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post Jan 9 2008, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(xtorm @ Jan 9 2008, 04:36 PM)
i think they are just right tho...
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Yup, I think they're OK. If fancy editing with Photoshop, a little more contrast will do, and ever so slightly little more brightness. smile.gif
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post Jan 9 2008, 10:21 PM

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Very nice pictures KTCY!

What's the exposure time on all these photos? I think need very steady hands right? Did you try ISO200 with EV-0.5~-1 (or even -2)? Should have the shutter operate in shorter time although noisier, I'm curious about the ISO performance as CCD normally has lower noise than CMOS. hmm.gif

I didn't go hunt for the phone today as I only go Pavilion to play around with the Nokia set I'm looking at for my father, see which one is better. Going to hunt tomorrow at sg wang or lowyat hopefully some shop got la... sad.gif

EDIT: Just check the EXIF, 4 sec on ISO50, obviously ISO50 has very low noise but is it more than 4 sec shutter time? hmm.gif Maybe you should try combination of ISO100 without EV or ISO200 with EV negative value as mentioned above? hmm.gif

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post Jan 9 2008, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ Jan 9 2008, 10:22 PM)
u make me feel like selling off my p1i and get this lol
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That is exchanging smartphone feature for super camera woh...Unless you don't use any smartphone features at all? hmm.gif
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post Jan 9 2008, 10:35 PM

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if tomorrow I can't get the imobile then I might just get the Nokia 2630...Or ask my father again see which one he prefer, and get from Seaedge (but since only 3 units, guess many people will bid on it lol)...Oh well... sweat.gif
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post Jan 10 2008, 12:08 AM

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I saw ghost lol! Damn impressive night shots... rclxms.gif

...But I still wonder how a fast night mode shot will do...My N95 is usually 1/5sec on night shots with ISO800. hmm.gif

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post Jan 10 2008, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jan 10 2008, 12:57 AM)
Yeap. Max is 1GB but using T-flash card smile.gif
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Damn...Kinda kill the deal ler... sad.gif
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post Jan 10 2008, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jan 10 2008, 01:12 AM)
Take it or leave it whistling.gif
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Yeah lo, can't do anything what. smile.gif

QUOTE(shockk @ Jan 10 2008, 01:21 AM)
T-Flash = Micro SD

T-Flash was the name when it was first introduced in phones such as Moto E398.
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Sure can only 1GB? Put in 2GB also no use? Then I think buy something else for my father lo... sweat.gif


Added on January 10, 2008, 1:25 am
QUOTE(dragna @ Jan 10 2008, 01:03 AM)
Whats so bad about 1GB?
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Because my father definitely need more than that and I'm very sure about it. nod.gif

Even me also cannot accept it. sweat.gif

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post Jan 10 2008, 01:50 AM

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So sad ler... sweat.gif Maybe buy something else la. Thanks for the info... laugh.gif

By the way if you want to ask me why 1GB not enough, cause I lazy to delete and transfer at first, bringing more than satu keping 1GB card for extensive photo shooting during a (for example) 7 days vacation and above ain't enough and bringing more memory cards is quite troublesome for me as I can lost it quite easily. And most importantly, I love to store many videos since this phone is also capable of playing videos, moreover got video out so if want to show friends many photos 1GB cannot really fit in... sad.gif

It's just me though, so don't take my personal opinion so seriously, this is still a superb phone afterall, just didn't quite meet my need. My father also like that one lol. laugh.gif

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post Jan 10 2008, 01:22 PM

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Bump for you... brows.gif

Yeah post the bulk in sales section and put the very big link in your sig. wink.gif

I think I don't join this bulk lo, my father desperately need a phone to use... smile.gif
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post Jan 11 2008, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(dragna @ Jan 10 2008, 11:53 PM)
Got a few pictures posted in a previous few pages.
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I don't see any, they're all slow shutter and low ISO. wink.gif
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post Jan 11 2008, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jan 11 2008, 12:49 AM)
Unless you manually change the ISO, else the ISO will likely to stay at ISO-50 sleep.gif
Never experience ISO-800 or higher. ISO-200 also never unless I manually set it tongue.gif
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That's why, me and worm worm ask you to purposely set to ISO-200 and take some ok mah? notworthy.gif
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post Jan 11 2008, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jan 11 2008, 12:57 AM)
Give me 5 minutes. I do it now smile.gif
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Thanky... biggrin.gif Waiting for the nice nice pictures... biggrin.gif
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post Jan 11 2008, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jan 11 2008, 01:11 AM)
Sorry but to disappoint you. Anything above ISO-50 seems got noise. I use attachment so that you can view it in full size mode as the photo reach 1.8MB.

[attachmentid=376330]
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Thanks for the effort! biggrin.gif

Yeah I can see there're lots of noises, more than I thought in the first place... hmm.gif High ISO is important for capturing moving objects in the low light condition, and less chance for handshake too. It's not a battle of who has the highest ISO here, it's to know more about the camera performance so can choose the balanced setting. Although the result is noisy, the detail is still all there, maybe i-mobile didn't put any noise reduction algorithm or hardware chip at all? hmm.gif

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post Jan 11 2008, 02:12 AM

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I can't read the EXIF too, when download by "save target to" all I get was only 700kb JPEG and the EXIF all lost...So dunno what's the ISO setting for the picture. Can you check check, KTCY? hmm.gif Just right click on the jpeg file, click Properties, click Summary tab and change to advance view if it's in simple mode.
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jan 11 2008, 09:30 AM)
Not hot la. Just that feel bored answering same question over and over again.
Seriously no idea how come it will become so big. Sorry mate. Can't help up.
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Haiya nevermind la at least we know how the phone can perform with auto setting. Again thanks for the effort! wink.gif
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QUOTE(Seaedge @ Jan 11 2008, 11:05 AM)
unfortunately, yes... if you type chinese sms alot... have think think ohhh...
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Ah, this further confirm that my choice is correct, just bought an Avaxx Nokia 2630 for my dad... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(shockk @ Jan 11 2008, 05:08 PM)
Wow. 5 people already asking want to buy. sweat.gif laugh.gif
DSLR got already. xD

iPhone bulk no news yet. sad.gif And even if I get iPhone (and if I don't have a camera) I'll still keep this 902 since iPhone camera is *ahem*. laugh.gif
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Then can fill up the bulk set seaedge is offering, why not? sweat.gif

I'd rather get ipod touch + keeping the 902, at least warranty no worries and got best of both world... icon_rolleyes.gif I heard firmware 1.1.3 added lots of security, if upgrade directly from jailbreak 1.1.2 whole phone will brick...Of course can wait for hacks but waiting can get old easily... sweat.gif
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post Jan 13 2008, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(xtorm @ Jan 13 2008, 01:59 PM)
http://www.cameras.co.uk/camera-reviews/ph...-70&title=Canon IXUS 70

seem like imobile 902 even capture pics better then ixus70

the ixus70 seems to have problem capturing white on bright sunlight like my u600

ixus is 7.1mp ccd, its arond rm800++

any expert on digicam please coment abt the quality of picture taken by 902 compare to digital cam...smile.gif
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I find no problem with the pictures in the link you posted... hmm.gif And I don't see 902 pictures any "better" than the ixus pictures? hmm.gif

To my eyes 902 is some kind of overprocessed but in a good way, the ixus pictures look more natural. smile.gif

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post Jan 13 2008, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(shockk @ Jan 13 2008, 02:43 PM)
hmm. i don't think it is suitable for that. indoor shots are very hard to do with the 902 as you have to keep your hands super stable and you must make sure your subject (especially people) are completely still to get a good shot. this is what bugs me the most as the 902 cannot use high ISO like other phone cams. sad.gif
plus, the xenon also works at short range only, and it is not strong enough to be used as a fill-flash like real digicams.
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That's why I asked KTCY to do a high ISO shot and post it up for this very simple reason. smile.gif

regarding the flash, is it same with N82 or weaker? Cause from what I saw N82 seems to have super strong flash consider it's a camera phone... hmm.gif
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post Jan 13 2008, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(shockk @ Jan 13 2008, 03:33 PM)
I can't tell the difference. I asked my bro about the 902 flash and he says even my K800i's flash was brighter. sweat.gif

On photographs, the flash will seem stronger for other phones as I believe they are using high ISO than the 902.
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Yup the N82 flash shots a lot are ISO-800. But strange thing is with the same ISO-800 N82 seems to perform better than N95...Which makes the N82 even better for flash photos... hmm.gif

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