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MOE: Portuguese invading Melaka were Crusaders
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ichi_24
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Jul 9 2015, 02:23 PM
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Since when portugal were crusaders? Bangang abadi punya menteri
They were the least of the Catholic inquisitor unlike their zealous brother, spain but never done any "crusades", spreading religion by missionary and colonization are most common approach for those European
And crusade was like 500 years earlier, topkek
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ichi_24
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Jul 9 2015, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(xen0 @ Jul 9 2015, 02:24 PM) rugi woo halau portugis.. kalo tak da bole masuk piala dunia.. ada cr7 malaya NO, i rather have british overlord than portugal one
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ichi_24
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Jul 9 2015, 02:31 PM
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Ignore unker, he gone kuku edi
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ichi_24
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Jul 9 2015, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(yugimudo @ Jul 9 2015, 02:30 PM) woa woa woa, I thought the melei fight with spear and keris only? Instinggar, pemuras, lela Heck our lela aka culverin aka cannon were famous among siamese and sumatran kingdoms
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ichi_24
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Jul 9 2015, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(yugimudo @ Jul 9 2015, 02:43 PM) I only watch cerita pendekar and P ramlee. Never know malacca actually has some cannon. But in our book, they say portugese win becoz malacca has no modern warfare? WHICH BOOK? Our school text book is umno propaganda, trash by my standard Start slowly from hangPC2 sources, which coincide the book i want to explain it to you
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ichi_24
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Jul 9 2015, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 9 2015, 02:49 PM) lol How about those who scored A1 or A2. somebody in this thread was so prooooooud. I score a1 too, but i had to score since i need the A, even how crappy it is
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ichi_24
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Jul 9 2015, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE(mirage2000 @ Jul 9 2015, 02:52 PM) Pengkianat puak Dap la siape lagi, pernah baca Memang naikbasikalputstickinwheellogic.jpg lel  If you read sulalatus salatin you be surprised who's the onr who pull the string
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ichi_24
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Jul 9 2015, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(hammer2014 @ Jul 9 2015, 03:17 PM) Not really. The statement is not entirely untrue. Just not accurate. The Gomen is trying to frame the colonialism of Malacca by western powers as a religious act first for their political reasons. The truth is, the Europens want money first and convert the infidels second. It is all about the money. This Portugal need something to legalize their action and the pope just agrees to that
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ichi_24
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Jul 9 2015, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(TheReaderReads @ Jul 9 2015, 04:04 PM) fellow historians, Since now we are touching japanese adi. 1) Why is there animosity between china and japan until to-date? 2) Who cause more trouble to each other? Seem like these has been on-going for centuries! Jap still worship ancestor who do war crime And rape of nanking never exist
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ichi_24
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Jul 9 2015, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Jul 9 2015, 04:32 PM) I think they've already tamed by the time the church was banned in France during the French revolution. Even when Napoleon invited back the church, they don't have the same status they were once during the French Monarchy. Once Enlightenment is in full force then the church practically lost whatever temporal power they have earlier. Separate church from states, they learn from America
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