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How many % bumi needed in a sdn bhd?, starting a company
How many % bumi needed in a sdn bhd?, starting a company
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Aug 7 2015, 12:26 PM, updated 11y ago
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pls advice.
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Aug 7 2015, 12:27 PM
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51% to be eligibile bumiputera
less than that or zero if you don't intend to get bumiputera status |
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Aug 7 2015, 12:28 PM
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51%
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Aug 7 2015, 12:28 PM
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Aug 7 2015, 12:29 PM
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Aug 7 2015, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(Eclipse123 @ Aug 7 2015, 12:26 PM) None. Unless you are bidding for some government contracts, then you need the major shareholders to be bumi to stand a better chance. Only listed Co. needs 30% bumi shares when listing or issuance of new shares. After listing or issuance of news shares, bumi shareholdings can drop below 30%. |
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Aug 7 2015, 12:31 PM
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Aug 7 2015, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(oucheev @ Aug 7 2015, 12:30 PM) None. Unless you are bidding for some government contracts, then you need the major shareholders to be bumi to stand a better chance. sometimes it is a pre-bidding requisite to be bumi before you can even obtain bidding formsOnly listed Co. needs 30% bumi shares when listing or issuance of new shares. After listing or issuance of news shares, bumi shareholdings can drop below 30%. |
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Aug 7 2015, 12:32 PM
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Aug 7 2015, 12:33 PM
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better 100%
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Aug 7 2015, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(Eclipse123 @ Aug 7 2015, 12:29 PM) better chance to get govt. contract.but basically all you need to do to get govt. contract despite being a non-bumi company is to simply be a partner/sub-con to the winning bidder... |
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Aug 7 2015, 12:38 PM
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This Bumi thing still appiles ah?
I thought you can just "suap" for contract. Knowing now "suapan" is not bribery. |
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Aug 7 2015, 12:39 PM
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Aug 7 2015, 12:40 PM
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Aug 7 2015, 12:46 PM
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sdn. bhd. need meh?
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Aug 7 2015, 12:47 PM
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Bumi ini milik siapa
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Aug 7 2015, 12:55 PM
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Your money is mine
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Aug 7 2015, 12:58 PM
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Many Malay goes into business
Now rental is very gooding Because many venture into business |
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0%…….u only need bumi if u r to be involve in gov project
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racial equality? mana?
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QUOTE(Toyoi @ Aug 7 2015, 01:36 PM) what if now JKR, CIDB call help from Kastam to trace ur GST records and found out same project but sub-sub to many ali baba goons..?? whats the prob with sub out projects?LoL... better complete it 90% own work rather than sub it 90%... ur company directors hire a ceo to run the company, ceo hire hod, hod hire section manager, manager hire u to do the work. can director say no? all work must be done by ceo? |
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Aug 7 2015, 01:39 PM
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You can "rent" company license/name for bidding government contracts.
But bear in mind, the payment is very very slow. But banks loan 100% approval for government contracts. Got pros and cons |
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Aug 7 2015, 01:41 PM
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how to open a petrol station in malaysia?
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Aug 7 2015, 01:45 PM
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Now bumi also no use. You have to be crony to get government project.
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Aug 7 2015, 01:52 PM
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i wonder does TS know the meaning of SDN BHD at first place
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Aug 7 2015, 01:52 PM
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deswai lots of meleis pengarah after retired from gomen department they get invited to become a sleeping director in many chinaman construction kompenis, they re getting paid in hundred of thousands and get a free Masili / BM car along with ahmad
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Aug 7 2015, 01:55 PM
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Mcm Zimbabwe je...
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how to open a money changer?
so many ppl change money now.. |
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Aug 7 2015, 02:02 PM
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No need la....who say you need to?
Even if you want to bid gov contract, you can just partner bumi companies and then pay them some % and ask them to just sit quiet once corner Or you can do like my old friend last time, he listed some of his cleaner as his directors. |
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QUOTE(PhakFuhZai @ Aug 7 2015, 01:52 PM) deswai lots of meleis pengarah after retired from gomen department they get invited to become a sleeping director in many chinaman construction kompenis, they re getting paid in hundred of thousands and get a free Masili / BM car along with ahmad Wrong.they are not just 'sleeping' . They provide valuable network and contacts. And like in other industry in other parts of the world, networks and contacts and information is not free |
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Aug 7 2015, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(Eclipse123 @ Aug 7 2015, 12:29 PM) Lucifer means 51% is needed to be a bumi sdn bhdIf there is no bumi in the sdn bhd, then its not a bumi sdn bhd but still a sdn bhd Bumi sdn bhd means u can take certain tender reserved for bumi sdn bhd |
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Only shareholders? What about composition of senior management?
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Aug 7 2015, 02:03 PM) Wrong. yes, other than the occasional "networking" teh tarik event and document signings, they are not just 'sleeping' . They provide valuable network and contacts. And like in other industry in other parts of the world, networks and contacts and information is not free the rest of the time they are pretty useless This post has been edited by PhakFuhZai: Aug 7 2015, 02:14 PM |
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if more than 51% can get donation
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Aug 7 2015, 02:26 PM
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yup, pretty much our country being farked-up by bumis and non-bumis alike~
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Aug 7 2015, 02:40 PM
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get banggala as ur bumi partner
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QUOTE(PhakFuhZai @ Aug 7 2015, 02:14 PM) yes, other than the occasional "networking" teh tarik event and document signings, You pay for their 'information' ...and it is not easy for your partner to get into the networking circle and climb up the gov power brokers family in the first place. For sure he already spend a LOT of money, dignity and face to be there.the rest of the time they are pretty useless This kind of thing is not free to acquired. |
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Aug 7 2015, 03:02 PM
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0% or 51% total... depending on ur nature of business.
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Aug 7 2015, 02:49 PM) Only low IQ people doesnt know that it is not easy to build contact and network inside gov agency....with all the layers and red tapes. Haha... non bumi sme now dun give any jimak getting business locally. They do business in thailand n indon... and the business there is getting bigger... y care about jaguh kampung? |
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Aug 7 2015, 02:02 PM) No need la....who say you need to? I just recently found out that one of our director is actually our front desk lady Even if you want to bid gov contract, you can just partner bumi companies and then pay them some % and ask them to just sit quiet once corner Or you can do like my old friend last time, he listed some of his cleaner as his directors. |
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QUOTE(endau02 @ Aug 7 2015, 03:09 PM) Haha... non bumi sme now dun give any jimak getting business locally. They do business in thailand n indon... and the business there is getting bigger... y care about jaguh kampung? Here it is easy to squeeze profit margin and songlap more ...you think it is easy to do that in Indon and Thailand?That's why I say you need to learn more... |
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None. Oh wai....
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Aug 7 2015, 02:58 PM) You pay for their 'information' ...and it is not easy for your partner to get into the networking circle and climb up the gov power brokers family in the first place. For sure he already spend a LOT of money, dignity and face to be there. inb4 this is not a requirement in singaporeThis kind of thing is not free to acquired. |
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Aug 7 2015, 03:36 PM) Here it is easy to squeeze profit margin and songlap more ...you think it is easy to do that in Indon and Thailand? Haha... open ur eyes lar.. get out of ur tempurung... many engineering sme is heading for foreign business.That's why I say you need to learn more... |
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In another words they are sleeping partner
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Aug 7 2015, 08:03 PM) u have to refer to the definition of serani I'm serani and I do have asb but just wondering am I considered as bumi or just partial since asb was an exception by agong or some sort that's why the minority race serani can get it.. what sort of benefits we have besides asb? diff agencies have diff definition serani is considered bumiputra and eligibile to open ASB account |
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