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post Aug 7 2015, 12:26 PM, updated 11y ago

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pls advice.
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post Aug 7 2015, 12:27 PM

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51% to be eligibile bumiputera

less than that or zero if you don't intend to get bumiputera status
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QUOTE(Eclipse123 @ Aug 7 2015, 12:26 PM)
pls advice.
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o%, ambik je bumi sarawak brows.gif
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post Aug 7 2015, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Aug 7 2015, 12:27 PM)
51% to be eligibile bumiputera

less than that or zero if you don't intend to get bumiputera status
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so means a company must have 51% bumiputera even if its a sdn bhd??

Whats bumiputera status for?
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post Aug 7 2015, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(Eclipse123 @ Aug 7 2015, 12:26 PM)
pls advice.
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None. Unless you are bidding for some government contracts, then you need the major shareholders to be bumi to stand a better chance.

Only listed Co. needs 30% bumi shares when listing or issuance of new shares. After listing or issuance of news shares, bumi shareholdings can drop below 30%.
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QUOTE(Eclipse123 @ Aug 7 2015, 12:29 PM)
so means a company must have 51% bumiputera even if its a sdn bhd??

Whats bumiputera status for?
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if u don't require bumi status, then no need loh
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QUOTE(oucheev @ Aug 7 2015, 12:30 PM)
None. Unless you are bidding for some government contracts, then you need the major shareholders to be bumi to stand a better chance.

Only listed Co. needs 30% bumi shares when listing or issuance of new shares. After listing or issuance of news shares, bumi shareholdings can drop below 30%.
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sometimes it is a pre-bidding requisite to be bumi before you can even obtain bidding forms
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QUOTE(Eclipse123 @ Aug 7 2015, 12:26 PM)
pls advice.
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no need bumi share in normal sdn. bhd. la...

it can be 100% foreigner owned if it's an unlisted (not selling shares at bursa etc) company...
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post Aug 7 2015, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(Eclipse123 @ Aug 7 2015, 12:29 PM)
so means a company must have 51% bumiputera even if its a sdn bhd??

Whats bumiputera status for?
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better chance to get govt. contract.

but basically all you need to do to get govt. contract despite being a non-bumi company is to simply be a partner/sub-con to the winning bidder...

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post Aug 7 2015, 12:38 PM

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This Bumi thing still appiles ah?

I thought you can just "suap" for contract.

Knowing now "suapan" is not bribery.
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post Aug 7 2015, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(Pepper @ Aug 7 2015, 12:28 PM)
o%, ambik je bumi sarawak brows.gif
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Bumi Sabah better, marry awek sumandak and your children entitled to tongkat. brows.gif

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QUOTE(oathless @ Aug 7 2015, 12:38 PM)
This Bumi thing still appiles ah?

I thought you can just "suap" for contract.

Knowing now "suapan" is not bribery.
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derma .....derma

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post Aug 7 2015, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(oathless @ Aug 7 2015, 12:38 PM)
This Bumi thing still appiles ah?

I thought you can just "suap" for contract.

Knowing now "suapan" is not bribery.
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Still applies but abused by a lot of people. Just partner with a Malay loh. Alibaba style still going strong today.
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sdn. bhd. need meh?
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post Aug 7 2015, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(Varezart @ Aug 7 2015, 12:47 PM)
Bumi  ini milik siapa
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post Aug 7 2015, 12:57 PM

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Because many venture into business
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post Aug 7 2015, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(Eclipse123 @ Aug 7 2015, 12:29 PM)
so means a company must have 51% bumiputera even if its a sdn bhd??

Whats bumiputera status for?
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For tongkat la.. What else? Donation?
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post Aug 7 2015, 12:59 PM

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0%…….u only need bumi if u r to be involve in gov project
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QUOTE(Human10 @ Aug 7 2015, 12:39 PM)
Bumi Sabah better, marry awek sumandak and your children entitled to tongkat. brows.gif
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post Aug 7 2015, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Aug 7 2015, 12:39 PM)
Bumi Sabah better, marry awek sumandak and your children entitled to tongkat. brows.gif
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No point . Once TPPA is implemented, all unfair practice will be under scrutiny from TPPA law. Failing to comply the rule will result in heavy punishment.

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QUOTE(ajax91 @ Aug 7 2015, 01:08 PM)
racial equality? mana?
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QUOTE(ajax91 @ Aug 7 2015, 01:08 PM)
racial equality? mana?
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That is why the government want to sign the TPPA which is a new law set up to prevent any unfair and racist policies.

However, most people are against it because it is inherent in their nature to corruption and racism.




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post Aug 7 2015, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Aug 7 2015, 12:34 PM)
better chance to get govt. contract.

but basically all you need to do to get govt. contract despite being a non-bumi company is to simply be a partner/sub-con to the winning bidder...

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bos, when your bizness in petrol station lot starting? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Eclipse123 @ Aug 7 2015, 12:29 PM)
so means a company must have 51% bumiputera even if its a sdn bhd??

Whats bumiputera status for?
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Nope. Anyone can open a sdn bhd without bumiputera.
Just that u cant bid for gomen projects.

can always get sub work though iinm.

korrect me if ayam wrong
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 7 2015, 01:10 PM)
bos, when your bizness in petrol station lot starting?  biggrin.gif
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apa ni I dun have land much less capital to start a petrol pump station biz la aiyyyooooohhhh
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Aug 7 2015, 01:14 PM)
Nope. Anyone can open a sdn bhd without bumiputera.
Just that u cant bid for gomen projects.

can always get sub work though iinm.

korrect me if ayam wrong
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its common. bumi get contracts, then sub it to non bumi and shake leg. easy money
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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Aug 7 2015, 01:15 PM)
apa ni I dun have land much less capital to start a petrol pump station biz la aiyyyooooohhhh
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i mean.. i tot u want to open a spot at fliz punya petrol station ma biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Toyoi @ Aug 7 2015, 01:36 PM)
what if now JKR, CIDB call help from Kastam to trace ur GST records and found out same project but sub-sub to many ali baba goons..??

LoL... better complete it 90% own work rather than sub it 90%...
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whats the prob with sub out projects?

ur company directors hire a ceo to run the company, ceo hire hod, hod hire section manager, manager hire u to do the work.
can director say no? all work must be done by ceo?
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post Aug 7 2015, 01:39 PM

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You can "rent" company license/name for bidding government contracts.

But bear in mind, the payment is very very slow. But banks loan 100% approval for government contracts. Got pros and cons
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Now bumi also no use. You have to be crony to get government project.
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deswai lots of meleis pengarah after retired from gomen department they get invited to become a sleeping director in many chinaman construction kompenis, they re getting paid in hundred of thousands and get a free Masili / BM car along with ahmad

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No need la....who say you need to?

Even if you want to bid gov contract, you can just partner bumi companies and then pay them some % and ask them to just sit quiet once corner

Or you can do like my old friend last time, he listed some of his cleaner as his directors.
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QUOTE(PhakFuhZai @ Aug 7 2015, 01:52 PM)
deswai lots of meleis pengarah after retired from gomen department they get invited to become a sleeping director in many chinaman construction kompenis, they re getting paid in hundred of thousands and get a free Masili / BM car along with ahmad
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Wrong.

they are not just 'sleeping' . They provide valuable network and contacts.
And like in other industry in other parts of the world, networks and contacts and information is not free
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QUOTE(Eclipse123 @ Aug 7 2015, 12:29 PM)
so means a company must have 51% bumiputera even if its a sdn bhd??

Whats bumiputera status for?
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Lucifer means 51% is needed to be a bumi sdn bhd
If there is no bumi in the sdn bhd, then its not a bumi sdn bhd but still a sdn bhd
Bumi sdn bhd means u can take certain tender reserved for bumi sdn bhd
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Aug 7 2015, 02:03 PM)
Wrong.

they are not just 'sleeping' . They provide valuable network and contacts.
And like in other industry in other parts of the world, networks and contacts and information is not free
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Really? Jaguh kampung network? Lol!
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Only shareholders? What about composition of senior management?
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Aug 7 2015, 02:03 PM)
Wrong.

they are not just 'sleeping' . They provide valuable network and contacts.
And like in other industry in other parts of the world, networks and contacts and information is not free
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yes, other than the occasional "networking" teh tarik event and document signings,

the rest of the time they are pretty useless

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Aug 7 2015, 12:27 PM)
51% to be eligibile bumiputera

less than that or zero if you don't intend to get bumiputera status
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btw, luci, u interested tak if i supply bras to you and you resell?
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 7 2015, 01:16 PM)
i mean.. i tot u want to open a spot at fliz punya petrol station ma biggrin.gif
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nanti la need to finish some work in kl, maybe 2016/2017 baru blh full time live in jb...
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if more than 51% can get donation
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get banggala as ur bumi partner
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QUOTE(Eclipse123 @ Aug 7 2015, 12:26 PM)
pls advice.
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Just formed without bumi status.

Nowadays, to get gomen jobs, you need big big cable and also depend on luck. Many 100% bumi companies also going to holland now; connection not strong enough.
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QUOTE(endau02 @ Aug 7 2015, 02:06 PM)
Really? Jaguh kampung network? Lol!
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Only low IQ people doesnt know that it is not easy to build contact and network inside gov agency....with all the layers and red tapes.
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QUOTE(PhakFuhZai @ Aug 7 2015, 02:14 PM)
yes, other than the occasional "networking" teh tarik event and document signings,

the rest of the time they are pretty useless
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You pay for their 'information' ...and it is not easy for your partner to get into the networking circle and climb up the gov power brokers family in the first place. For sure he already spend a LOT of money, dignity and face to be there.

This kind of thing is not free to acquired.
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0% or 51% total... depending on ur nature of business.
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Aug 7 2015, 02:49 PM)
Only low IQ people doesnt know that it is not easy to build contact and network inside gov agency....with all the layers and red tapes.
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Haha... non bumi sme now dun give any jimak getting business locally. They do business in thailand n indon... and the business there is getting bigger... y care about jaguh kampung?
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Aug 7 2015, 02:02 PM)
No need la....who say you need to?

Even if you want to bid gov contract, you can just partner bumi companies and then pay them some % and ask them to just sit quiet once corner

Or you can do like my old friend last time, he listed some of his cleaner as his directors.
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I just recently found out that one of our director is actually our front desk lady sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ThisIsAter @ Aug 7 2015, 03:10 PM)
I just recently found out that one of our director is actually our front desk lady  sweat.gif
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Haha lot of current company doing that. This is called as smart move brows.gif
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QUOTE(endau02 @ Aug 7 2015, 03:09 PM)
Haha... non bumi sme now dun give any jimak getting business locally. They do business in thailand n indon... and the business there is getting bigger... y care about jaguh kampung?
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Here it is easy to squeeze profit margin and songlap more ...you think it is easy to do that in Indon and Thailand?

That's why I say you need to learn more...
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QUOTE(Eclipse123 @ Aug 7 2015, 12:29 PM)
so means a company must have 51% bumiputera even if its a sdn bhd??

Whats bumiputera status for?
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So that when they ask u bumi ini milik sapa u can answer them
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Aug 7 2015, 12:27 PM)
51% to be eligibile bumiputera

less than that or zero if you don't intend to get bumiputera status
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If serani buka sdn bhd apa maciam? Bumi ke tarak bumi
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QUOTE(Toyoi @ Aug 7 2015, 03:39 PM)
u mean learn this formula issit:

know-how = 1pct suksess... know-who = 99pct suksess!!
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Aug 7 2015, 02:58 PM)
You pay for their 'information' ...and it is not easy for your partner to get into the networking circle and climb up the gov power brokers family in the first place. For sure he already spend a LOT of money, dignity and face to be there.

This kind of thing is not free to acquired.
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inb4 this is not a requirement in singapore


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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Aug 7 2015, 02:22 PM)
nanti la need to finish some work in kl, maybe 2016/2017 baru blh full time live in jb...
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oh kl based wan ah.. u doing games and pc stuff? drool.gif

then if free, we should tt soon biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Aug 7 2015, 03:36 PM)
Here it is easy to squeeze profit margin and songlap more ...you think it is easy to do that in Indon and Thailand?

That's why I say you need to learn more...
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Haha... open ur eyes lar.. get out of ur tempurung... many engineering sme is heading for foreign business.
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QUOTE(endau02 @ Aug 7 2015, 04:10 PM)
Haha... open ur eyes lar.. get out of ur tempurung... many engineering sme is heading for foreign business.
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But outside cannot songlap....
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In another words they are sleeping partner


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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Aug 7 2015, 04:41 PM)
But outside cannot songlap....
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Lol!
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QUOTE(Davez89 @ Aug 7 2015, 03:41 PM)
If serani buka sdn bhd apa maciam?  Bumi ke tarak bumi
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u have to refer to the definition of serani

diff agencies have diff definition

serani is considered bumiputra and eligibile to open ASB account


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QUOTE(lucifah @ Aug 7 2015, 08:03 PM)
u have to refer to the definition of serani

diff agencies have diff definition

serani is considered bumiputra and eligibile to open ASB account
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I'm serani and I do have asb but just wondering am I considered as bumi or just partial since asb was an exception by agong or some sort that's why the minority race serani can get it.. what sort of benefits we have besides asb?


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