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yok70
post Feb 8 2016, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Feb 8 2016, 09:34 PM)
finally, market comes to its senses, crude tanking.
I think I m winning very soon. been holding from 329, 309, 229 (!). my bonuses were in too. most likely need to liquidate few to free my cash. I think I can escape tonight  hmm.gif
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congrats! wish you no need to loss any iphone, not like me. laugh.gif

looking bearish in short term....possibly revisit recent low at 25-26 once again..... hmm.gif
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post Feb 8 2016, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 8 2016, 11:09 PM)
it is!

on jan 21, wti price was about same today, dwti was 42x.

have to say i don't quite understand how it works... hmm.gif
anyway will stop uwti/dwti for a while - too volatile.

small bits of xle-oih-slb, again. tongue.gif

this shale co. is getting smacked today:
Chesapeake plunges 40%; has hired restructuring attorneys: Reuters, citing sources
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yes, i had various experience on these leveraged etf, cannot be accurate even if more than few days. Probably only accurate for most 2 days. So, holding has very high risk. Lesson learnt the hard way. cool2.gif
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post Feb 8 2016, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Feb 8 2016, 11:38 PM)
Waah. Oil bulls are fighting hard to keep above $30.
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while everyone else sinking, apple bull also fighting hard to stay above 94 support laugh.gif

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post Feb 9 2016, 12:51 AM

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10yr bond yield sinks 5%....wow.... cool2.gif
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post Feb 9 2016, 02:29 AM

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regarding leveraged etf. The below example shows that it won't be sync after few days.

say a 3x oil etf priced $100 on day 0, when oil = $10.
day 1, oil up 5%, oil=$10.50. This 3x etf up 15% to 115.
day 2, oil down 5% to $10.50*.95=$9.975, this 3x etf down 15%, which is 115*0.85 = 97.75
day 3, oil down 8% to 9.975*0.92=9.177, the etf now 97.75*0.76 = 74.29
day 4, oil up 9%, 9.177*1.09=10. Yes, oil back to original 10. However, the etf now up 27% that goes 74.29*1.27 = 94.35. Yes, the 3x etf still loss around 6% from its original.
imagine a few more rounds of movements, the etf may loss much more even though the oil recovers to its original price.

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post Feb 11 2016, 08:36 PM

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26 coming, time to take profit. recovered most of the 3.5 iphones i loss recently. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 11 2016, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Feb 11 2016, 08:58 PM)

The problem is.. will the bulls step back in or
will they stand aside and let it slide to $20 ?
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another million dollar question. laugh.gif
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post Feb 12 2016, 12:33 AM

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420 all out. earned back 3 iphones from 3.5 iphones loss. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 12 2016, 12:38 AM

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10-yr bond's yield sinks more than 7% to 1.57%! wow....fear is here. hmm.gif
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post Feb 12 2016, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 12 2016, 12:38 AM)
got some oih at 21.45.

will see there is any profit later. laugh.gif

if not, keep in pocket.
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Is majority oil services companies do drilling as one of their largest business division?
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post Feb 12 2016, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 12 2016, 12:58 AM)
no.

oilfield services incl slb (which just acquired cameron), baker hughes, halliburton which do equipment supplies, logging, cementing, testing.

drilling is done by another category - drilling contractors like transocean, seadrill, ensco, oceanics - these are in deep red as rig count drops, day rates plunge.
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i see. Thanks!

btw, VIX quietly approaching 30....fear is here. cool2.gif
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post Feb 12 2016, 04:57 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Feb 12 2016, 04:32 AM)
DWTI just lost 30pts from 426 when the bargain buyers came in and buy.
You can see that volume spike up too in XLE and SPY. Dow also recovered 100pts.
Sp500 fought very hard at 1810. 30 mins to go. It will be interested to see how it closes. Maybe tomorrow reversal.
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break down 1800 will be drama for next week if it happened tomorrow. laugh.gif
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post Feb 12 2016, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 12 2016, 10:07 AM)
interesting to note crude touched a low of 26.05 last night.

now 27.60.

will see how it goes tonight!
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bull wants fight back. 25-26 still strong support. laugh.gif
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post Feb 12 2016, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Feb 12 2016, 10:21 PM)
10 minutes before the bell. crude spikes to 28 after rumours of production cut from opec minister.
wow, just a rumour can cause this huge jump!
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post Feb 12 2016, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 12 2016, 11:27 PM)
broader market is bullish today, pushing crude up too.

but i doubt it can touch 28.50 - this one is stiff resistance.
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already above 28.50. laugh.gif
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post Feb 12 2016, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 12 2016, 11:43 PM)
the only bear i see on my list is AAPL...
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i need a stronger bear for this one, since i always on buy mode. laugh.gif
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post Feb 12 2016, 11:51 PM

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oil (march contract) up 9%, but uwti only up 9%....tricky. hmm.gif
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post Feb 12 2016, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 12 2016, 11:54 PM)
not buying any oil/energy?

think it has safely crossed 28.50.

should be on its way to 29.50. tongue.gif

my ikan bilis... will keep, no quick trade this time.
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not decided....finger itchy but watching bigger sell queue than buy queue on uwti..... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 12 2016, 11:58 PM)
i am staying away from uwti/dwti for a while.

collecting the trio of xle-oih-slb.
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these are much safer, less nightmare sure. laugh.gif
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post Feb 13 2016, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 13 2016, 12:03 AM)
not only that...

i feel very unhealthy sleeping at 4am.

need to get back to old routine 2.30am. biggrin.gif
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