Hey guys,

Lately I've been having itchy hands on spending on an amp for my MYVI and would need a suggestion from you guys.I have a budget of up to RM800.May i know whether i can get a 4 channel amp for that amount?Also, are Rogers amp any good?

Btw,with this budget,am I able to get Alpine PDX amps?

no

u can only opt for some used a/d/s, precision power, alpine v12 etc which are quite good in quality

For rm800, nothing much can be done, can always ask on the acc shops for that type of budget you have, ask here you will only getting answers to get some 2nd hand amps. If you got few thousand to waste on(not invest, I don't why people will call it invest where the money that throw in cannot generate back money), then this will be the best place for you to ask, then you can see all the reccomendations like PHD, ADS, Helix.....

RM800 ar... better save it...
RM800 can go for 2nd hand amp...
RM800 for new & good 4 channel amp... hmm quite hard le

Ok,maybe you guys can recommend a more decend one.Probably budget of up to RM1500.Maybe will save up more to get it:D

r u gonna use the amp for ur stock speakers??? if yes...then save more money to change the speakers as well...

as for amps... 800 can get u good 2 channel amps... 4 channel abit hard.
OR
u can always scout around for agako or prokick amps...malaysian made but both oso from same company

Add amp liao then wiring le...
Prokick & Agako for SPL might be ok la.. If using for SQ I might say not so match la

check ur pm..AS twister F2 130 & F2 190 iw within ur budget

i'm got brand new rogers 4 channel amp alpha-408 for selling....pm me ur price........thx

still haven get ur desired amp?

sorry for the late reply guys.Haven't been to the forum for quite some time.Well,how bout 2 channel amps,can I get any good ones around RM800?

Also,how Memphis amps fair compared to other brands?In Melaka they are selling the Memphis Studio amps within RM900-RM1300.They are quite old models if I'm not mistaken.

sifus,i would like to know whether buying a signal processor is any good for my MYVI's stock cd player?Will there be any improvement to the sound?

This post has been edited by D_Y2k.4^: Nov 17 2006, 09:28 AM

suggest u change a better hu/...myvi hu suck......

I c,so the best alternative in improving MYVI's sound will be the HU?But that will sacrifice the Dashboard's looks :...(

I think after changing the Daihatsu bracket with a new HU, it looks much better ,

For myvi, I would recommend that the front 4" should be changed to a 6" comp. It makes a lot of differance. If you power the 4" speaker with an amp, the sound is quite sharp, very uncomfortable.

Actually, RM800, very hard to get a good amp for SQ. If you willing to spend more abit for secondhand amps, it would be much better. Besides, good amps will last you for a long time, unless you have ichy hands,hehe ....

i managed to get a steg AQ 120.2 for 900 bucks
look around for 2nd hand wan loh

Wah.Ok then,I think i shall save another 2 months then I'll invest into better stuff:D Btw, are TRU amps any good?

TRU amps? u haf that budget aledi o juz bring it out for talk talk? ha! ha!
juz joking.. once u've got a TRU amp (depending on model) then u can forget about upgrading any amps lia0.. especially those model wif burr-brown chip..

TRU amp.. the cheapest one around RM2k..

Recently just plugged my old amp to the myvi:D
Sound has improved but not satisfying:( Will most likely follow everyone's advice.Maybe eyeing at Eclipse CD5000 then a decent amp

Which TRU amp is recommended?

all of them r recomended.. juz that dono which amp does ur pocket recomends... ha! ha!

juz joking.. even TRU's entry level amp is g00d enuff..

get the C7.4T
coppper

Eclipse CD5000 can be found in Malaysia Market ka?

yes, i asked for price the other day

got cd5k? really? which shop?

kklau got, price you better ask them

Used Soundstream or Alpine...or even Blaupunkt..

g00d recomendation.. but the guy has aledi update his standard to TRU amps..

woah!! PDX Amp you selling? nice?? I am looking for one Amp as well, hehe

I managed to get the price for the CD5000, selling at RM1.8k from ZTH.

Lets say if I were to put RM2k on my budget,which brand will you go for,TRU or Steg?Most likely will install it in January.

bro... put larhh clearly what amp's models r u talking about larhh...
steg and TRU got many models marhh....

i understand.But among these brands and models with that budget,which one will you go for?

both amps are produce warmer sound..

unless u like those oldies/classical songz...

if not, i would recommend if u have a pair of speakers from either alpine or focal to match it.. o maybe speakers which has higher/sharper trebel charateristic (my own opinion)

both also mahal
i asked for the price of a steg qm 220.2 last month price is above 2k
i think the same applies to TRU as well

I see.I'll be pairing the amp with Hertz speakers.Maybe they'll match well?

Ok la,guess will have to wait till time comes.Thanks for the comments to all of you:)

Yes, bro Hertz is good, try the subwoofer as well. Really solid :!!!

or try DLS BOMB!

heard hertz got a 4" suitable for myvi (no need to cut panel) very nice
anyone heard b4?

2k can get tru ?
which 1 ?

havent, yet can enquire sure got source hehe

???

I'm using the 4".Sounds warmer and more detail but mine is being held back by the stock HU.Getting the 6" soon and HU next month probably.

since your have a 4" already
why not try running a 3-way system?

You mean adding a subwoofer?

Wah,if I buy that,I'm going to eat instant noodles for years!

At present I'm eyeing at TRU T4.100v2 .Any good?
Among TRU,Steg and DLS,which one produces warmer and cleaner sound?

This post has been edited by D_Y2k.4^: Nov 30 2006, 12:51 PM

3-way system meaning having 3 speakers in front, you 4" come with a tweeter right?

so up front have your 1" tweeter + 4" as mids + 6" as mid bass
its suppose to sound better compared to a 2-way
since already have experiment loh

never heard DLS b4
have heard TRU and steg both also sound nice, i personally use steg
cool factor, TRU looks cooler

woah DLS damn premium swedish products! you dont know!! provided Clear sound quality!! Truly High End! Cost also high end!

Now i get what you mean.Will 80watt be enough to power them up?At present using the Hertz 4" with old Focal tweeter.

i heard of the brand but never demoed their amps b4
speakers got lar

hmmm.......
are there 3 way passive cross-over?
if not i think you have to get a active cross-over and probably 6 channels to power them
not sure but its gonna be costly consult your installer or other sifu and see

This post has been edited by (N)3: Nov 30 2006, 04:01 PM

wah bro,like that really must prepare to makan instant noodles liao le

Ok guys,probably this will be the last question for car amps,I've narrowed down to 2 models,and they are:

-TRU T4.100v2
-DLS Ultimate A4

Both around RM2.5k.Which one will you guys go for?

for me i will pick the DLS

i'll pick tru

hmmm i was thinking of another way to save your pocket
maybe you can dun the tweeter and 4" thought a passive over and the 6" from the amp
so only need a 4ch amp no need 6ch as earlier mentioned

That maybe an idea but i think sound quality may be sacrificed a little

for future upgrade mah

for me i'll only choose between Steg and TRU
DLS doesn't sound any special to me

steg sounds warm and kinda laid back... very good for listening orchestra
TRU on the other hand is dynamic, fast and clean... no nonsense amp ! and also very underated

I see.I was recommended by many friends to go for DLS.

Thanks for your recommendation bro.Probably will look at Steg range.Which model is good for 4 channel around RM2k+?

TRu's new range is the billet series
there is a B4100 i think
100W x4

This post has been edited by (N)3: Nov 30 2006, 05:33 PM

it's normal lor
u can go out and ask how many ppl know DLS how many ppl know TRU, Steg, Mcintosh, Brax
for sure.. the number of ppl answering DLS is more
they dono how well the latter can perform
thus suggest something that are more popular... or in another word.. well known

another suggestion by me is..
i just saw u said that u're using focal..is it ?
focal + steg will give a good result..
focal + tru will be a bit awful ... too dynamic
i will suggest pairing sinfoni or PHD with focal... they sound natural.. no ajinomoto added! will perform it's best with some silk dome tweeters also (depends)
do let me know if interested with sinfoni... got 2 units to let go at cheap price

I think you're refering to B-4110 which is a 110watts x 4 amp

I see.THanks bro,learned something new today:)
I'm actually using the Focal tweeters only bro,I'm using Hertz Hi-Energy series for front and back:) So like what you've suggeted,i think PHD or Steg may be my answer:D

Probably you can PM me your Sinfoni amps' prices and info yea;)

Go for Alpine if you want volume and velocity

driftmeister sifu
what about eton and tru leh?
i know eton and steg sound very nice and very warm

not sifu le... just some noob trying to be smart

well.. basically using steg
u dun need to be worry too much as it suits almost every kind of speakers with different characteristic.. as it as well known for it's warmness

had try out steg whacking morel, dyna, alpine, scanspeak, vifa and some other which i forgotten
but not eton.. only heard eton powering by genesis ( sounds very refine and laid back)
they all perform quite well..

talking about tru.... i am not too sure... haven try any yet... since genesis and tru are quite similiar to each other in characteristic.. i guess it wont be too much different... mayb the power that we feed them is different causing some different sounding.. as well as acoustic..

only worry if u're getting fast and dynamic amp..(for example audio system) they might not suit all the speakers out there

This post has been edited by driftmeister: Nov 30 2006, 11:26 PM

icic
well nvm then i find some time as the shop to demo for me
planning on getting an eton sub, thinking what amp to pair it with

Anyone here own PHD 4075amp?

i hope threadstarter doesnt mind me hijacking his thread to ask amp related questions ....hehehe...

since we are talking about amps, i have been thinking off 2 scenarios of a 4 channel amp connection to a set of front component speakers....





my questions would be:
1. wat is difference would it make to the speakers performance between these 2 scenarios....
2. also how different is it if we connect a "1 channel left comp speaker and 1 channel right comp speaker (normal setup)" if compared to above scenarios...
3. is there an side effect that would spoilt the speaker, maybe over powered leadi...
4. any other notes/remarks?

the above setup/scenario is just a thought .....so for now, lets leave out the subwoofer connection...

thanks to whoever replies me....

This post has been edited by shocker: Dec 1 2006, 08:21 PM

that amp not bad eh...
affordable with quite impressive sound
characteristic is all rounder
btw.. the sinfoni is price at rm2500 with local warranty

1) Scenario 1 - U need to have passive crossover, Scenario 2 - U need to have active crossover
2) same like scenario 1, just that scenario 1 u r using 2ch bridge, and this case u r using single channel
3) Providing the gain is set at the correct place, possibility is none, even if gain is set too high... the chance of getting distortion will be higher than speaker spoilt
4) do update with ur decision so that we can help u out

Well,now I've come up with a conclusion and that is Steg VS PHD with the budget of up to RM1.8k.Which one should I go for?Might be buying one next weekend already.

As for your Sinfoni,I heard before and its a master piece.But... over budget dude.Coz saving up some money for tweeters

thanks for ur reply.....

quite possibly since we are talking about component sets, they shud atleast come with some passive crossover rite ? so by referring to my questions again, let me rephrase that what is the most outstanding difference that i can feel in sound reproduction if lets say i choose either 1 of the 2 scenarios??

wat im trying to understand from here is that what is the huge difference the 2 scenarios would make in listening to music? is it just plain stupid to think of the 2 scenarios , or is it just waste of amps channels and extra wiring , or is it giving more power to component speakers where actually those comp speakers doesnt need the extra power (since we power speakers using amps) or will those comps and tweeters sound better if connected with extra 1 channels each [meaning scenario 1 and 2] (as supposed to normal setup which is one each) or is there an extra thing ?

well, this is just an idea or thought as i said earlier , im just thinking if lets say by some chance i got a 4 channel amp and decide to put 2 channels for front comps and dont decide to put up a subwoofer just yet, may be i can utilise the extra 2 unused channels for better purpose (like connecting to front comps) while waiting for subwoofer budget to come in hand since normally ppl would use 2 channels bridge to 1 for connection to subwoofer.....

sorry for my long explanation ...thanks driftmeister......

From the last statment you said "a 4 channel amp and decide to put 2 channels for front comps and dont decide to put up a subwoofer just yet, may be i can utilise the extra 2 unused channels for better purpose (like connecting to front comps) while waiting for subwoofer budget to come in hand since normally ppl would use 2 channels bridge to 1 for connection to subwoofer..... "

YOU CAN DO IT... it is active setup for component same as the scenario 2 without using crossover. If your amp have crossover more better...

if using passive crossover
the frequency is set and kenot be change

so by using active crossover
we can fully utilize and fully release the potential of a speaker
by tuning to the most optimum cut off freq using the active crossover
also give more flexibility about wat kinda sound we desire

about the difference part is
how much difference u can notice?
it's depends on the sensitivity of ur ears
some ppl may have more difference bcos of the speaker they use
cable, amp also a part of the factor

i did asked a fren of mine about this setups, just a simple explanation that he gave is that since we are giving extra power to the speakers (considering the fact that amps are used to power speakers), there is possibility that those comp speaker might get spoilt/damaged/koyak or have sound distortion over a prolong use...

according to him, it depends whether those comps speakers can support the extra power and if they do, then its a good news ....but thats not all also, tuning plays a important role too...

well, thanks for answering to my questions before ....all i just wanted to know if giving extra channels and power to comps speakers might give out extra performance in those speakers....

sometimes power isn't everything ler
used to feed 150w to my tweeter
then i change to 2 x 2channel amp
with just 50w to the tweeter
and it sounds better

and for over powering part
a good speaker wont be spoilt ler

hehehehe....you have a point there too...thanks for the explanation and advice ....just asking OK, for RM1K wat is the good amp i can get within this price range ....preferably a 4 channel amp, 2 channel also can for listening to SQL direction...

i heard agako 2 and 4 channel amp in penang can get around the same price only.....which is about RM800 ....might as well go for 4 channel ones ....but im not sure it suits the kind of music i listen to as some ppl says that different amp supports certain type of music better....like example amp X supports music X or Y better but not music A or B.....

This post has been edited by shocker: Dec 3 2006, 10:25 PM

penang u need to ask loon1331
i am not penang lang

yeah, sort of waiting for him to reply ....but i dont mind listening to u (or reading ur posts) if u got recommendations on amps as well in that budget range ....thanks....

Guys, even tho you have a perfect speaker components, you still have to have one High End head unit which can play beautiful crystal clear quality sound. This is just my opinion, like i would suggest go for Alpine HU. It really rocks!!:)

This post has been edited by morgan: Dec 4 2006, 01:13 AM

u have point there which i would agree...

better HUs which has better EQ and functions tends to produce higher quality sound as compared to lower level HUs, but money also spendly nice maa....hahahaha.....

heard like eclipse and alpine is quite good HUs.....

So far I think HU plays the most important part when it comes to sound quality then next comes to Amplifier then speakers.Correct me if I'm wrong ya

Yes bro, HU for Alpine and Eclipse are highly recommended

i beg to differ
i would rate them all as important

dun only think of alpine, eclipse for HU
there's Clarion, Pioneer, Denon which produce good HU as well

alpine HUs look horrible
from a purely looks POV I prefer eclipse and pioneer
nakamichi looks like classic players, also nice

No way, alpine looks incredibly cool and more into high end car like BMW and MERZ for Local Assembly or CBU.

I must agree with the Nakamichi's design and SQ as well cheers

I think Alpine new models look great!As Eclipse,I love CD7000;P Not to forget,their sound is supperb!!!

Btw guys,back to topic,recently someone is offering TRU T4.100v2 for below RM2k which is 5 months old.May i know whether this model is Burrbrown tuned?Should I go for it?

they dun come with burr-brown originally
they were burr-browned aftermarket
afterall... burr-browned doesn't really give much sound difference (at least to me)

but anyhow.. under 2k is a good price