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yok70
post Jan 19 2016, 10:44 PM

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400 coming, but my target is 500 (25-26). hmm.gif
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post Jan 20 2016, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jan 20 2016, 01:21 AM)
Brent now much cheaper than WTI.  laugh.gif
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should have short brent instead. laugh.gif
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post Jan 20 2016, 02:12 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 20 2016, 01:57 AM)
looks like another 3am job. laugh.gif
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no panic tonight it seems.
maybe tomorrow more panic. laugh.gif
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post Jan 20 2016, 03:03 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 20 2016, 02:48 AM)
the first time i touched it was on 18 june last year 62.40.

i has come a long, long way. laugh.gif
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if you hold it since then, will you earn much more than everyday trading it? laugh.gif
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post Jan 20 2016, 03:04 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jan 20 2016, 02:41 AM)
DWTI is amazing.. new highs everyday, printing money for players.

I won't be surprised...$400, $450, $500 when we get to low $20 in Oil.  biggrin.gif
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i want to target sell at 500....still hesitate to trade or to hold. hmm.gif
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post Jan 20 2016, 03:22 AM

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408 matched, all sold.
almost covered back my loss of an iphone few days ago. laugh.gif

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post Jan 20 2016, 04:39 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jan 20 2016, 04:04 AM)
SP500 re-testing lows again at 1865.

Next drop could be 1820'ish (2014 Oct lows).  sweat.gif
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crude at 28.30 now......26 on the way. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 20 2016, 09:28 PM

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guess it will open above 430....hard to squeeze profit if oil didn't rebound reasonably....
buffett is right, frequent traders always loss the gap and decrease profit essentially.
however, it's lower risk to trade frequently, in case we can't see the fundamental accurately.

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post Jan 20 2016, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 20 2016, 10:10 PM)
the only way is FIFO - fats in fast out. laugh.gif
futures trim losses, crude >29 (march) - chance coming! tongue.gif
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post Jan 21 2016, 01:17 AM

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once again, buffett was right.
i should have just hold the dwti for few days.
now....can only watch it moving higher loh... ohmy.gif
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post Jan 21 2016, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 21 2016, 01:21 AM)
if u think it'll go to 25, can enter now too. laugh.gif
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true also...but risk is much higher now as it approaching 26....
i am watching uwti now....but still hesitate....risk is high also....

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post Jan 21 2016, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jan 21 2016, 01:22 AM)
I think Buffet also afraid to hold any leverage instruments..
It is ok to be on the safe side than sorry later.
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ya, always consider the risk there....

a different story, buffett been adding shares of phillips66 in a big way....
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post Jan 21 2016, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 21 2016, 01:30 AM)
my tiny buy at 423, sold at 472.

ikan bilis became a sizeable grouper.

now 482. biggrin.gif
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i loss the chance. i was queuing at 410, didn't get anything. laugh.gif
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post Jan 21 2016, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 21 2016, 01:49 AM)
having fun...re-entered tiny bit at 476.

see if it can get to 486 later. tongue.gif
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wow!.....good luck!..... sweat.gif
i still watching only, dunno what to do, better dun do.... laugh.gif
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post Jan 21 2016, 03:03 AM

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looks like 26 could be achieve tonight....now already 26.19....
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post Jan 21 2016, 03:44 AM

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Crude Oil Feb 16 now still as low as 26.34. hmm.gif


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post Jan 21 2016, 04:55 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jan 21 2016, 04:37 AM)
I think need to look at the March contract.

DWTI just lost 50 pts from the highs.
XLE just gained another 1.5 pts.

Both Dow and Sp500 have almost recovered
from the low. Buyers are stepping in here after that
Oct 2014 low SP500 1820 been tagged.
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ya, 1820 is a strong support. flex.gif

however, it shouldn't affect oil price. Oil should be a different creature?.... hmm.gif
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post Jan 21 2016, 07:00 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jan 21 2016, 05:58 AM)
Today, Oil is a bit scary till the last hour (looks like a small capitulation for the day)... both WTI and Brent move in lock step.
I'm seeing WTI didn't go below 28 (during NYSE market time) but Brent did. Is that what you're showing too?

I think Oil is close to the $25'ish here where most bullish buyers will likely step in to push this back up. Could all happen in a single day.
Perhaps one more two more days of dropping below $25 to flush out more longs first.

But, let see if there is any geo-politic rumors that may come out first. If there is, Oil could spike up like a rocket ship given so many shorts.
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Actually i was watching yahoo finance's "Crude Oil" in its front page, which will auto-pick a "reasonable contract date". For today, it picked the "Crude Oil Feb 16 (CLG16.NYM) -NY Mercantileā€œ
Most of the time, this oil price matches those DWTI, UWTI and USO pretty well. However, occasionally they don't match, for instance today.

Ya, I also think it may visit around 25 before some bottom fishing traders creating some rebound.
Our previous target 25-26 is very close now. If sentiment continues to turn bad, probably we'll see low 20s, ie. 23-24 before rebound. However, where can the good news come from? So far, I can't imagine that. Saudi just recently express their "i don't care" behavior. And Iran, same, another "I don't care" attitude. Oil companies are sinking deeper and deeper to force cut capex. It seems to me that OPEC will not act too fast, it needs the industry to flush out more competitors, that may take another year or so.


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post Jan 21 2016, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 21 2016, 10:08 AM)
there are jan, feb, mar wti futures prices.

jan one will disappear once expired.

i look at mar ones.
dwti went from 483 to close at 438.

if i had not closed my last bit at 465, i will be nervous now. biggrin.gif

these leveraged crude etf's are not regular stocks, best not to hold longer than necessary.
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guess i better monitor from here instead, they give me march. And they have brent too. biggrin.gif
http://www.investing.com/commodities/crude-oil


true, i should be more careful when holding leveraged ETF, better be max just few days.
btw, i am still holding my dwti that bought yesterday at 448. Now sweat a little... sweat.gif
so far oil futures are in red, hopefully tonight also give red... sweat.gif
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post Jan 21 2016, 04:01 PM

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i have a feeling oil may go to low 20s (ie. 22-23)....the traders are aggressive now, their greediness may push price lower.... hmm.gif

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