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leekk8
post Aug 30 2007, 09:55 PM

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Public Mutual declare gross distribution 9cent for PSmallCap and 6cent for PBIEF.
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post Aug 31 2007, 09:35 PM

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If there is any news from Public Mutual, I will post it here.


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post Sep 1 2007, 02:09 PM

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Public Mutual EPF Scheme investment promotion has been extended to 28 Sep. The service charge during promotion is 5.45%

Funds that can be invested using EPF:
- PIX
- PRSF
- PIDF
- PIBF
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post Sep 3 2007, 11:58 PM

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If they reveal the portfolio everyday, this will add much workload for them, and management fee might not be 1.5% anymore but higher.


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post Sep 4 2007, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(edison_84 @ Sep 4 2007, 10:33 AM)
i see.. thanks for the explanation. smile.gif

Public Mutual will launch new fund soon.
Is it good idea to invest in new funds?
Need opinions and suggestions.
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Public Mutual new fund has been launched, it's Public Islamic Asia Balanced Fund.

If you talk about a new fund launching soon, it's PB Islamic Asia Strategic Sector Fund.

Now, you can invest in moderate funds, such as dividend funds...it's more stable...

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post Sep 6 2007, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(lelong1234 @ Sep 5 2007, 11:10 PM)
erm, i got a question. I have purchased the PFEPRF fund during the initial offer period. I also made a SI for this fund.

There were these three conditions for the unique DDI offer
1. No Change of DDI amount
2. No Full Redemption
3. No Full Switching
4. No Change of Ownership

#2. states no full redemption. What does this mean? I cant sell off all my units at one go?
#3. states no full switching. How much of my fund can i switch then?

Btw, is there a number of times that you can make do switching?
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These terms and conditions is for the SI.

If you sell off all your unit, sure the SI will be stoped, cause your account will be closed.

If you switch all your unit to another fund, the SI will also be stoped, cause your PFEPRF account will be closed and SI cannot be continued to another fund.

You still can sell off or switch but your SI with 5.45% service charge will be stoped.
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post Sep 6 2007, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Sep 6 2007, 10:43 AM)
When most of the funds having 50% return in this period, guaranteed funds give 20% return. How about if the market not doing well and most of the funds having 20% return? Guaranteed funds might give 3% return...

Don't expect much from guaranteed funds, as a large portion of money is invested into safe investment tools which give a low guaranteed return every year just to cover your capital in 3 years/5 years later.
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post Sep 7 2007, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(shih @ Sep 6 2007, 10:35 PM)
That is impossible for the fund manager to update you everytime. So, you need to predict the market yourself in order to maximizing your potential return, if you are going for short term. If for long term, many strategies could be implemented.
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I think cuebiz meant, the investment policy and strategies stated in the prospectus...where fund manager need to follow the policy.
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post Sep 12 2007, 10:37 AM

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Definitely the market will go down...normally KLCI above 1000 will not stay for long time, maybe just 1-3 years (based on history). It's impossible the market will be bull market forever... Anyway, the market is still strong currently.
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post Sep 13 2007, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(Justmua @ Sep 12 2007, 09:47 PM)
King Kong,

What is the best performance of PM for those 3 categories of funds, say for the last 10 years or so. Also, I take it that this is nett return? (ie. after taking off the sales commission)

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For long term of 10 years...the return extracted on 30 Aug:

Equities:
PRSF: 161%, annually 10.07%
PITTIKAL: 228.16%, annually 12.62%

Balanced:
PBF: 128.85%, annually 8.63%

Bond:
PBOND: 125.06%, annually 8.45%

The return is NAV to NAV, so this is not the nett return, this does not take the service charge into consideration.
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post Sep 14 2007, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(SK2 @ Sep 13 2007, 03:20 PM)
Can i ask which fund is better if i wan buy one of them as my unit trust?
Public islamic asia balance fund OR Public islamic islamic asia dividen fund?
please give me some opinion, and what the two diffrent between these fund...
thanks..
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My idea is actually about same as Cherroy. Balanced fund has same service charge as equity fund, but its portfolio in equity is only 40-60%, and the rest will be bond. This will lower the return when market is doing well. If you want to diversify, it's better you invest half in equity fund and half in bond fund. For the bond fund, you save about 6% service charge, as bond fund service charge is only 0.25%.

Dividend fund mainly invest in high dividend yield companies, where this kind of company is more stable and dividend income will be the stable income for the fund.
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post Sep 16 2007, 10:05 AM

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lwb,

Why not you share with us, how you can do it by having PM funds without paying service charge and the service charge can buy a nice car?
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post Sep 17 2007, 10:32 AM

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lwb,

I think this is normal...most of the people can't think out of the box. If everybody can think so, most people are rich man. In fact, most people in the world is poor. Maybe 10% of the people like you, can get rich.

That's why we are still struggling here to get rich.
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post Sep 19 2007, 09:59 AM

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Public Mutual will launch new fund again end of this month...don't know what fund is this...
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post Sep 24 2007, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Sep 23 2007, 01:46 PM)
er i thought you are an agent?
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Yes... biggrin.gif

The new fund will be launched I think by next week, called Public South East Asia Select Fund if not mistaken.
The details will be ready for agents today... tongue.gif


Added on September 24, 2007, 10:45 am
QUOTE(SK2 @ Sep 21 2007, 02:38 PM)
ya..i subscribe it during promotion period, but my agent told me that everymonth i topup  automatic from the bank, the service charge will follow the normal service charge, but not the promotion 1...i think i should ask my agent again about this matter..thanks dzi921...

can i ask if i now buy PAIF is it ok? cos this fund had been launch by past year...if i buy now, the selling price will be high sweat.gif ...how do u think?thanks..
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Only few new funds offering this promotion. PCSF doesn't offer this during offering period.
Only PFEPRF and PIABF offer this, your SI service charge will be 5.45% if you sign for that during offering period. For other funds, the service charge is still 6.5%.

This post has been edited by leekk8: Sep 24 2007, 10:45 AM
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post Sep 26 2007, 10:23 AM

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PBADF performs very well where it covers the service charge in around 1-2 months. Even it dropped last month, but now I think it's back to previous position. Anyway, now seemed like PCSF is going faster than PBADF.
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post Sep 27 2007, 10:33 AM

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Actually this unit trust is investing in share...so, the fund NAV is high or not, depends on the share in the fund portfolio is over valued or under valued.

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post Oct 3 2007, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(athlon 11 @ Oct 2 2007, 10:31 PM)
no,i am not mix,just i think,if bond fund's distribution need to pay goverment tax like equity fund,then i will invest in bank and insurance company's saving plan instead,28% tax on distribution is high.
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There will not be tax on all the distribution. For equity funds, it's only a small portion of distribution is taxed at 27%. Im not sure about bond funds. Anyway, single tier tax system will make this no different with saving plan, as I think insurance companies also need to pay tax.
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post Oct 8 2007, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(nissin @ Oct 7 2007, 01:07 AM)
in one year, investor are entitled to 2 FREE switching (equity to equity or equity to bond/MMF cos when u invest in equity u already paid 6.5% sales charge)

so in one year, after the FREE 2 times switching.. the 3rd time onwards will be charged switching fee of RM25.

If the first time u invest in bond, then u wanna switch to equity, then will kena 4.5% sales charge.

Always check with the comp or ur agent about these charges.. cos these are borne by investors.  smile.gif
I can't find this in Public Mutual prospectus...as I know, Public Mutual doesn't give 2 free switching per year...and the switching from equity fund to equity fund has RM25 charge. Only switching to money market fund is free of switching fee.


Added on October 8, 2007, 10:48 am
QUOTE(athlon 11 @ Oct 5 2007, 10:40 PM)
leek8,lwb,thanks for the answer.lwb,i get your meaning of nett now.
leek8,can you explain further this term meaning?thanks.

anyway,what i know is saving plan by bank or insurance company is tax to bank or insurance company,so we not feel the pain,while if bond fund be tax too,i know equity fund are directly tax to our so call distribution,if bond fund also tax 28%,since it return are minimal,this tax will be very pain and ended up maybe saving in saving plan that pay you 5 to 6.25%. better .this is my noob thinking,am i have any mistake here?please feel free to correct me.
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If Im not mistaken, only the income of the fund which come from dividend will be taxed...if capital gain, then no tax.

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post Oct 12 2007, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(Ninjitsu @ Oct 11 2007, 01:36 PM)
Recommend Public Mutual's South East Asia Select Fund. High risk with good returns. 70% to 90% will be invested in SEA's markets.

A short term investment while the regional markets are good.
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Unit trust investment is always recommended to be mid to long term, but not short term.

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