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Investment O'HAKO @ PUCHONG (Ver 2) [OWNERS' THREAD], Japan Developer Enters Malaysia

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aaron1717
post Dec 12 2015, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(v88 @ Dec 11 2015, 11:14 PM)
Received call from agent to sell me this project, after read this thread..thanks for all the sharing..no need to waste my time to go and see...
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lol... read lowyat thread and made a decision.... this thread really informative huh..... haha.... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Dec 21 2015, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(frenerylee @ Dec 21 2015, 11:52 AM)
i just browse through this property as as agent called me last week. Promoting the available unit. As I check through the internet, no doubt there are two Muslim cemeteries around but it was separated by river. At least not next to the cemetery directly. I am more concern about the Wastewater Treatment Plant nearby. Does it emits smells? There are some comment about the smell from nearby highrise residents, it seems. Haven't do a visit yet. Appreciate reply. Thanks
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the sewerage plant there i heard last time someone said they already move to a new covered plan with landscaping on the rooftop? so i dun think it will be an issue? hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Jan 5 2016, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(Bel2016 @ Jan 5 2016, 09:42 AM)
I have friends stay @ koi kinrara. Go thru the forum more negative comment than positive. Tt y i wish to know is there any buyer, real buyer beside me.

Anyone have idea how to track developer past projects beside their website as all in Japanese.

I go thru Indonesia sub, they oni doing service apartment management, china project unable to track the project mentioned.

Cemetery direction if looking on Google map is not direct facing, is ok for me then.

Traffic may b the main concern. Hopefully would able to cater once all complete.

For indah water my fren from koi saw tt they closing 1 of the pond now. May observe time to time.

Any1 signing snp? Quite worry as other project a lot owner set up community.... bt here....
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u look through the forum... u will see kelvin is one of the buyer.... you can pm him to ask for the community group... apparently they had created the whatsapp group already.....
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post Jan 5 2016, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jan 5 2016, 01:29 PM)
I last time I was at their launch I only saw some old uncles. Kakaka ....
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nowadays the sales taken over by another a property agency already.... u can see more leng luis thr.... last time mostly developers' own sales team.... dry a bit.... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Jan 11 2016, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(Bel2016 @ Jan 10 2016, 08:55 AM)
Huh.... spend me days to read all the threads.

Hmmm....the draff snp n car park thing really turn me down...really loss confidence for a long run.

Really thr is a buyer group.... doubt.

Seriously, i m ok very Cemetery n refurbished iwk.

After 1 weeks observed, Sayonara. Still, good luck everyone
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lol... another turn off because of reading LYN thread... nowadays forum really informative for a life decision making process.... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Jan 14 2016, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(foolmelon @ Jan 14 2016, 09:39 AM)
If super hot attack on Twinz and IOI then I might understand, but somehow all missile only fly to ohako. It's because Marimo is Japanese then much die hard ?

I really don't like to argue here, fact is fact, buyer who google they already know all the cons, no need keep repeating.

I hope this can stop, either buyer nor attacker .

Show end.
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haha yea.... quite double standard one.... ohako got attack like nobody business.... whereas twinz thread calm as peaceful sea... everyone who bought twinz can just go on with a peace of mind that without much heated discussion or negative comments presented to them whereas they share the same location same road same cemetry same sewerage plant..... and its true that one man's food is another man's poison.... to stay in puchong how many options you have unless you are those who investors who is not targeting puchong only then this project is not for you... since so many cheap projects elsewhere... but for puchong fans... this is one of their limited choices i guess.... for freehold condo....
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QUOTE(commander571 @ Jan 14 2016, 09:59 AM)
Aaron Gor, this indicates that O'Hako is a more popular project if compared to the twinz... brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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just kesian the existing buyers need to defend so hard.... since twinz also sold almost up to 80% i guess there should be still certain attraction to stay in this area for own stay purposes... for investors will mostly based on their own observation and due to the factor of scarce of freehold land in puchong... as you can see... even far godsaken place like puchong south... all leasehold... still ppl will invest.... yea... you cant measure the thinkings of the buyers after all.... lolz... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Jan 14 2016, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(gugukrez @ Jan 14 2016, 10:01 AM)
If those SA didn't mention.. 'CEMETERY is no ISSUE'.. then i guess no 1 want to bash Ohako..

Don't blame forum-er bashing ohako.. blame SA so hard sales and with bullshit..
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haha.... i guess depends on luck maybe.... my fren went to see the showroom... i asked him did the SA mention about the cemetry.... he said yea... its even in their sales kit.... he even told me the SA say to pantang anot is up to your choice.... pricing is an issue to consider and the design is also an issue to consider since my fren looking for own stay... lolz... as i heard Ohako let the agency to run the sales now... so this will be a matter of developer SA vs agency SA? tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Jan 14 2016, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(dobson @ Jan 14 2016, 10:15 AM)
Excuse me, it is just a small portion of that silly "Information Kit"

Does not even show exact location, proximity from O'hako, size, angle etc.

Some people actually got misled about this piece of information .They thought is the one nearer to Koi Kinrara and not the 15 acre piece nearer to O'hako

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Shoot me guys! Just put on my bullet proof vest this morning.
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is it....? haha.... i nvr saw that kit.... maybe i share your photo to my fren.... see whats his comments... lol.... but yea.... really depends on own buyer.... you can share the same issues over and over again... i think its fine.... since your post can trigger some other former buyers who cancelled to give their opinion is ok.... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Jan 14 2016, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(commander571 @ Jan 14 2016, 10:13 AM)
Actually cemetery is not a big issue to me, just eyes sore a bit. I am more concerned about the air and sound pollution in this area as it can cause real health issue. Hope the local council can look into this problem seriously.  wub.gif
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haha..... true... there are people who mind and people who dont... maybe we need some koi kinrara residents to share some news on how they survived in this area all these while.... lolz.... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Jan 14 2016, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(dobson @ Jan 14 2016, 10:21 AM)
You never saw the kit? How come you mentioned Sales Kit ? Hehe

As mentioned many million times, as long as there are still potential purchasers walking into the Sales Gallery I will not stop sharing.

Seems that now there are more points for me to share, apart from the cemetery itself smile.gif

Lets wait and see!

Selamat Pagi!!!
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haha... from my initial post.... my fren told me its already in their sales kit... thats why i dunno what sort of cemetry they put in... maybe its like what you said.... tongue.gif tongue.gif maybe you should put all the new issues as your signature apart of the cemetry... lol
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post Jan 14 2016, 12:43 PM

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time for new thread soon v3..... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Jan 15 2016, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(KumKum_Ghost @ Jan 15 2016, 12:11 PM)
Hi people, let me share my opinion based on my experience and knowledge  biggrin.gif

Developers normally obtain Bridging Loan (BL) from Bank for their property development project.

The BL drawdown is based on the certified work done by architect. Hence, in order for the developer to drawdown higher amount of loan during the early stage to fund their construction, it is common for the developers (Highrise Project) to allocate higher portion price for the Car Park. This explains why Ohako restructured the pricing for Car Park and Unit but the total price remains the same. Ohako’s mistake is that it should set it right the first time instead of changing it the 2nd time which causes some buyers’ dissatisfaction or worries.

The SPA dated/stamped on November 2015. According to HDA, developers are not allowed to collect 10% deposit without signing the SPA. However, it is a quite common in the industry that the 10% deposit is collected by lawyers first prior to the signing of SPA. But if you are really so particular about the few weeks gap between the collection of deposit and signing of SPA, go ahead and complain with the authority, you have your right. thumbup.gif

Many people are talking about is Marimo Co Ltd really behind the project. My view is as follows:-
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Maybank is the main financier of Ohako Project. According to banking industry practise, Bank will not grant loan to developers with experience less than 10 years. In this case, I have not heard of Exxx Vxx Sdn Bhd and hence Maybank most likely granted the loan based on the support of Mxxxx Co. Ltd and guarantee of Maxxx Fukaxxx, who is also the director in all Mxxx companies. I take comfort from the fact that Mxxxx Co Ltd with net worth of USD$200m is behind this project, not merely through common directors, but as a parent company with effective shareholding of 48%.

Cemetery:
Simple and straight forward issue. You ok, you buy, you not ok, don’t buy, no need to argue. doh.gif

Low quality of SAs:
I agreed. Most of their SAs don’t know what they talking and look/talk like some desperate SAs who just want commission. I am lucky that my SA is honest and ok. I raised the issue to their management and I am glad that they finally took action to change all their SAs.

Progress of Work:
Yes, If SPA dated November 2015, I think the project progress is a bit slow. As a buyer, I will find out more detailed information from Ohako.

Personal feeling:
John Taro is a developer who is willing to listen to buyers' opinion. Project design is good. SA is crap. Ohako didn't utilise online platform fully to market their project.

Peace  icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 16 2016, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(love5306 @ Jan 15 2016, 10:11 PM)
Dun say SA is crap.. U can find their advertisement in FB and even this tread.. Try look back and u will found it

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haha... i think he is saying the SA crap based on the previous developer's SA as they seldom did advertisement on any online platform and push desperately.... whereas now the agency SA run differently.... smile.gif smile.gif
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post Jan 16 2016, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(love5306 @ Jan 15 2016, 09:37 PM)
I also VISITED the sales gallery, but just cant take it the way they cheat the customer with thier desperate wording in it.. LOL  shakehead.gif
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what kind of desperate wording sin... lai share share..... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Jan 18 2016, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(foolmelon2 @ Jan 18 2016, 11:47 AM)
Then nexona88 browse too much Ohako site, thus pop up so many Ohako ads, am I right ?
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some of it maybe also caused by he likes to many property pages.... those pages whr many agents will spam advertisement into it those kind... hahahah
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post Jan 28 2016, 01:25 PM

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http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=3.067785...Treatment-Plant

best map to reflect everything nearby ohako.....
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QUOTE(tutuyao @ Jan 28 2016, 02:34 PM)
hebat  rclxms.gif  flex.gif  notworthy.gif  thumbup.gif
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haha yea... no need see so many different links or pictures... this map show u the sizes of everything already... lolz
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post Jan 28 2016, 04:59 PM

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but no rumous or anything yet... so we cant sure whether it will be another condo or maybe shoplots.... lolz....
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post Feb 20 2016, 09:20 AM

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i think the few pages before cny already enough for future investors as reference... thats why no need new spamming yet... just look at the map and everything woila~!

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