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post Jun 15 2020, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(winners8 @ Jun 15 2020, 01:44 PM)
Hi guys, just an update:

I had also forward my complaint twice to lichunrong@proton.com but it was never replied although neither were the 2 emails being returned.  So, there should indeed be such a valid email address.  Really cannot trust that Chinese CEO as well.

Anyway, after only my 3rd email to PROTON CARE and 11 days later, some one from PROTON EDAR SDN BHD in Larkin, JB, called me.  He told me that he'll get their KL office to remove this record from their system and prove to me via WhatsApp.

I asked him how can they ever do such a falsification record for their customers?  He then claimed that usually, they will know that the job is still not done and will call the owner within 2 days to arrange for an appointment to do this job, which is the CVT damper replacement recall, requiring a 2-day job.  I told him that it's already over 2 weeks but nobody has called me.  He just can't answer further.

Anyway, after this incident and also the false record of my CVT oil replacement last year (which I did not replace nor pay for it, but was also recorded as being done on their system), I doubt I'll ever buy the next PROTON vehicle again although I have to admit that it is good value for its price.  There was also my alternator case which I had personally saw them removing it and brought it to somewhere within their workshop when I have never complained of any electrical problem.  Thereafter, my charging voltage is no longer the usual 14.4 Volts but only at about 13.9 Volts.  Although I have no proof that they could have swapped my good alternator, but from the immediate differences in the charging voltage shown, definitely something had been done in relation to the alternator. 

In fact, a new PROTON vehicle leaving its factory is quite well in condition and performance.  The biggest problem is their extremely bad and even fraudulent after-sales service as in my case.  I've also heard from my neighbor that the HONDA service centers are equally bad, probably because they are all under the same DRB HICOM group.  Looks like I'll have to look to PERODUA or NISSAN for my next purchase.  PROTON has lost a loyal customer.
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Nissan Tan Chong Motor (TCM) also quite bad. especially for warranty claim
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QUOTE(winners8 @ Jun 15 2020, 07:17 PM)
Last time when I owned a RENAULT in Singapore, one of the headlamps had water vapors after a rainfall.  Immediately they replaced a pair for me with no questions asked.  For my PREVE, they said that if the vapors will dry out after 30 minutes of headlamp operation, it is not covered by warranty.  They are totally trying to absolve from responsibility because after 30 minutes of headlight operation, whatever bloody vapors would have been evaporated by the heat within the headlamp housing.  It's not flooded with water to begin with.  What crap are they trying to reason with me?  A total bullshit.
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In my experience, u can go to other branch if sc start giving that reason. Been there on my leaking driveshaft Accord. Semenyih SC raise up the car, together view the car from below with technician. The sc guys (maybe manager) with me together, they concluded it is normal to leaking some oil.

Straight go to new era kajang Sc, repeat same, but sc manager start taking parts no for warranty claim.
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post Jun 18 2020, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(winners8 @ Jun 18 2020, 02:50 PM)
With this kind of dishonest and insincere after-sales service they give to their car owners, I don't think my next vehicle will be another PROTON, although I have been interested in their X70.  I had started with SAGA in 2010 and the PREVE in 2015.  Now, no more PROTON for me and neither will I recommend to friends and relatives as I will warn them of their scams for the service and warranty claims.  They have tarnished their own reputation and they only have themselves to blame.

If there is any PROTON management staff reading this post, I hope you'll realized how bad your Service Centers are performing, to the extent of even faking repairs and recalls without even doing the job.  This is tantamount to cheating your customers.  Don't take your customers as fools. vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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In my experience, doesn't matter what brand, there will be one or two bad SC which make people eventually hate that brand. In my case, the Semenyih SC was the worst SC I ever faced it on Honda. Even quarrel with the SC branch "manager" as they said leaking oil on driveshaft is normal in Accord hence cannot proceed warranty. He think Im so stupid & not know about car. Big F to that SC.

However, went to Kajang New Era, as well as Sg Long Kajang SC, they very entertain for my warranty claim. Go there, verify, take pictures, straight away come out with warranty claim & part no, was given 2 weeks for parts to arrive

I believe Proton too has few SC which was with good review.

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post Jun 23 2020, 06:17 AM

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QUOTE(bentosiba @ Jun 22 2020, 10:23 PM)
my preve passenger side front and back carpet wet...went to a workshop to check and pomen said windows seal & aircond drainage is fine no problemo...after checking they still cannot identify wheres the water coming from  sweat.gif  ...help anyone?
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Suggest sc better. This problem is rarely happen to proton or mostly Japanese car. Quite happen to most Peugeot car btw.
For Peugeot, it is related to Aircond system.

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post Jun 23 2020, 06:22 AM

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QUOTE(winners8 @ Jun 20 2020, 07:48 PM)
For the PROTON EDAR SDN BHD's SC in Larkin, JB, it is tantamount to a criminal offend.  How can they ever falsify a service job into their system without even performing the actual task?  And this had happened to me twice, not the first time, by this same SC.  I wonder how many other unassuming owners had been similarly cheated by them already?  And that bloody Chinese CEO (Li Chun Rong) is equally bad by not replying to my 2 emails.  If the one at the top is already rotten, how much better can you expect from his subordinates?
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Not sure. But if it related to criminal or commercial, by logging a police report under commercial act report is much better and then forward it to the ceo/ proton care email etc. Of cz they will look at it.

Btw why went there 2nd time if know the sc problem.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Aug 27 2020, 02:11 PM)
proton got sell such filter? i didnt know.. didnt ask too. maybe my aircon need to clean the blower, cos never clean before lol.
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Since no filter, suggest u buy aircond spray foam cleaner and do it on diy to clean the blower


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post Aug 28 2020, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Aug 28 2020, 08:41 AM)
this foam cleaner need open up the whole thing right.. seems like too hassle..
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no need. just open up your dashboard drawer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOIdMnQoE_w

I bought 8 Line from shoope settled on my 2 cars.

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Aug 28 2020, 09:59 AM)
Ok thanks for the info. Will try tis out, cos i tot spray foam the foam will still be there..

I see the video is only the filter, u mean is spray foam on the filter? Or the blower?
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the blower. u will need to remove the filter at 1st place. some said preve, suprima dont have aircond filter from factory.
most car had that and need to remove it b4 spray this foam.

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Aug 28 2020, 12:16 PM)
ohh ok.. so just spray and leave it there? i searched shopee, they no ship to sarawak because is pressurize can sad.gif

bro this one got fake shit or not? cos i see their website is selling rm70, but shopee rm35 lol.. i found 1 lazada punya ada sell in Miri, plan to get that.
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Im bought it at shopee at rm35. My office mate is a seller of 8 line at shopee, it originally taken from hq.

Just that hq ask to sell it at rm50/can starting next month based on his info.
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QUOTE(naveenkalai7 @ Aug 28 2020, 01:10 PM)
Hi all, my preve got this prob.. when slowing down, the car jerks then stalls.. Happen few times past 3 days but only when slowing down.. cruising no issue..

Any idea what could be the cause?
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Been happened to my office car preve cfe. Send sc, they update the tcu software, now ok.
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post Sep 2 2020, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(naveenkalai7 @ Sep 1 2020, 10:51 PM)
Hi bro, thanks for the info, will bring it to nearby SC.. did SC charge for it?

car no longer under warranty and after that servicing at normal workshop only..
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Not sure about charges price as it under office car to take care. Believe it is but not expansive
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QUOTE(caloyness @ Oct 20 2020, 09:53 AM)
why not preve? haha

1. cvt - i know a lot of preve user with 150km - 200km mileage, proof it can last long.
2. aircon relay (fusebox design fail) - true, once in a while it happens. just bring to SC and they will fix, it's a quick fix anyways.
you will notice this when AC is not cold but all components have no leak and no issues, then its fuse box issue.

if you want reliability and longer wear and tear, dont get the turbo version stick with non- turbo.
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isn't Suprima use later design CVT from Punch vs Preve?
if it so, Suprima a better buy
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QUOTE(mr_geforce @ Oct 29 2020, 09:29 PM)
2014... the price now is around 2X,000 .. no value... some even is around 1x,000
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Yes. My office also in the midst of letting go the 1st batch preve cfe (4 airbag) for less than rm20k each.
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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Dec 1 2020, 07:26 AM)
just changed to new batter this year during end MCO time
probably spark plug...
but if goto prevoc fb group, there got few different suggestions about this
the usual cause of this issue is OCH, which i know about this on the 3rd or 4th year since this model launched
anyway, is spark plugs changes according to mileage or according to duration?
for example, engine oil need to change every 5000km or 6 months, regardless u drive alot or no, when 6 months duration, need to change engine oil...
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I suggest u go to workshop with those ecu reader. Straight away can detect what of the root cause of problem.
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QUOTE(RGRaj @ Dec 3 2020, 02:43 PM)
Just bought a silver 2015 manual version with 6 airbags for $19.5k. Car jus did 50900 km. Proton cars r gud to buy used. But mus c condition oso la.
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My office is cfe version. Condition exterior wise not so great. But any problems were send to SC while under office taking care.
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QUOTE(MechaHerc @ Feb 5 2021, 12:55 PM)
Hi guys, i'm planning to buy 2ndhand preve. Any tips can share. 😁
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As a regular user of my office car preve cfe, the fc kinda on high side. Cvt behaviour is weird, maybe due to clutch based, and most of time annoying especially on bumper to bumper situation.

Weirdly the suprima s cvt is better response/less jerky vs preve. This when i test drove my friend suprima vs my office preve cfe
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 11 2021, 03:20 PM)
Hi guys, my preve suddenly the temperature rise to 6 bar, then aircon feel hot, but it is like awhile only then the temp drop back. I send workshop they say no issue with fan. Radiator water still have, so not sure wat is the problem. I tried flushing of the radiator coolant, now still have the problem but also awhile only. Not until overheat. Could it be the relay problem?
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Fan motor. My office preve last time the fan still moving but not to 100% speed. So at traffic light temperature bar increase.

Check water level all ok
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 12 2021, 07:01 PM)
Ohh okay.. can only change the fan motor? But when check the fan motor is very strong when it run. The fan motor no need to buy with fan assembly right? I saw shopee APM one around 180+
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Yes, change only on motor fan. The workshop will open all fan parts etc and removing the old motor from it. Then replace it with new motor. A 1-2 hours work.
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QUOTE(deepan84 @ Mar 2 2021, 09:10 AM)
also my Preve CFE from 1st batch (year 2012). After the 8th year, lotsa small issues cropping up. and every repair will cost 300-700. I spent around 5k in 1 year to repair all those small2 stuff. this not taking into account the turbo and CVT replacement which should last until 120k KM and anything after that is bonus time.

So finally decided to cut my losses and sell the car. Abit sad that i repaired alot of stuff in COSE but cant afford to continuously repair the car. Its a steady car but once its old, maintenance is pricey.
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My last old car waja Mitsubishi dont cost much on maintaining it until 300k km. Just regular oil change with fully synthetic, gb oil. Additionally the driveshaft need to replace on 10th year and once radiator set due to leakage
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QUOTE(janszmatt @ Apr 5 2021, 12:23 PM)
I plan to sell off my 2014 Preve.
It has served me well, i dont think any car can come close to the price and performance

But as it ages, it has become more manja and needing a lot of tender loving care. something that i cannot afford

My question is, what's the next car i should get that is equal to a preve?
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need to give budget. I suggest a 2nd hand Honda Accord 2.4 2015. The price is a steal considering the new is rm175k. Seriously FC much better than Campro CFE and best no more CVT

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