MSI GE72-2QD Apache Pro Series

-Intel Core I7-4720HQ (2.6Ghz to 3.6Ghz, 6MB Cache)
-Windows 8.1Single Language 64Bit
-17'3" FHD (1920x1080) LED Backlit IPS Panel
-Nvidia GTX960M 2GB DDR5
-8GB DDR3(L) RAM (MAX 16GB)
- 1TB HDD (7200RPM) (Super Raid Supported)
-Killer E2200 Gaming LAN + Interl 802.11AC Wireless
-Super Multi DVD-RW
-Bluetooth 4.0
-Martix Display Supported
-2 Years Warranty with 1st Years International

OR

ILLEGEAR Z5

Custom Specifications
15.6" Full HD Anti-Glare Display IPS /AHVA Wide Color Gamut & Viewing Angle (1920 x 1080)
Intel® HM87 Express Chipset
Intel® Core™ i7-4720HQ Processor
Nvidia GeForce GTX 960M 4GB GDDR5 (Maxwell) (Default)
8GB DDR3L 1600MHz SDRAM by default (Up to 16GB DDR3L 1600MHz SDRAM)
Seagate 500GB SSHD by default (1x SATA slot & 2x mSATA slots)
Backlit Keyboard with Four Programmable Macro Keys
Two Built-in Speakers & One Punchy Subwoofer
Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260 – WLAN & Blutooh 4.0 Combo.
HD Webcam and Dual Digital Microphone
Dual-heatpipe, Dual-vent and Dual-fan Cooling


My budget is 5.5k. Please help me to decide!
dont be shy to share your experience on the above models

Illegear z5 ofcourse xD go for illegear GTX970M

i bought it for 5.3k , that time got free upgrade to 1TB toshiba SSHD

ur extra rm200 can opt for IC Thermal compound ( better cooling ) also

and so far i play my games Ultra setting for whole day, max temp only 67 celcius only.

how much is the MSI?

jz got my z5 only btw hype

Msi ge 72 cost 5.2k
illegear have to pay for os and 1tb hdd and now no more free upgrade
GTX 970M need to top up 800++, over budget.
is gtx 960 good enough?

Illegear Z5 for the after sale service since the two spec is almost the same

if u dont mind the extra heat...u can OC ur gtx960m..thn u can get almost similar performance as gtx970m..

what so good about the after sale service of illegear? mind to share?
sorry, gaming laptop newbie here

sorry, what is oc? noob here

From other thread, they illegear team is friendly and do their job nicely.

Also, Z5 has one of the best thermal solution on a laptop.

OC means overclock...to push ur graphic card base clocks over the pre-set number...will improve gaming performance..but at higher consumption of electricity and produce more heat..

Don't bother with Illegear...bad experience 😳😳

mind to share?

any owner of the above model laptop want to share their experience?

with 970 is 5.3k for me. without , minus 800 from 5.3k

go for gtx970m since your budget is around 5.5k, illigear guys is acting fast and friendly! and z5 had been proved it got a good thermal system. and may i ask what mean you say no free upgrade?

if i upgrade to gtx 970, i cant get 128 ssd teach me how?
@blizzardcraft said he got free upgrade from 500gb hdd to 1tb hdd, now the promotion no more.

i checked the website, 5.5k with 1tb hdd gtx 970 and windows 10.
but i want ssd

SSD later can add. But the GPU you cant change because not MXM unit but soldered on.

Make your choice. What games are you going to play?

yeah! you are right! i think i will go for gtx 970, so msi or illegear now?

mainly dota2, but i got plenty of games in my steam library

SSD ltr can add ah, i now running with 1tb SSHD, start up faster abit...

my last laptop runs on SSD, but this laptop i can stand with the speed of program being launch, sacrifice it for ULTRA on all graphics xD

SSD next time only add...and dont forget 970 vs 960, the range of difference is quite big according to benchmark websites

Hi. I saw on the MSI brochure that model GE72 2QD has the graphic card GTX 965M 2GB GDDR5, not GTX 960M.

would be helpful to at least point out what went wrong.


I had things that went VERY wrong and they rectified (to a certain extent), and had no issues with the product whatsoever (except for problems caused by myself)

This post has been edited by hyperyouth_firepower: Aug 25 2015, 05:16 PM

Wahhhh. Really bo? Lotsa good reviews from Illegear leh.

IMO, get the 970M since you have the budget.

Also check if the GPU of MSI GE72-2QD is soldered on the motherboard or not.
Illegear Z5 GPU is soldered, so you won't be able to upgrade the graphic card in the future.

You don't have to buy the OS first. You can request for Windows 1 year tryout, and get the product key when you have the money.
I am currently using SSHD and it is fast enough for me (about half a minute booting up and shutting down)

I am using Illegear S5 currently, running very well. BSOD once but after upgrading the Graphic Driver no more BSOD.

This post has been edited by whit3feather: Aug 26 2015, 10:43 AM

i prefer get illegear z5 compare msi... that msi is 17" sure heavy

go for MSI GE72-2QD because 5th Gen boardwell i7 CPU and win10 already available to this model. It is great to get a new and latest one..

MSI GE72-2QD supports 3 slot M.2 SATA SSD RAID which is faster than ILLEGEAR Z5 which comes with 2 slot mSATA..

also not sure about ILLEGEAR service is good or not??

This post has been edited by Kroger88: Oct 1 2015, 03:47 PM

You posted a question and a statement, and I'm going to respectfully answer a question and ask another question.


On Illegear's service:

There's no perfect service, like in my case there were some hiccups, (i'll explain slightly below) but they have as a company done much better than I think most other companies will do.

My situation;
a) I had a broken keyboard and needed replacement (user fault), but I had a faulty paintjob (it was an issue that I really fussed about, Illegear accepted it) and I wanted to perform an add on upgrade (adding ram to total of 32GB). I couldn't send my laptop to Illegear, (because Poslaju refused to sign the insurance for a RM8k device). I called Prince_J and despite the fact that I intruded upon his meeting schedule (for which was unintended and I apologize), he came up with a solution right away [something above and beyond, since the warranty i purchased is 'bring in warranty' and they could refuse to advice me on anything about delivery to them, but they were very helpful].

b) When my laptop arrived, to the point of delivery, their staff has been very polite and kind enough to update me on the status every now and then, as well as diagnosing the laptop on entirety and discovering setups that I've done wrong (thanks to Adil@Illegear) on a setup (which I've asked why my 980M was getting low benchmark scores in the Illegear thread).

c) I'm not exactly a very patient customer, and when I finally got my laptop back, I discovered that the DVD-ROM that I ordered did not arrive (I added on a HDD, RAM, and DVD-ROM). I informed Illegear via Prince_J, and without any excuses or denial, he sent me the DVD-ROM without even questioning.

Now, you may think that I'm just getting on Illegear's good side, but I'll say that if you switch Illegear to another company (especially those big players), chances are on situation A alone I'll be given the "sorry we don't really care, and why do you even want to send us your laptop" in the first place. Illegear did what they did, and I'm sure they're really up to the standard as a prim and proper Clevo reseller. Sure there are some bad stories, and if I'm super nitpicky i'll say things that happened to me should not have happened, but hey, Illegear did way better than most companies, I think.

Besides, just on that RMA + upgrade + this and that, other companies would have "pening" and deferred, but Illegear didn't. Kudos to them I'll say.

My POV is that, rather wait for nvidia pascal and intel skylake for mobile. Worth waiting for both of them implemented into laptops (well intel skylake has already been released for that). Maybe more expensive, but gives you more time to mine more money and accumulate into your budget.

Imagine z5 with gtx1070m (just saying), intel skylake i7 6XXXHQ/QM and 16gb ddr4 ram...

This post has been edited by lolzcalvin: Oct 1 2015, 11:38 PM

looking forward from skylake and nvdia combo again this time... even intel graphic hd can play mainstream games in 30-40fps..