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TStmc
post Aug 12 2015, 08:44 AM, updated 11y ago

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I need to do a kitchen cabinet reno and caught between using a concrete top vs a solid top.

According to what I read is that solid top is still scratchable, and also cannot withstand heat.

While personally I have used a concrete top with tiles on it. It's still good after 10 years.

But it seems people now think concrete top is 'old fashion' and the renovators seems to recommend solid top.

Any recommendation and comment ?
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post Aug 12 2015, 08:49 AM

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i dun think solid surface is a good option... if you have budget you might wan to consider quartz or granite... quartz costlier but less non-porous.

refer the link below to compare between granite and quartz
http://countertopinvestigator.com/quartz-granite/
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QUOTE(tmc @ Aug 12 2015, 08:44 AM)
I need to do a kitchen cabinet reno and caught between using a concrete top vs a solid top.

According to what I read is that solid top is still scratchable, and also cannot withstand heat.

While personally I have used a concrete top with tiles  on it. It's still good after 10 years.

But it seems people now think concrete top is 'old fashion' and the renovators seems to recommend solid top.

Any recommendation and comment ?
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post Aug 12 2015, 09:17 AM

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My thread title says it's between concrete top vs solid top, wink.gif

The costs of the two I think is comparable.

I guess quatz will be a lot more costly ?
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post Aug 12 2015, 09:17 AM

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Sure concrete top with tiles. 10 years ago your tiles are smaller type, now you may consider 2*2 tiles.
Once reno done, you will put something on top of it and won't bother much on what type of material used.
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post Aug 12 2015, 10:40 AM

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u're not encourage to chop meat or put hot items on top of solid surface, that was informed by almost all contractors that i engaged.. u decide which to go for kitchen (wet)


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post Aug 12 2015, 10:47 AM

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if your cooking style used "lesung batu" rather than used blander...
or you need to chop meat is better you choose concrete top..
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post Aug 12 2015, 10:55 AM

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I need to also mention that if I rent the place to people, the tenants are not going to follow proper advise. They are not going to stick to rules. Tendency is for them to abuse the kitchen top.

If tenants are able to follow advise, I will only need to build a normal top ( not even a solid top ). wink.gif
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post Aug 12 2015, 02:18 PM

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I would say concrete top is more durable, just choose basic tiles to save budget (since you are going to rent your house). Basic tiles only costs around RM11.50 per piece for 2x2ft . Basic tiles = milky yellowish color.
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post Aug 12 2015, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(Kopilowyat @ Aug 12 2015, 02:18 PM)
I would say concrete top is more durable, just choose basic tiles to save budget (since you are going to rent your house). Basic tiles only costs around RM11.50 per piece for 2x2ft . Basic tiles = milky yellowish color.
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Are there big difference in price of the tiles ? - the basic type vs the higher end type

If the tiles are not so expensive, why is it some renovators say concrete top is actually more expensive than solid top ?

Or they just not interested to do concrete top, that's why they make it more expesive ?


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post Aug 12 2015, 05:29 PM

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i getting my black galaxy granite for my island kitchen top, the gloss is far better then Quatz.
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post Aug 12 2015, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(vios2002 @ Aug 12 2015, 05:29 PM)
i getting my black galaxy granite for my island kitchen top, the gloss is far better then Quatz.
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Did you get quotation to find out price differential between using granite and other types of tops ( such as solid top ) ?

Just curious.
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post Aug 13 2015, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(Kopilowyat @ Aug 12 2015, 02:18 PM)
I would say concrete top is more durable, just choose basic tiles to save budget (since you are going to rent your house). Basic tiles only costs around RM11.50 per piece for 2x2ft . Basic tiles = milky yellowish color.
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Are there big difference in price of the tiles ? - the basic type vs the higher end type

If the tiles are not so expensive, why is it some renovators say concrete top is actually more expensive than solid top ?

Or they just not interested to do concrete top, that's why they make it more expesive ?
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Basic tiles = normal ceramic tile ?

How much a typical porcelain tile ( higher density tile ) 2x2 will cost ?
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post Aug 13 2015, 01:24 PM

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granite. i use that and only spent rm 500 for tital material costs. very satisfy with black colour one
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post Aug 13 2015, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Aug 13 2015, 01:24 PM)
granite. i use that and only spent rm 500 for tital material costs. very satisfy with black colour one
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Why you buy material one ? Not the renovator ?

How many inches the top ? And that was how long ago ?

Now ringgit depreciate a lot wor ! cry.gif
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post Aug 13 2015, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(tmc @ Aug 13 2015, 01:31 PM)
Why you buy material one ? Not the renovator ?

How many inches the top ? And that was how long ago ?

Now ringgit depreciate a lot wor !  cry.gif
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because i am doing diy liao. just 2 inches enough. just 1 month ago.

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post Aug 13 2015, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Aug 13 2015, 03:22 PM)
because i am doing diy liao. just 2 inches enough. just 1 month ago.
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DIY ! Salute salute.

The granite they comes in piece by piece just like ceramic tiles right ?

What's the dimension and how much per piece ?


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post Aug 13 2015, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(tmc @ Aug 13 2015, 05:00 PM)
DIY ! Salute salute.

The granite they comes in piece by piece just like ceramic tiles right ?

What's the dimension and how much per piece ?
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diy using indon workers. piece by piece. i used 8 tiles.
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post Aug 14 2015, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Aug 13 2015, 03:22 PM)
because i am doing diy liao. just 2 inches enough. just 1 month ago.
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The black and white pattern is very modern...
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post Aug 14 2015, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(tmc @ Aug 12 2015, 08:16 PM)
Did you get quotation to find out price differential between using granite and other types of tops ( such as solid top ) ?

Just curious.
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yes, initial was plan to used solid 3 inch wood for 3ft x 7ft = the cost was way too expensive

then look for Quatz was pla to buy then come to the Quatz gloss was not as good as granite, lastly choose Galaxy Black granite.

they have 15mm & 20mm on both Quatz & Granite.


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post Aug 25 2015, 08:14 PM

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The Black Galaxy i choose earlier had some issue, now have to choose few more... and manage to get this Golden Chocolate from Brazil
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post Aug 25 2015, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(vios2002 @ Aug 14 2015, 03:11 PM)
yes, initial was plan to used solid 3 inch wood for 3ft x 7ft = the cost was way too expensive

then look for Quatz was pla to buy then come to the Quatz gloss was not as good  as granite, lastly choose Galaxy Black granite.

they have 15mm & 20mm on both Quatz & Granite.
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how much was that wood option?

and your final choice for granite how much? smile.gif
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post Aug 26 2015, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 25 2015, 08:21 PM)
how much was that wood option?

and your final choice for granite how much? smile.gif
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this Golden Chocolate was RM70 plus sqf if base on width 2ft run... if custom size like mine... is Plus plus ...
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post Aug 26 2015, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 25 2015, 08:21 PM)
how much was that wood option?

and your final choice for granite how much? smile.gif
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For 3in solid teak wood 3 x 7 around rm8k and above
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post Aug 26 2015, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(DeanWong118 @ Aug 26 2015, 07:10 PM)
For 3in solid teak wood 3 x 7 around rm8k and above
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post Aug 26 2015, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(vios2002 @ Aug 26 2015, 05:38 PM)
this Golden Chocolate was RM70 plus sqf  if base on width 2ft run... if custom size like mine... is Plus plus ...
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so 3x7 =21sf x 70 = 1.5++k range.. ok not bad compared to 8k solid wood.. sweat.gif
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If use tiles, make sure you use a good adhesive, as tile lapse you would find it start to go hollow if you have a lot of "chopping board" activities....
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QUOTE(tmc @ Aug 12 2015, 04:54 PM)
Are there big difference in price of the tiles ? - the basic type vs the higher end type

If the tiles are not so expensive, why is it some renovators say concrete top is actually more expensive than solid top ?

Or they just not interested to do concrete top, that's why they make it more expesive ?
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the tiles don't actually cost much, it's the tiling fee that the tiler charging that cost a lot, coz they charge by per foot run
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post Aug 27 2015, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 26 2015, 08:13 PM)
so 3x7 =21sf x 70 = 1.5++k range.. ok not bad compared to 8k solid wood.. sweat.gif
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Yes if base on 2ft width should be this price but for custom size cost will be different...

i got this Granite from Granite dealer price will be lower compare to kitchen cabinet manufacture or some showroom.

I had check few place example on Black Galaxy outside selling range between RM40 to RM 60 sqf for normal tabletop but if island width bigger then 2ft will be cost alot more.


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post Aug 27 2015, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(vios2002 @ Aug 27 2015, 12:50 PM)
Yes if base on 2ft width should be this price but for custom size cost will be different...

i got this Granite from Granite dealer price will be lower compare to kitchen cabinet manufacture or some showroom.

I had check few place example on Black Galaxy outside selling range between RM40 to RM 60 sqf for normal tabletop but if island width bigger then 2ft will be cost alot more.
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noted on the 2ft width price

where did you get your granite from? good prices . thumbup.gif
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post Aug 27 2015, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 27 2015, 12:52 PM)
noted on the 2ft width price

where did you get your granite from? good prices . thumbup.gif
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Look for Smilling Rock Mr Wong 012-3388280 location near subang airport
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post Aug 27 2015, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(vios2002 @ Aug 27 2015, 02:39 PM)
Look for Smilling Rock Mr Wong 012-3388280 location near subang airport
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post Aug 27 2015, 03:40 PM

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Any nice reliable granite supplier contact bro?

 

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