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yok70
post Feb 2 2016, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 1 2016, 11:52 PM)

now very tempted to go dwti! laugh.gif
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me too.
but scare a bit....the nightmare of losing 3.5 iphones on this one still haunting me.... laugh.gif
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post Feb 2 2016, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 2 2016, 12:22 AM)
i keep telling myself never hold overnight, yet i do sometimes - that's the danger... sweat.gif

entered earlier at 275, will get out later.

crude is weak today, no chance for rebound. tongue.gif
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but not holding overnight is also very difficult to play, because it opens with big gap. Unless we play options to increase the multiplier even more, otherwise hard to earn money, paying too much on fees. unsure.gif

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post Feb 2 2016, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 2 2016, 12:34 AM)
it can gap up or gap down...

these 3x things, should do day trades like recommended.

brokerage fees - that's a diff issue but is a real cost.

can only the next best thing - buy at qty that is min brokerage so as not to lose even more.
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ya, it's what i did: buying large enough quantity to minimize the percentage of cost. That's why i loss huge when overnight and seeing large gap on unfavorable direction. laugh.gif
agree, should stay day trade for 3x, it's too high risk to overnight. nod.gif
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post Feb 2 2016, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 2 2016, 01:11 AM)
i just got out at 287.

never mind it goes to 300 later.

can sleep good and early tonight. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 3 2016, 04:10 AM

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QUOTE(win44 @ Feb 2 2016, 04:06 PM)
http://www.zacks.com/stock/news/99558/4-wa...t-oil-with-etfs

PowerShares DB Crude Oil Short ETN (SZO)
This is arguably the least risky of the bunch, offering investors -1x short exposure to WTI crude. The ETN is rebalanced on a monthly basis though, so decay rebalancing issues are minimized, while it also adds in the yield from short-term T-bills as well (read Three ETFs for the Unconventional Oil Revolution).
The product charges investors 75 basis points a year for exposure, making it a relatively cheap choice in the inverse ETF market. SZO doesn’t have that much volume though, so bid ask spreads might be a little wide in this fund.
- See more at: http://www.zacks.com/stock/news/99558/4-wa...h.g7Fijq2g.dpuf
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Thanks! thumbup.gif
Low volume is a risk to be considered for this one then. laugh.gif
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post Feb 3 2016, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 3 2016, 07:56 PM)
at current levels, crude is hypersensitive.

wti 30.4x.

dwti 318.

becos...
think a jittery session ahead...
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ya, very sensitive and fragile. can move either direction within minutes. cool2.gif
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post Feb 4 2016, 12:37 AM

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oil back to rally mode....
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post Feb 4 2016, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 4 2016, 12:42 AM)
caused by "weak $"... don't really know what that means... biggrin.gif
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weak dollar is good for me, i sold some local stocks few days back and waiting for opportunity to pump in the RM into USD.
spent 1st round yesterday buying apple at 94+. laugh.gif
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post Feb 4 2016, 02:10 AM

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QUOTE(win44 @ Feb 4 2016, 02:05 AM)
Held some DWTI from yesterday, feeling some hurt today.
But made some damage control, bought in some dwti @ 272 and sold @ 285.
Still holding some pricey dwti, haha.. hopefully the next few days will see oil back down again.
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how many iphones paper loss? biggrin.gif
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post Feb 4 2016, 02:39 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 4 2016, 02:23 AM)
the way it was said...

despite the buildup in oil inventories, the soft mfg data had the market seeing a reduced chance of a fed rate hike in 2016 as reflected in fed funds rate.

the usd dropped 1.8% against eruo at one stage, so crude price went up.

looking at the usd/euro chart and crude price, yes, strong correlation in the last few hours.

question is how much more effect will there be in the next few days...?
anyway, i'm prepared to cut loss in the next hour.

looking at loss of 10% or so...
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looking at short term oil chart (2 months), i think i see bullish sign.... hmm.gif
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post Feb 4 2016, 03:24 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 4 2016, 03:11 AM)
u may get rate of 4.10 tmrw.

usd lost 2% to euro at this moment.
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yesterday's apple bought at 4.22, hopefully rate can go 4.00 by tomorrow. tongue.gif
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wow....oil approaching 33-34 once again.....
if breakout 33.60, may test 35 very soon.....

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QUOTE(win44 @ Feb 4 2016, 10:00 AM)
haha, approx 1 iphone. But its worth the lesson learnt.
But hope to recover in the next few days!
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can loss fast, meaning can also win fast. Good luck! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 4 2016, 04:22 PM)

how can crude price recover?! tongue.gif
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long term i am bearish on oil.
but short term technical rebound is possible....the catalyst (be it negative or positive) is on Russia and OPEC's hand now. laugh.gif
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post Feb 5 2016, 02:50 AM

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oil looking bearish now, since it cannot continue the rally....hmm, possibly go all the way to low 20s.....only time will tell. hmm.gif
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post Feb 5 2016, 02:57 AM

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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Feb 4 2016, 10:29 PM)
crude shooting up, fast n furious! unbelievable !!!
i am dead. still holding at relatively high cost. may need to average down. damn crude!
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ya, crude is damn dangerous to trade recently. It moves so fast.
i think it's a bad idea to have the thinking of "average down" or even "average up". I think the fundamental thinking should be, right now, at this moment, will I buy (or sell)? Not putting what stocks we already holding at the moment for consideration.
try to stay calm. laugh.gif
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post Feb 5 2016, 03:00 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 5 2016, 12:45 AM)

but CIMB trading limits based on deposit or paid up stocks more generous than HLEB.
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i never know how cimb based on to determine the trading limit, i just always found my trading limit is so damn high!
remember i lost 3.5 iphones trading dwti last week? that was exactly the outcome of this very high trading limit! I don't have that cash to pick up the shares, therefore i must sell them on T+3 no matter what price they were at. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 5 2016, 03:07 AM)
paid up: 1x
cash, sales proceeds: 2.7x
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cash and sales proceeds is fine, but the evil is at paid up! they expect us to sell our shares to fill up the big hole!! shocking.gif
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post Feb 5 2016, 03:14 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 5 2016, 03:02 AM)
very hard to play.

i got in/out fast uwti in 202, out 210.

now it's 197. rolleyes.gif

think better stay away from these explosive stuff for a while... go back to normal ones... tongue.gif
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i did it, i stopped playing oil after losing that 3.5 iphones.
i went back to fundamental long term play and bought apple instead. laugh.gif
eyeing brk-b as well, but i want much lower price....looking at 111. laugh.gif
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ok, looks like 25 coming.... tongue.gif

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