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post Feb 23 2008, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 23 2008, 10:06 AM)
Far East according PM does include US  , but most likely fund managers would not touch these regions.

I heard it during the fund briefing when PM is about to launch the Consumer Theme Fund.

As I said earlier, I am only a very small agent, so I never ask them why this and not. But I do know US is one of the APEC countries, whether by force or otherwise, I also do not know.
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Sure about it? I always taught a more accurate definition of Far-East is based on GMT line.

Yup,
US is being 'invitied' into APEC.

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post Mar 11 2008, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(MX510 @ Mar 10 2008, 07:16 PM)
This should be temporarily some of the funds were invested,outside the country like PCIF you buy now for 21 cents it could be in few months gaining more than this you should take this opportunity to buy now. Trust me it will increase soon. We're not investing in stock market which effected very high unit trust is a long term investment. So it is a good time to buy
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What are you talking about?
Equities type unit trust surely invest in equities, but you said "not investing in stock market" rclxub.gif
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post Mar 13 2008, 03:11 PM

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Yup, management fee is deducted from the fund NAV daily.
So if a fund performance based on NAV stated 15%, then the 15% is already taking accont of management fee.
So net profit for investors = 15% - service charge(5-6.5%)
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post Mar 14 2008, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(MX510 @ Mar 14 2008, 06:36 AM)
The NAV price are increasing after the elections :-) those who invested last week untung a bit already
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Please post some constructive comment which is based on the actual and real market situation. This is not the first time that your statement come with misleading fact.

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post Mar 15 2008, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(MX510 @ Mar 15 2008, 10:20 AM)
Will not post that anymore sorry for the missleading facts.I hoping this thread can discuss more open regarding all the funds, I'm posting the true facts about CIMB, do your own reasearch if u wish so :-). I just don't like investor loosing their money. As agent my target is not just doing lot's of sales but to monitor their investment and let them know when is the time to invest and etc. Hope no heart feelings regarding my statement.
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As long as posting some constructive information, then it is always welcomed.

You are free to post whatever you think and opinion, just whatever opinion need to be supported by facts and concrete information. Just like you said CIMB fund is poor then you need to bring out some statistical facts about it and make comparison with PM funds, then it is more convincing rather than say it is bad which readers will find no clue about you are saying.
You are UT agent, so too say others bad, while only yours one is good, it only makes bad impression to others. No offence.

For example
one forumer posted ABC fund is good. (The end)
Another one posted XYZ fund is good (The end)
Another posted RST fund is bad better buy ABC fund that is good. (The end)

With these kind of posts, it brings no purposes at all. All readers won't be benefitted nor getting useful information from it.

Also, past performance doesn't mean future performance will be the same. It depends on how market evolves in the future, different funds has different portfolio, sometimes, depends on situation, one might outperform the other in certain time period and vice versa.

In a down trend market, no one will gain through equities unit trust. PM has also got a fair share of poor performance UT recently, particularly related to China funds one. I don't deny PM or Pb series got some sterling performance funds over the long term, instead I highly regard the PM and Pb series fund, but not all are performing equally good one, there are some bad apples as well.

Just my 2 cents.

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post Mar 23 2008, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(howszat @ Mar 22 2008, 04:08 PM)
I was looking at a new fund PACIFIC DYNAMIC TRADER FUND and saw the following:
Does this mean that they have to sell the equities by a year-end, regardless of the price? What happens after the 10-day period - do they buy the equities back again, regardless of price? Looks crazy to me. rclxub.gif
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It looks like similar to hedge fund in overseas, which is very very risk one. 10x much more risky than normal UT fund.

It makes sense also, better read careful about their term. They (the fund objective) are traders, strategy is not as same as normal conservative fund. <-- similar to hedge fund, they are more speculative in nature.

As the fund can be 100% invested, they might have no cash in hand for any redemption one. So the 10 days period of entry-exit is meant for investors in this fund to liquidate their position. I believe there is some restriction or penalty if redeem the fund not in the 10 days period, in between the year as it would mean disruption of the fund trading side, just my guess.

Better search through its details in officially brochure or prospectus. But may be it won't be dispateching to ordinary people as min criteria is to have at least 3 millions of asset. Even 1-2 millions also not qualified. <-- again similar to hedge fund.

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post Mar 26 2008, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(artakus01 @ Mar 26 2008, 01:12 AM)
hi,

I just want your opinion about investing money in some 'koperasi' is it just the same as investing in the unit trust.

My friend that works at Koperasi Taqwa said that it is more convenience than other unit trust.
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Invest in UT or "koperasi", it is basically all about trust, aka you trust them to handle your money.

There is some crisis of "koperasi" during 70's to 80's. Ask you parent or older ages people will know.
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post Apr 7 2008, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(guanteik @ Apr 7 2008, 03:16 PM)
Balanced funds are more 'balanced' then equities... if you are really scared of losing, go for FD or Bond Funds..
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Haha, to prevent some confusion especially for newbie, balanced fund means that fund invests about half of the fund into equities, and about half invest in bond or fixed income instrument.

Actually, balanced fund has a contradiction point. Generally (not necessary), when equities perform well, bond will not. While when bonds have a good time, generally equities have some hard time.

It is mainly because when economy is expanding time whilst equities have good time, interest rate generally will go up which means bonds price will drop. On the other hand, when economy is going to recession time, central banks will cut interest rate which mean bond price will go up, and due to recession, equities will have some hard time.

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QUOTE(wtt @ Apr 7 2008, 04:40 PM)
Hi Thanks for your valuable feedback. It sounds really professional...

But I don't understand why when interest rate goes up then the bond price will go down and vice-versa? Sorry if I've asked a silly question here...

I am thinking if I was too prudent to have chosen the balanced fund. My objective of investment is I can get some regular return as well as future gain in my unit price. What would be the switching guidance can you share. What are the fund that can give me moderate return in medium say 3-4 yrs?
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wtt
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It is about risk and reward. When FD can give you higher interest than bond yield then automatically people will switch bond to FD. So when interest rate goes down, so as FD rate then higher bond yield become an attraction.
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post Apr 15 2008, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(Greybear @ Apr 15 2008, 01:26 PM)
Hi, I've just invested in PB dragon fund. 3years capital protected(I'm not a risk taker so no guts to invest in other funds, although I know I could get better returns). Any other funds in PB are good and safe?
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The only way to be safe is --> FD.

Even capital guaranteed also not that 'safe' as if market condition not favourable to the fund, the 3 years period, one actually earn no interest out of it. Mean that you lose 3.7% x 3 = 11.1%. So, it means if condition is not favourable, one actually lose out 11.1% opportunities cost. But you gain extra when market condition is good. So it is always a trade off between risk and reward.

All investment tools are carrying certain risk either more or less depends on the nature of the investment target.


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QUOTE(terryykf @ Apr 20 2008, 11:22 PM)
haha...anyone intersted in this product??
this product is good for those who want to see the return in shorter period..
the returns is better than FD rates.... drool.gif
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Slightly more only if condition is favourable.

But condition is not favourable then get zero return.

A typical capital guaranteed fund.

Actually one can't expect too much from capital guaranteed fund as mostly 85-90% of the fund money is tied to capital guaranteed instrument, only less than 15-10% is exposed to the market risk, mostly they use the money to buy options.
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QUOTE(shikuzika @ Apr 30 2008, 12:30 PM)
icon_question.gif NEED HELP FROM ANYONE WHO KNOWS ABOUT CIMB WEALTH ADVISORS icon_question.gif

I recently signed up for th DALI equity fund. I started with 10k. My confirmation statement has arrived, and here's what it stated:

CIMB ISLAMIC DALI EQUITY GROWTH FUND
Gross Amount (RM) 5,000.00 / Charges (%) 0.00 / Charges (RM) 305.16 / Net Amount 4694.84 / Unit Price (RM) 1.0398 / Units Credited 4,525.14 / Balance of Units 4,515.14
CIMB ISLAMIC DALI EQUITY THEME FUND
Gross Amount (RM) 5,000.00 / Charges (%) 0.00 / Charges (RM) 305.16 / Net Amount 4694.84 / Unit Price (RM) 0.2549 / Units Credited 18,418.36 / Balance of Units 18,418.36
How come in the Charges (%) it says 0.00 but in RM it states 305.16???
What is the difference between growth fund and theme fund?
I only agreed to purchase the RM0.2549 units. Why did my (what do I call the agent?) signed me up for two separate funds???
Is there any negative or positive effects to all this? Help!!! icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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Only 2 reasons, either you send the wrong message to your agent, or agent did it without your permission (in other word being conned or the agent trying to be clever).

If you stated you want to buy ABC fund then they cannot buy ABCD fund for you. As simple as that as it is your money, you decide whatever you want.

Theme and Growth is the name of the fund, which is separated and individual. You need to look at their propspectus to look for the differentiate. May be one is more aggressive, one is more conservative, I don't know about it since didn't do the research on it nor look at it before.
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QUOTE(shikuzika @ Apr 30 2008, 02:03 PM)
being conned or the agent trying to be clever - This is exactly what I thought.
And it was all very unprofessional. They even spelled my name wrong!!! I looked at the website, still no clear explanations between the two funds. I think I'm going to call the care line and find out what's happening... Haih, these people, really taking advantage of amateurs like me...
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Usually for new fund, there is a cooling off period that you can withdraw if you change your mind ie. cancel your purchased.
I don't know much about the cooling off precedure, never done it before. So better ask your agent. I don't think he/she wants to help you on this either. As it will mean no sales for him/her.

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QUOTE(b00n @ Apr 30 2008, 02:08 PM)
Usually growth fund is more aggressive because it invest in companies that are "growing". i.e. either new listed companies or those that had plans for expansion (new projects etc...).
Theme fund however not sure.

Anyway, phone up your agent and ask for his/her explanation on the statement; and why this 2 categories?
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It is not 2 categories but rather a2 separated fund, name might be appeared quite near, but it is 2 individual separated fund.

Yup, only his/her agents can answer the question.
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QUOTE(shikuzika @ Apr 30 2008, 02:27 PM)
Already called the hotline, they too asked me to speak to my agent. But they also explained that 'dividing' is a common practice in order to protect from any loss. So I called my agent and he explained pretty much the same thing to me. I have already scolded him and told him to explain to me if any changes were to be made in the future and to fix my name!!!  vmad.gif Haih...  I'm still sticking with the investment anyway as I am quite confident with CIMB.

And thanx for all the feedback rclxms.gif
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They cannot do it like that, it is violating the rules big times, agents cannot be try to clever. If the client wants ABC, UT company or agent cannot give ABC and ABCD.
Otherwise, next time, they can simply put your money elsewhere. It is serious stuff, don't take it lightly. It is scary to hear also. Your money being contolled by others without your knowledge and consent. Next time, then park it to where also don't know.

You can complain to BNM or FMUTM.

Hope your problem fixed and if can kind to share with us, why it is done in this way.

Cheers.

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post May 5 2008, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(wufei @ May 5 2008, 01:46 PM)
can we have V2?
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Another few posts (over 2500) then we start V2.

Thanks.
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post May 7 2008, 03:51 PM

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Anyone start a V2 as posts exceeding 2500 already. Kindly please put the link on V1 in order to forumers to refer back if needed.

Thanks.

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