Hi. I was searching the thread but cannot find the answer.

I was thingking of upgrading from my old Barton 2500 (OC 3200) to AMD2 X2 3800.

I found that not much AM2 X2 information about OC.

My question:

1. What core/stepping to look for in AM2 x2 3800?
2. How high can oc?
3. Default speed 2ghz - is it too low sisnce my barton running 2.2ghz
3. What MB?

Thanks in advance

This post has been edited by hari: Nov 12 2006, 03:19 PM

1. i think there are 2 flavours of AM2, but i dont really think it matters much (ps. everyone is on conroe, so im not sure bout the stepping)
2. it really depends on ur luck/skill and alot of other factors. its tough to tell u off hand
3. its a dual core, and the architecture is different compared tio ur barton. if u like, im sure u can hit 2.2ghz easy with ur AM2
4. er, this one im not sure of, maybe nvidia 590?

hope this helps

You are confused my friend. There is no such thing as AMD2. AMD is always AMD.

I believe you are referring to AMD Socket-AM2 architecture. AM2 is not a brand... it's just a socket layout name. AM2 utilizes 940-pin design, but not to be confused with Socket-940.

You could've find the answer if you do a simple search on the net, not just this forum.

Currently there is no specific good stepping for the Athlon64 series, it all depends on luck and your skills, and also depends on your motherboard as well.

A K8 will run faster than a K7 eventhough it's running at slower speed, this is due to the integrated memory controller system. There is no northbridge memory controller, the memory communicates directly to the processor.

And again... there is no such thing as AMD2.

Edited AMD2 to AM2. I feel stupid!

Can give an example of combination. AM@ x2 3800 and what motherboard.

I dont want to end up buying any MB and then someone told me that I should have bought some other MB.

Thanks

since u already know it was AMD AM2
y dont u try g00gle bout it

just my suggestion larr, rather than waiting for others reply

DFI Infinity UltraII-M2 .... the most overclockable and non-headache AM2 mobo

actually u should write like tis:
AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+ (AM2)
or simply like AMD X2 3800+ (AM2)

AM2 is a socket name not a model
so thr is no AM2 X2..
watever, it's not important as all noe wat u mean.. hehe..

btw, as soulfly said.. DFI is an overclockable mobo

Biostar TForce 550 is not bad too... however often got issues with divider.

I'm from Alor Star. Went to few shop here. Most dont have this processor.

1 shop have but quoted me RM1k + !!

Another shop seems to know about this but offer me the 3600+ but saying this new AMD Athlon 64 X2 3600+ EE 65w @ RM520 with cache 512 x 2. I siad it should come with 256x2. But he said new one!

And suggest the Abit K9 Ultra board

Your coment please. TQ.

d shop seems bad la.. not honest..
nvr heard tat got another newer AMD X2 3600+ wif 512x2 cache wo..
it should hv oni 256x2 cache n d price at LYP is around RM450
bsides, AMD X2 3800+ sell around RM560

don buy at tat shop better..
mayb u can get from LYN.. thr r sum forumers sell it..

This post has been edited by nckent: Nov 13 2006, 12:18 AM

why bother about the 3800 X2 when u can get the 3600 X2 at RM120 cheaper. and both perform the same.

about the overclock, it can achieve 2.4Ghz easily provided u have sufficient knowledge about overclock.

and one more thing, u cant compare a K8 2.0GHz vs K7 2.2GHz, since K8 will easily pawn K7. K7 need to be at least 300Mhz faster to compete with K8 (*done this test at my home using Barton 2600 2.3ghz vs Sempron E6 2500 @2.0GHz)

the result is, encoding and rendering stuffs, K8 wins by leaps and bounds, other area like gaming, super PI it is almost equal. u can refer to the CPU chart at www.tomshardware.com where there is a barton. (i think there remove it liao since it is so old)

My advice is if you are changing to new platform, it is good opportunity to get Conroe. Price-wise, AMD X2 is not cheap and almost same price with C2D. You get better o/c performance with C2D. Everyone is dumping their AMD for INTEL. FYI, E6400 can easily hit 3.2 Ghz. (Stock 2.16Ghz)

Also, NF3 and NF4 chipset had some problem with LAN. It is not stable especially for 24/7 downloading of torrent. NF5 suppose to solve this problem.

This post has been edited by pierreye: Nov 13 2006, 01:57 PM

he is not asking for Intel cpu, please read b4 u reply. who say AMD isnt cheap? the cheapest one cost RM450, while the cheapest Allendale cost RM685. for budget consumers, AMD is the choice. and the e6400 cost almost twice the price of amd 3600 X2. plus, the motherboard for Allendale/conroe doesnt come cheap.
btw, i currently using NF4, and dont find any problem with torrent 24/7. please post facts not myth k.

i dont mean to boast, but my 939 X2 3800 could run at:

1. 2.8ghz stable at 1.8V (? cant recall).
2. 2.4ghz at default voltage

Early batch I suppose, I was one of the earlier adopters.

sorry but your statement is a baseless judgement

anyway... this is an overclocking section. if someone wants to overclock an AMD, only discuss about AMD. if you want to discuss about Intel, go to Intel thread. If you want to recommend someone for Intel above AMD, go to Hardware Questions & Answers section.

hari,

if u want to change to AM2, don't forget to put some budget for DDR2 also..

Thanks for all the advise. Anyway I'll always be with AMD.

Just another question.

My friend want to sell to me AMD Athlon (Winchester) 64 3200+ + MSI K8N Neo4-F Nforce4-F at RM400

1. Is it cheap?
2. Can OC how high? (He is using default speed)
3. How much performance different from Barton 2500 (oc 3200) in using Photoshop and video editting?

Thanks

if RM400 better take sempron AM2.. and cheap mobo..

which is cheaper than DDR. and obviously he has to buy ram. DUH