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post Jul 19 2015, 11:07 PM

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Looping in renovation means they are using the nearest plug point and pull the wire from there. Usually won't really post much hazard unless the plug point you will use for heating or cooling appliance.
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post Jul 20 2015, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(cwtien @ Jul 20 2015, 11:03 AM)
It's fairly simple to test.  Connect some power-insensitive device to each of the power point (i.e. those devices that won't give trouble if directly turned off - for instance, small fan or power adapter).  Turn on all these devices.

Then, in the DB board, take out the circuit breaker for each of the newly installed points.  If only one device switches off, then you have a direct connection.  If multiple devices switches off, then you have a loop circuit.
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Doing the earth leakage will be more effective, since this is the most important check to be done before shifting in icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(lazzy_dogg @ Jul 20 2015, 12:11 PM)
some contractor companies will charge you the same for direct and looping..... just that they will determine which gets direct and which gets looped....
for my case, i pull one 4mm direct, then use eubiq track....
my idea for looping, never have it side by side..... if i want side by side, just use track or extension cords.... biggrin.gif
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Not some, most of them are doing this shit shakehead.gif
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post Jul 21 2015, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(honkkydorry @ Jul 20 2015, 11:56 PM)
How about fridge? Not sharing it with other appliances of course but the powerpoint is loop from the nearest power point. Is that ok or must it have its own direct point from the main distribution box?
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Basically for kitchen appliances, all shall be direct, not looping.
Fridge sure will be having 1 dedicated plug point, original can do.
Rice cooker, microwave oven can share 1 plug point but cannot operate 2 together, is not the plug point can't take it, is your extension plug can't.
Oven sure have to use its own.
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post Jul 21 2015, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(honkkydorry @ Jul 21 2015, 03:20 PM)
Thanks peri-peri and Supersound.
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To make your wiring work simple, lights, fans, TV wiring using looping won't post much issue. The only issue i can see here is, when that particular fuse blows, you may end up whole house no light doh.gif
That's why 3 phase wiring sometimes are good. My house is 3 phase wiring, I can have my ground floor tripped during thunderstorm but upstair still got power icon_rolleyes.gif
So for lights, you can separate it by zone, like living hall 1 fuse, kitchen and dining hall 1 fuse.
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post Jul 21 2015, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(honkkydorry @ Jul 21 2015, 07:57 PM)
Im having headache with the kitchen in my new apt. There is simply not enough plug points and the few that are in there are not strategically placed. To put in new dedicated plug points means I have to hack across the ceiling to DB right? The box is about 12ft away. Need to check whether current DB can add more fuse.
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If those plug points that you are not using, may consider shifting them first nod.gif

 

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