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post Aug 18 2015, 10:26 AM, updated 11y ago

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Today im at goverment place, suddenly got a few name been called

All got same surname

Eg Ali Merican Ahmad Merican

Syakira Merican Ahmad Merican

And so on, why liddis ah? Why malay got family name? They proud of ancestors or what?
QUOTE(kratos123 @ Aug 18 2015, 10:43 AM)
I will stop this thread. Too many people dont know what is different from gelaran name and family name. They too stupid because that is not their culture.

i think only non malay grow up with family name know what im talking about.
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post Aug 18 2015, 10:29 AM

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post Aug 18 2015, 10:31 AM

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A few malay got family name. usually bangsawan dahulu kala.

Example: Wan, Megat, Daeng, Tengku
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post Aug 18 2015, 10:31 AM

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because they always copy others, so they want to be like chinese.
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post Aug 18 2015, 10:31 AM

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lantak diorang la. yang kau sibuk sangat tu buat apa?
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post Aug 18 2015, 10:32 AM

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Family name in malay is a symbol of rank in society. normal people cant have it
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QUOTE(nefashu @ Aug 18 2015, 10:31 AM)
A few malay got family name. usually bangsawan dahulu kala.

Example: Wan, Megat, Daeng, Tengku
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tambah sikit.. syed, sharifah..
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post Aug 18 2015, 10:33 AM

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biasa je...up to them la. it's similar like syed & syarifah, awang & dayang, abang & sharifah, bla bla bla
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post Aug 18 2015, 10:33 AM

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i think the most commonly heard is the 'merican' surname.. last time petronas president also got this surname. not sure everybody is related or not..

another one that i think quite uncommon is AB.. at 1st, i thought it is the short form for 'abdul', and it is not. it was pronounced as A-B..
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post Aug 18 2015, 10:34 AM

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why you ashamed of your ancestor?

you are indirectly insulting all those with surname
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post Aug 18 2015, 10:34 AM

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post Aug 18 2015, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(blackpc @ Aug 18 2015, 10:33 AM)
biasa je...up to them la. it's similar like syed & syarifah, awang & dayang, abang & sharifah, bla bla bla
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Abang and Sharifah? shocking.gif shocking.gif Abang and Dayang got la

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post Aug 18 2015, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(nefashu @ Aug 18 2015, 10:31 AM)
A few malay got family name. usually bangsawan dahulu kala.

Example: Wan, Megat, Daeng, Tengku
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Dei that is not family name la. Confuse ke gelaran and family NAME?

Family is is inherit from great2 grandfather eg Shahabjan

So all children got shahabjan at behind their name, same like father. Mother if got family name, must change to husband family name after married.
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QUOTE(Sha91 @ Aug 18 2015, 10:35 AM)
Abang and Sharifah? shocking.gif  shocking.gif Abang and Dayang got la
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Syed dan Syarifah if not mistaken.
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Merican = Murican = Wannabe American
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post Aug 18 2015, 10:38 AM

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Some people keep it. Some people don't. Else I'll be a Pangeran or something
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post Aug 18 2015, 10:38 AM

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Raja, Nik, Ngku, Che, Wan
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QUOTE(kratos123 @ Aug 18 2015, 10:35 AM)
Dei that is not family name la. Confuse ke gelaran and family NAME?

Family is is inherit from great2 grandfather eg Shahabjan

So all children got shahabjan at behind their name, same like father. Mother if got family name, must change to husband family name after married.
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Some family name in malay is in front.

ie: wan ahmad wan badruddin (wan), megat junid megat ayub (megat), tengku malik tengku halim (tengku)

in Malay, the wife doesnt not inherit the family name. only children.
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Megat xxx
Wan xxx
Sharifah xxx
Syed xxx


Only mohd or muhamad or mohamad is not coz almost all malay oarents will put that their male child first name to honor the prophet 😁
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post Aug 18 2015, 10:43 AM

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gelaran is not family name

chinese that converted to islam also sometimes retain their family name
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I will stop this thread. Too many people dont know what is different from rank name and family name. They too stupid because that is not their culture.

i think only non malay grow up with family name know what im talking about.
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QUOTE(emino @ Aug 18 2015, 10:36 AM)
Syed dan Syarifah if not mistaken.
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He mentioned that edy.
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post Aug 18 2015, 10:45 AM

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I think some with Arab ancestry still maintain family names.

al-Habsyi
Albar
al-Bukhari

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post Aug 18 2015, 10:45 AM

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at first i saw the surname merican, i tot its mexican or short form for american laugh.gif
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post Aug 18 2015, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Aug 18 2015, 10:45 AM)
I think some with Arab ancestry still maintain family names.

al-Habsyi
Albar
al-Bukhari
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Yes this im talking about
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QUOTE(damakarjuna @ Aug 18 2015, 10:32 AM)
tambah sikit.. syed, sharifah..
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syed tu arab...

QUOTE(dynames07 @ Aug 18 2015, 10:33 AM)
i think the most commonly heard is the 'merican' surname.. last time petronas president also got this surname. not sure everybody is related or not..

another one that i think quite uncommon is AB.. at 1st, i thought it is the short form for 'abdul', and it is not. it was pronounced as A-B..
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merican, jinnah, kadir --- mamak

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Ali rempit
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Aug 18 2015, 10:43 AM)
gelaran is not family name

chinese that converted to islam also sometimes retain their family name
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post Aug 18 2015, 10:49 AM

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I tot Bin Laden => Laden is also family name?
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QUOTE(kratos123 @ Aug 18 2015, 10:43 AM)
I will stop this thread. Too many people dont know what is different from rank name and family name. They too stupid because that is not their culture.

i think only non malay grow up with family name know what im talking about.
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bro...those were example for "malay" names la...

eg; syed is just in the beginning of their names. For example my friend's full name Syed Zainal Abidin Aljunid bin Syed Abdul Kadir Aljunid. I can see he's very proud to intro and carry only the name Syed Aljunid. Even his sports jerseys only printed this name.

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Malay manada family name.

kalo yang ada tu biasanya descendant of mamak, paki, arab, angmoh etc..

malay biasanya bin or binti bapaknyer..non halal biasa pakai bin dolah la kot
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Aug 18 2015, 10:45 AM)
I think some with Arab ancestry still maintain family names.

al-Habsyi
Albar
al-Bukhari
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yep and these are all syeds
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post Aug 18 2015, 10:54 AM

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This is patronymic naming system... not just limited to malay...i think some indians( anak lelaki/anak perempuan) and bumiputera in sabah/sarawak(bin/binti) follow this system...
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Also some from Sumatera.

Nasution
Hutagalung

Another Arab surname - Alsagoff - well know family in Singapore.
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QUOTE(fatani @ Aug 18 2015, 10:51 AM)
Malay manada family name.

kalo yang ada tu biasanya descendant of mamak, paki, arab, angmoh etc..

malay biasanya bin or binti bapaknyer..non halal biasa pakai bin dolah la kot
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YES TRUE!!!

malay dont have family name.
yang ada famili name tu bukan ketuanan melayu.

contoh:
Nasution, Siregar - asal BATAK
Merican: - asal India...MAMAK
al-habshi, etc: asal arab.
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QUOTE(kratos123 @ Aug 18 2015, 10:26 AM)
Today im at goverment place, suddenly got a few name been called

All got same surname

Eg Ali Merican Ahmad Merican

    Syakira Merican Ahmad Merican

And so on, why liddis ah? Why malay got family name? They proud of ancestors or what?
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Got, as long as they want it, they can have a family name and give their children the family name, in the end, just a name, as long as government officer approves the name no problem.
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post Aug 18 2015, 11:02 AM

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dunno i only inherit bin from my ancestor
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QUOTE(kratos123 @ Aug 18 2015, 10:43 AM)
I will stop this thread. Too many people dont know what is different from rank name and family name. They too stupid because that is not their culture.

i think only non malay grow up with family name know what im talking about.
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Who stupid now.. if u can't accept the different way of others doing stuff, is all stupid now? Wow master race much?

Back in those days, only Malays of rank carry surnames.

What rank is up to them. It varies. To the most ppl who still having them these days, merely to follow the clan their ancestors belong to. Nothing much of rank d.

Deal with it.
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I remember last time got one TV3 newscaster (0f the 1990s) Ezzah Aziz Fawzy, Fawzy is her hubby's 1st name.. Oldfags might remember her.
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mine is Wan...

NOT KELATE OK so no need sedak abe sedak
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QUOTE(dosnx @ Aug 18 2015, 09:58 AM)
YES TRUE!!!

malay dont have family name.
yang ada famili name tu bukan ketuanan melayu.

contoh:
Nasution, Siregar - asal BATAK
Merican: - asal India...MAMAK
al-habshi, etc: asal arab.
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but those with wan,megat,tuan,nik etc may be considered family name oso, i guess, malay style. maybe different from other race.

because those names can only be inherited from lineage.

title for me is like dato tan sri bla bla..
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QUOTE(nestlebliss @ Aug 18 2015, 10:10 AM)
mine is Wan...

NOT KELATE OK so no need sedak abe sedak
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wan normally ganu berat nanang mung
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QUOTE(fatani @ Aug 18 2015, 11:16 AM)
wan normally ganu berat nanang mung
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ganu klate... pantai timur juga ahahhaha tongue.gif






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mine is Sakti. my dad has it, and all my siblings have it also.
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QUOTE(kratos123 @ Aug 18 2015, 10:43 AM)
I will stop this thread. Too many people dont know what is different from rank name and family name. They too stupid because that is not their culture.

i think only non malay grow up with family name know what im talking about.
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no malay dun keep family name,
the rank name like syed, sharifah, tenku, che, wan.. that all not use anymore, as anybody can put son name syed ali, even hhis dad is not syed.
this rank name only use long time ago, now no more, u can see pipul name syed but poor as fark.
so no family name for maleis, my name start with Mohd, my dad also start with mohd, that not family name, my granddad start with abdul.
malay families like do some pattern for names in familes, like all start with mohd, all start with siti, all start with ahmad, all had initial A, something like that, and no thats not rank or family name. that syok sendiri family name.
so conclusion, no malay dont have family name.
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QUOTE(nestlebliss @ Aug 18 2015, 11:10 AM)
mine is Wan...

NOT KELATE OK so no need sedak abe sedak
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Sedak abe sedak nestle bliss ni nyumm nyumm
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QUOTE(badigol@69 @ Aug 18 2015, 10:29 AM)
no malay dun keep family name,
the rank name like syed, sharifah, tenku, che, wan.. that all not use anymore, as anybody can put son name syed ali, even hhis dad is not syed.
this rank name only use long time ago, now no more, u can see pipul name syed but poor as fark.
so no family name for maleis, my name start with Mohd, my dad also start with mohd, that not family name, my granddad start with abdul.
malay families like do some pattern for names in familes, like all start with mohd, all start with siti, all start with ahmad, all had initial A, something like that, and no thats not rank or family name. that syok sendiri family name.
so conclusion, no malay dont have family name.
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kenot lah..oni lineage ken use that name. u ken refer pejabat pendaftaran. kenot suka2 put nama anak syed wan tengku etc..those names eligible for lineage oni..
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QUOTE(fatani @ Aug 18 2015, 11:57 AM)
kenot lah..oni lineage ken use that name. u ken refer pejabat pendaftaran. kenot suka2 put nama anak syed wan tengku etc..those names eligible for lineage oni..
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My son is half malay half pure arab

I didnt put my son name syed ..... Bin my name coz im not syed

So embarrassing coz my wife is arabian, she told me syed in arab just normal call like hei mat if u donno people name.

Btw my wife got family name, not like bin or binti in malaysia
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i tot nowdays if u want to use 'lineage name' like tengku, che, wan, megat, syed, etc..you need reference and proof

syed/syarifah i tot from Prophet Muhammad lineage. no?
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QUOTE(kratos123 @ Aug 18 2015, 11:03 AM)
My son is half malay half pure arab

I didnt put my son name syed ..... Bin my name coz im not syed

So embarrassing coz my wife is arabian, she told me syed in arab just normal call like hei mat if u donno people name.

Btw my wife got family name, not like bin or binti in malaysia
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dowan letak, no problem. many people, like u, opt for this option oso..in fact, berlambak kat luar sana tu yang lineage syed wan tengku engku tuan etc yang opt to remove the name, for whatever reason they might have.

but, to simply suka2 nak letak nama, without lineage authenticity, kenot. pejabat pendaftaran negara.
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QUOTE(fatani @ Aug 18 2015, 11:57 AM)
kenot lah..oni lineage ken use that name. u ken refer pejabat pendaftaran. kenot suka2 put nama anak syed wan tengku etc..those names eligible for lineage oni..
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i got friend his dad not syed
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apa barang malay sekarang guna name orang putehla
nick la aaron la john la macam2 lah baru malay ultra


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since when merican is malay doh.gif

mamak name la
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QUOTE(nestlebliss @ Aug 18 2015, 11:10 AM)
mine is Wan...

NOT KELATE OK so no need sedak abe sedak
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now no more sedak abe,


the in now is Wan Emdibi
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Talking about family names, looks like not that many Chinese family in the beginning. Probably there were many in olden days but got obliterated by more powerful families laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kratos123 @ Aug 18 2015, 10:26 AM)
Today im at goverment place, suddenly got a few name been called

All got same surname

Eg Ali Merican Ahmad Merican

    Syakira Merican Ahmad Merican

And so on, why liddis ah? Why malay got family name? They proud of ancestors or what?
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how about Evan's? betul2 ada or mengada-ngada? at fb troll page they kutuk budak2 with 'evans' fb name.
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Daeng belong to bugis, which is for those who are close to royal eg selangor sultanate

But largely not use anymore

If not ayam put Daeng ichi jajajaja remove voc remove east india
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Muslim does not inherit family name but pointing to their ancestors by his name to the oldest ancestor that they knew.

Ali bin abu bin najib bin maslan bin damak bin sulaiman

Ali is his name
Abu - his father
Najib - Grandpa
Maslan - Great granpa
damak - great great grandpa
sulaiman - great great great granpa..
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QUOTE(nefashu @ Aug 18 2015, 10:31 AM)
A few malay got family name. usually bangsawan dahulu kala.

Example: Wan, Megat, Daeng, Tengku
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So my nephew called wan adam is from bangsawan?
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QUOTE(badigol@69 @ Aug 18 2015, 11:20 AM)
i got friend his dad not syed
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please contact sprm for further investigation.

btw..(antara peraturan pendaftaran nama oleh jabatan pendaftaran negara.

Ketua Pengarah JPN, Datuk Wan Ibrahim Wan Ahmad berkata, sembilan daripada jumlah berkenaan adalah tertakluk di bawah Garis Panduan Nama Yang Tidak Sesuai 1988, manakala bakinya termasuk dalam senarai nama ditegah atau dilarang mengikut buku panduan JPN yang diguna pakai di seluruh negara.

Antara senarai nama ditegah atau dilarang adalah kumpulan nama gelaran yang dianugerahkan kerajaan seperti Tun, Tan Sri, Datuk, Datin, Puan Sri, Datuk Patinggi, Datuk Wira, Datuk Bentara Dalam atau Datuk Bentara Luar.

Ini diikuti nama pangkat atau jawatan contohnya haji, imam, nabi, mufti, ketua menteri, gabenor, sarjan, laksamana, hakim atau permaisuri.

“Nama gelaran keturunan seperti Tunku, Tengku, Raja, Syed dan Syarifah tidak boleh digunakan orang lain iaitu bukan daripada empat keturunan ini kecuali mereka yang lahir dalam keluarga berkenaan saja.


“Nama profesional dan kepahlawanan sama ada doktor (Dr), jurutera (Ir), Mahaguru, Pendekar atau Satria; tidak kira setinggi mana pun kelayakan mereka tidak dibenarkan sama sekali selain nama yang berbunyi lucah dan buruk,” katanya.


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gelaran keturunan seperti Raja, Tunku, Tengku, Syed dan Syarifah tidak boleh digunakan sewenang-wenangnya dan ia hanya dibenarkan kepada mereka yang lahir dalam keturunan berkenaan sahaja.

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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Aug 18 2015, 12:39 PM)
So my nephew called wan adam is from bangsawan?
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How come your nephew bangsawan and your are only /k? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kratos123 @ Aug 18 2015, 12:03 PM)
My son is half malay half pure arab

I didnt put my son name syed ..... Bin my name coz im not syed

So embarrassing coz my wife is arabian, she told me syed in arab just normal call like hei mat if u donno people name.

Btw my wife got family name, not like bin or binti in malaysia
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U learn a bit lar arabic.

Syed is not "hei mat"

Syed is similiar to pok cik or unker.

So if u see an old arabic man, calling him syed or sayid is calling him unker.
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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Aug 18 2015, 11:39 AM)
So my nephew called wan adam is from bangsawan?
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my nephew oso got wan becoz his dad got wan..waht about yours?

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thread derailed for a while by ppl who dun know wat a family name a.k.a surname is
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MAJORITY nama nak tunjuk keturunan hebat tapi sadly perangai tak sehebat nama

Wakakakaka
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If tarak surname how to prevent inbreeding?
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QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Aug 18 2015, 12:45 PM)
If tarak surname how to prevent inbreeding?
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compare nipple color.
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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Aug 18 2015, 11:44 AM)
thread derailed for a while by ppl who dun know wat a family name a.k.a surname is
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maybe yes or maybe not. in case of malay name, the arrangement of the name might be different. hence the discussion here.
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QUOTE(placenta @ Aug 18 2015, 10:31 AM)
because they always copy others, so they want to be like chinese.
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so much hatred in this.
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QUOTE(superb999 @ Aug 18 2015, 11:45 AM)
MAJORITY nama nak tunjuk keturunan hebat tapi sadly perangai tak sehebat nama

Wakakakaka
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yeah, u got a point there, but it's irrelevant to the topic of discussion..
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QUOTE(Zot @ Aug 18 2015, 12:41 PM)
How come your nephew bangsawan and your are only /k?  hmm.gif
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I am asking, from what i know he aint directly from royalty.

He my nephew from inter marriage, not direct lineage.
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QUOTE(fatani @ Aug 18 2015, 11:50 AM)
yeah, u got a point there, but it's irrelevant to the topic of discussion..
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How is it irrelevant. Thats the main purpose to maintain the family name is it not
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QUOTE(fatani @ Aug 18 2015, 12:43 PM)
my nephew oso got wan becoz his dad got wan..waht about yours?
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Yup, Wan Adam.

His dad also Wan xxxx.

Odd that his supposed family name is in front.
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dah dah...jgn cerita lagi pasal nama bangsawan.. filthy peasant dah butthurt
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QUOTE(nefashu @ Aug 18 2015, 10:31 AM)
A few malay got family name. usually bangsawan dahulu kala.

Example: Wan, Megat, Daeng, Tengku
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QUOTE(damakarjuna @ Aug 18 2015, 10:32 AM)
tambah sikit.. syed, sharifah..
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i have my friend , his lfamily got TUAN .
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see thread title. we're discussing about malay name bro..pasal perangai haramjadah tu cerita lain. yang nama muhammad tapi perangai macam babi pun berlambak.

the main purpose for the lineage name is, IMO, is to know/aware your lineage.

**this is supposed to be a reply for a previous poster. Just now i realised i forgot to quote him/her. Duhh

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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Aug 18 2015, 11:54 AM)
Yup, Wan Adam.

His dad also Wan xxxx.

Odd that his supposed family name is in front.
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so, nothing surprising. normally those names inherited from the father.

but in some cases, oso ken inherit from mother. eg since my dad is peasant, but manage to score with a royal, then my step bro all got Nik names. later divorce marry peasant got me. peasant name. dang
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QUOTE(fatani @ Aug 18 2015, 01:05 PM)
so, nothing surprising. normally those names inherited from the father.

but in some cases, oso ken inherit from mother. eg since my dad is peasant, but manage to score with a royal, then my step bro all got Nik names. later divorce marry peasant got me. peasant name. dang
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For you it isnt, for it is a surprised that the family name is infront.
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QUOTE(fatani @ Aug 18 2015, 01:05 PM)
so, nothing surprising. normally those names inherited from the father.

but in some cases, oso ken inherit from mother. eg since my dad is peasant, but manage to score with a royal, then my step bro all got Nik names. later divorce marry peasant got me. peasant name. dang
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For you it isnt, for it is a surprised that the family name is infront.
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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Aug 18 2015, 12:27 PM)
For you it isnt, for it is a surprised that the family name is infront.
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Im not sure if the malay can call it a family name, but one thing is certain, it is a lineage name.
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QUOTE(harriss @ Aug 18 2015, 11:57 AM)
i have my friend , his lfamily got TUAN .
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Tuan kalo tak silap kelantan mari..
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Then how do malays trace their ancestry if no surname for traceability?

There's chances your children's spouse having the same great grandparent right??

I'm just imagining last time ppl use to have dozens of children...
When comes to 3rd generation, you might not even know that you are relatives...
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Indon muslim different style,
Malay muslim different style,
Arab muslim different style,

Malay with family name will be weird.. first I see was Yasmin Hani Richardson binti Abdullah Richardson.. mmkaaay
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my lecturer's name is Eti Farah Binti Captain Zainudin

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QUOTE(l3iTi @ Aug 18 2015, 01:50 PM)
Then how do malays trace their ancestry if no surname for traceability?

There's chances your children's spouse having the same great grandparent right??

I'm just imagining last time ppl use to have dozens of children...
When comes to 3rd generation, you might not even know that you are relatives...
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As melei is assimilating arabic ways of naming, so I will discuss the theory in this.

Arabs actually will remember their grandfather, greatgranpa, great great granpa name. But this is only applicable to people with good lineage. The peasant or scrub doesnt care less.

When melei adopt the naming, similiarly, people with noble blood (ah semua keturunan pirate bugis) will actually remember their great great great granpa name but also in addition have either Tunku, Tengku, Teuku in their name to symbolize their status. But scrub like me, couldnt care less about the ancestry as we dont benefit from it.


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QUOTE(notoriousfiq @ Aug 18 2015, 01:00 PM)
Indon muslim different style,
Malay muslim different style,
Arab muslim different style,

Malay with family name will be weird.. first I see was Yasmin Hani Richardson binti Abdullah Richardson.. mmkaaay
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malay with surname like that are normally mix blood
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QUOTE(fatani @ Aug 18 2015, 04:23 PM)
malay with surname like that are normally mix blood
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my children mix blood, i didnt put surname, although my wife got one.
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QUOTE(l3iTi @ Aug 18 2015, 01:50 PM)
Then how do malays trace their ancestry if no surname for traceability?

There's chances your children's spouse having the same great grandparent right??

I'm just imagining last time ppl use to have dozens of children...
When comes to 3rd generation, you might not even know that you are relatives...
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I got friend with name Lee married with Lee...
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Plenty la, Nik, Wan, Raja, Syed/Sharifah, Sheikh, Engku, Tengku, Megat, Abang etc...
TS, u came from which jungle?
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You never heard ali puniabo ahmad kanihbo?
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ts means surname is it?
dont think many exist coz malay name sistem is bin / binti

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