought the old one no longer being sell at store...i always get the whey with new formula one

You can contact dymatize, send them clear pics of your tub, especially the Lot# and expiry date and flavour.

Yup agree with others contact dynamtize to confirm.

international@dynamtize.com

Get the lot no and attach pictures with your concern.

This post has been edited by aaronpang: Aug 25 2015, 01:12 PM

Already did emailed them... but no reply yet.. so in the meanwhile just want to ask here to see if anyone notice the packaging lor.... Cause my suspicion were that they removed some of logo at the back (recognition type).

Will update you all once get reply... Hopefully i am drink protein and not some stupid filler

There are some taste differences in the old dymatize and new dymatize (improved formula). The new formula tasted so bad that I stop using dymatize. Old one tasted so much better (comparing rich choco flavour)

Sad, dymatize seems to ignore my email.... gg

It's been 1 week? Send a follow up email.

Since 25th Aug, sent 1 dy... but seems like they are very selowwwwww...

Buy protein also sked now... = =

which store may i ask? mmc?

My ISO-100 bought earlier this year (Sept 2014 mfr) had the New Improved Taste band at the top of the label.

The one I just bought yesterday (Dec 2014 mfr) didn't have the New Improved Taste band so maybe they have stopped using that tagline on their labels around oct-nov 2014.


btw, that mocha flavour sounds delicious, have to try that sometime.

This post has been edited by todak: Sep 4 2015, 10:44 PM

For supplement, better to buy from a reputable seller or store.

seriously, people can fake/replicate very complex watch mechanism.

how hard is it to fake a choco powder?

havent you read news of the fake milo?

body building supplements are multi billion dollar business.

eat whole food protein instead

This post has been edited by ah_suknat: Sep 12 2015, 01:40 PM

Dude. They changed the flavour, tastes like shit now

update?

No reply or whatsoever from the person. So i moved on and just eat the protein. So far nothing abnormal, just hope it was real protein lol...

Any update?

Can MMC be trusted? I plan to buy ON products from them instead of GNC.

Yeah bro. Last week I just bought one from them.

MMC definitely can be trusted... Just the price also abit more expensive compared to smaller store

any other store in Klang Valley that sells real sh*t and cheapper than MMC?

bro, they can be trusted as they are the official distributor of Dymatize in Malaysia.
i've bought 2 tubs Dymatize ISO-100 from them, no problem.
Recently, due to salmonella found in Dymatize products in US, MMC stop bringing them in awhile until Dymatize USA resolve this problem.

So i bought MuscleTech Iso Zero from MMC, tastes SUPERB!

Not to say NO to GNC but their prices are hiked up 50%!

How much you got it for MuscleTech Iso Zero? Does it contain alot of fillers?

fillers for me is no no!
iso zero comes in unflavoured and vanilla.

the vanilla ingredients: 97% pure whey protein isolate, natural flavour, soy lechitin and stevia extract.
i am abit bumped with the soy lechitin tho.
25g protein per serving of 28g, i think this is one of the best out there!
0 calories from fat, 0g total fat, 0g sugars
bot it at rm215 (3lbs) from MMC not including shipping... which reminds me i need restock...

what others would you recommend?
cos now dymatize iso 100 no stock, i just iso zero first.

I just did a quick search on Muscle Tech Iso Zero. Seems to not have much fillers. Not that I could identify at least.

Kinda pricey eh MYR215 for 3lbs.

I am currently taking ON Whey Protein. Isolates are kinda expensive for me. Maybe you should try ON Whey Isolates?

Btw, is there a substantial difference in results compared to taking normal whey protein?

YES it is pricey for a medium sized tub, LAGI MAHAL IF HOUSEHOLD, 3 PERSON DRINKING!

To me, since it is something that is going into my system, if i can afford, i will give it my best.
For starters, avoid unnecessary crap like Acesulfame Potassium.
Then if possible, buy isolates as it is a more pure form of protein.
If got extra moolah to throw in, get hydrolysate for faster absorption but this i not so bother hahaha.
Then look at nutrition wise, got fat? no no but then no fat expensive so maximum fat i allow is 1g.

Can't really say if there is substantial difference because so far only tried 2 brands of similiar ingredients....
Currently, i am on low to no fat (unhealthy ones, mind you) makan diet so this protein does not disturb.

This post has been edited by jess7: Nov 5 2015, 10:18 AM

LOL...I been using ON Gold Standard Whey Protein... Its pricey for me as well since I take 2 scoops a day... Can finish 5lbs tub in 1 month and 1 week? cost about MYR210.

But one thing is for such, double rich chocolate flavor from ON is top notch. Taste even better than some chocolate milk and even MILO haha

Have you tried Myofusion?

i mixed my protein with skim milk instead of water, TASTES SO FREAKING GOOD!
Myofusion BIG NO NO for me.
TOTAL FAT 2.5g burn fat minum fat
sugars 2g but then it says no added sugar?
ingredients red alert! maltodextrin as second most and again in third ingredient, like maltodextrin isn't enough, they add in sucralose again!

i'm gonna go easy on BCAA till i can get my hands on raw bcaa but Myofusion really NO NO.

so myofusion got banyak fillers ke?

haha no sugar added by 2g of sugar... LOL

For me, if you are buying whey protein, anything listed in the ingredients other than whey protein will be considered fillers.
But, of course, we are humans with tastebuds so usually, i will make special allowance for natural stuff like stevia.
Always go for quality, not quantity as you are paying hard earned money and the stuff is actually going into your body system.
Short term wise, maybe there will be no side effect, it is in the long term.
Also see the protein percentage per serving.

let's see....

(if vanilla)
MT's iso zero: 25g/28g: 89.2%
Dymatize ISO 100: 25g/29.2g: 85.6%
ON Gold Standard: 24g/31g: 77.4%
GN Myofusion: 25g/38g: 65.8%

Breaking them down like this, you can see what you really drinking.
Myofusion: 65.8% protein, 34.2% crap.

Oh. nice analysis. Maybe I should consider taking Dymatize Iso. MMC always out of stock yeah?

Btw, MuscleTech was doing some Amino Acid spiking as well right? Is it safe to trust the company?

This post has been edited by BacktoBasics: Nov 5 2015, 01:35 PM

buddy, amino spiking is added stuff like taurine, glycine, glutamine so as long as you don't see those, it is okay... like MT's iso zero hahahahaha that's y mahal.

i know there was once gaspari was under fire for this.

aight bro. noted

Alamak..just about I wanted to switch to Dymatize Elite, way cheaper than ON Gold Standard at MMC, since they are the sole distributor?

Dymatize ISO-100 - finding more info.

my dua kupang, cheaper does not necessary mean gooding.

SHOWDOWN! Dymatize Elite (DE) vs ON Gold Standard (vanilla flavour):

Ingredients:

DE: Whey Protein Blend (Whey Protein Concentrate, Whey Protein Isolate, Hydrolyzed Whey Protein Concentrate), Natural & Artificial Flavors, Soy Lecithin, Gum Blend (Cellulose Gum, Xanthan Gum, Carrageenan), Enzyme Blend (Protease, Lactase, Lipase), Acesulfame Potassium, Sucralose, Stevia Leaf Extract.

ON: Protein Blend (Whey Protein Isolate, Whey Protein Concentrate, Whey Peptides), Natural And Artificial Flavors, Lecithin, Acesulfame Potassium, Aminogen®, Lactase.


Protein per serving

DE: 25g/34g: 73.5%

ON: 24g/29.4g: 81.6%


Total fat

DE: 1.5g

ON: 1g


Sugar

DE: 1g

ON: 1g

This is usually what I look at before buying whey protein, so....
If i were you, i would stick to ON Gold Standard despite the price difference


Latest news i heard from supplier, Dymatize manufacturing plant closed and now they are outsourcing to another third party blender.

http://www.postholdings.com/newsroom/post-...sfer-production

I just purchased 10lbs ON GS. Interesting news but MMC said they Dymatize new stock will only arrive next year's March!

Is this brand ok? Heard lotsa promotion about it at local gym.\
http://www.scitecnutrition.com/

i WISHED MT would come out with 10LBS for ISO ZERO too!!! rm215 for 3lbs really

oh well, when MMC restocks Dymatize, i hope they would try the taste and all, due to change in manufacturing plants.
Keeping fingers crossed for maintained quality and taste!

GS??what or where is GS?

The content of the protein and servings varies from flavors to flavors it seems. My double chocolate ON is about 30.4g per serving.

How does vanilla from ON taste like?

i only tried strawberry and cookies n cream apart from the usual chocs.
the cookies n cream not bad also.
i would like to try choc mint and mocha...just never seen them here

This post has been edited by Everdying: Nov 7 2015, 09:25 PM

lol let me guesss... strawberry tasted like cough syrup? cookies n cream? is it sweet? am not much of a sweet tooth lol.

nah, like the choc its got some underlying sour taste...same with cookies.
sweetest was one of the chocs...think double choc...my current one is extreme choc simply cos it was the only one left in stock when i bought

extreme milk choc is sweet. Double chocolate has more cocoa taste IMHO. chocolate got sour taste? didnt taste sour

ya can't recall which sweetest... all still a bit sweet anyway.
got, its the aftertaste.

ya can't recall which sweetest... all still a bit sweet anyway.
got, its the aftertaste.

do you use other brands of whey protein? or you came back ON for the high protein content with lesser fillers?

do you take other supplements like casein? BCAA?Creatine?

only other is dymatize, nothing else.
iirc dymatize also got creatine added, or maybe not.
forgot what i took already, but one of it had...and didn't feel any difference... so back to ON.
i always wanted to try rule 1 / r1 which apparently from same makers as ON...just places close to me don't stock and i lazy travel to subang which is the closest i know that has.

This post has been edited by Everdying: Nov 7 2015, 11:05 PM

Hmm. R1 seems to be good looking at the ingredients. But I don't fancy those zero sugar products as it contains a lot of aspartame. The sugar free thingy. Not good for health at all. Go for low sugar content is better I think.

I see R1 is more expensive but lesser fillers and calories and zero fat.

But I never heard of this brand widely used before. Trustable?

Hmm. R1 seems to be good looking at the ingredients. But I don't fancy those zero sugar products as it contains a lot of aspartame. The sugar free thingy. Not good for health at all. Go for low sugar content is better I think.

I see R1 is more expensive but lesser fillers and calories and zero fat.

But I never heard of this brand widely used before. Trustable?

technically everything is not good for health, all depends on moderation and how paranoid one is

btw, just fyi, ON has acesulfame potassium...go Google it and let ur paranoia soarrrrr...

This post has been edited by Everdying: Nov 8 2015, 02:48 PM

oh babeh... LOL...

Can you share any article to indicate that it is something to be feared of?

as mentioned, a simple google will suffice...plenty of articles on the first page.
im not paranoid enough to bother, all up to u if u want to.

Now that we are at it, just for sharing:

http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-...ners-fact-sheet

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20166324/

SO TRUE... i'm paranoid about what i eat so yeah...
good for bodybuilders or supplement users to know the real thing cos you can't see side effects in the short term...

yeah, content differs from flavours to flavours so i had to choose only one flavour as a benchmark for all brands = VANILLA.

Taste wise, i think, also differs from one person to another.
For me, natural flavour would be best as the artificial ones tend to be revolting...

R1 looks good but breaking it down...

For the Ultra Pure Whey Isolate/Hydrolysate Formula,

VANILLA FLAVOUR
0g fat
0g sugar
protein per serving: 25g/28.9g: 86.5%

ingredients:
protein blend (whey protein isolate, whey protein hydrolysate), micronized amino acid blend (l-leucine, l-isoleucine, l-glutamine), natural and artificial flavour, lechitin, sucralose, acesulfame potassium.

(not sure if can be found in Malaysia): $99.99 for 5LBS


Conclusion:
Looking at the above breakdown, i think you can just stick to ON at a cheaper price (by half, maybe), delivering almost the same amount of protein per serving at 81.6% (ON).
Why would they need to add in BCAA? increase protein?

$99.99 but selling $74.99.
over here its rm239, wdc nutrition sells them.
interesting price difference, my guess is its stocks from before currency shot up.

OHH THANKS! the flavours very tempting but no, won't buy
can get MT Iso Zero at cheaper rate and higher protein per serving.

not bad this thread....
from determining whether the dymatize elite bought fake or real
to
whey protein discussion....

I think BCAA helps protein synthesis in some ways... But i read the sticky in this forum it was said that glutamine, taurine & leucine are not good?

IMHO, whey protein should just contain whey protein.
Not to say that they are not good. By adding in BCAA, that is just plain amino spiking.
If customers want glutamine, taurine & leucine, we would buy BCAA.

Yeah I agree. I think ON doesnt have much fillers or so to speak in them.

Want to go for isolates....they seem to contain less bullshit but I dont think I can sustain continuously.

anyone here know where i can buy scivation's bcaa raw? it is the unflavoured version.