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 NVIDIA GeForce Community V15 (new era pascal), ALL HAIL NEW PASCAL KING GTX1080 out now

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post Aug 11 2015, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Aug 10 2015, 11:03 PM)
The day is tomorrow biggrin.gif Anyway, computers are an expensive hobby.
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No not really. Only when you demand certain things that isn't necessary (4K, 144Hz or fps in all games, 3D, multi monitor etc) then it become expensive.

Computer became quite stagnant these past few years. Midrange cards around RM700-900 can run games at 1920x1080 fluently while most budget cards around RM500 could reach that resolution with few setting turned down. Going 2nd hand with that budget could reach as high as 2560x1440 as 290/X cards which sold anywhere from RM750-1100 could handle that resolution.
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post Aug 12 2015, 06:19 AM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Aug 12 2015, 02:53 AM)
A decent setup that allows you to enjoy proper gaming would cost you +/- 3K range. You can easily calculate (i5, 8GB RAM, board, mid end graphics card) and this does not include other components like SSD, LCD, keyboard.
My believe is that everyone deserves to enjoy life and this means enjoying their PC experiences as well. If someone doesn't bother much about technology, has little demands of what PC gaming means, turn down settings to medium or low just to play the game (even at 1080p - seriously in 2015?), use a HDD and make coffee while waiting for games to load, use a RM20 mouse/keyboard then yes, buy everything used and settle with 1080p like what you said. Buying used might be an option but old hardware could potentially cause problems more than fun and for someone that doesn't know how to deal with it, that's extra head ache.

I wouldn't even want to get close telling people to game at 1080p with "few setting turned down" because I myself could not accept it. To me, that's not PC gaming and might as well go buy a console. I'm not even talking about a high end build, a decent graphics card alone is RM700-900 like you mention and that itself is not expensive? rolleyes.gif Ok, I think that's subjective laugh.gif
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You implying 'I' and 'myself' in your description, like you say it's subjective. There is no right or wrong, the reason I mentioned the price is that is what most people do when recommending graphics card in this forum, saying something like 'top up a bit and get this'. Everyone have different requirement, different games they play, some enjoyed DOTA, FIFA which isn't that demanding, some enjoyed FPS, some enjoyed MMORPG. Some could play at 20-30fps, some can't. For the likes of you maybe RM3K is cheap, some even want to buy a whole rig with RM1k budget. I even sees someone play games reaching single digit in FPS games but still enjoying it because that's the rig they could afford.
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post Aug 12 2015, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Aug 12 2015, 11:08 AM)
Trust me, you start a poll or do a survey outside Low Yat plaza. I'm pretty sure not many would want to play at 20-30 FPS (Seriously, 20 FPS?! shocking.gif)

You certainly know very interesting people which can game with 9FPS or lower so I need to salute you for that.
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Yep, I see my cousin play Red Alert 2 at merely 2-5fps with Pentium 233MHz MMX, but you'd be surprised how massive his base is. I don't know how he got the patience playing it. Even I once play at that speed as well but I can't handle it (played on Pentium 166MHz). From loading screen to build first power plant takes 15 minutes. No joke.

QUOTE(clawhammer @ Aug 12 2015, 11:08 AM)
I mention PC is an expensive hobby so I'm not sure when did I state that RM3K is cheap. There's no more RM1K budget rig around seriously. Get an i3, RAM, board and that is already close to RM1K. You mean the GPU, PSU, casing, HDD, keyboard, mouse, LCD can be bought for another RM200?
I merely judging from your rig, and the stuff you sold, I actually wanted to buy your CM PSU but maybe next month tongue.gif

Nope, been asked for that kind of budget for laptop for gaming, PC for gaming etc but I can't recommend them any since there isn't one fit for gaming sweat.gif At a minimum it's always at least RM1.5k, squeezing an APU could get at that budget, with cheap LCD and generic case/PSU/keyboard + mice combo.

When I see people asking for something like 'lower than RM500' then I saw someone posted 'top up RM100 or RM200 get these' I'm not really agreed with that unless the OP stated he can go that far, because some people even RM50 means a lot to them.
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post Oct 19 2015, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Oct 18 2015, 01:55 PM)
I completely understand. Which is why GFE should be entirely optional and those who has a use for it, then that'd be great.

But why must it be forced upon everyone? I mean, like I said, I don't use shadowplay, I don't care about pre-set settings because I like to do my own stuff and you know, Nvidia's game ready drivers this year has been pretty shitty to say the least of which I'd like to cherry pick the best set and go from there.
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Agreed. I dont like things to set it up for me. Every enthusiasts knows this, for newbies it might be alright but forcing everyone to do it? Bad move nvidia.

I find it funny that someone just simply said 'everyone got an email' regarding the email subscription. Its simply missing the point laugh.gif

Anyhow whatever stupid things nvidia do, someone will put the downloaded driver from GFE and uploaded it online, with modded INF to support every card to date so its a non issue.
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post Apr 6 2016, 06:54 AM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Apr 6 2016, 03:25 AM)
No Pascal until Q1 2017 right? Kinda nice for me hehe
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That q1 2017 is for Tesla variant. God knows how till consumer version released.
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post May 11 2016, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(targon @ May 10 2016, 10:15 PM)
Now...Now...now.....

let's get over this hype over the 1080/1070.

don't you think Nvidia is getting adventurous in charging a premium on those so called "Founders" edition a.k.a reference cards ?

Mr H.J.H would have figure it out:
Give it a special/funky name and voila, we can charge more........and those early adopter suckers would fall for it....

after all, this is a business game.
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nGreedia, the way it meant to be charged. Those are the mentality of their customer.
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post May 11 2016, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(antaras @ May 11 2016, 10:46 AM)
So whats with this video? Still greedy for selling reference cards more expensive than 3rd party cooling. Their AIB also selling this FE for the same price shakehead.gif
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post May 11 2016, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(g104 @ May 11 2016, 04:10 PM)
due to micron GDDR5X stock is limited.
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What's the relation of putting bone stock reference cooler that costs more than 3rd party cooler which have the same memory?
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post May 11 2016, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(antaras @ May 11 2016, 04:13 PM)
Go to 2:50
*one of the reason why, according to them

Or, if you are more interested in a rather "neutral" point of view...

Go to 2:19
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That's their point of view, irrelevant.
QUOTE(g104 @ May 11 2016, 04:15 PM)
that's y i already said don't trust gamers nexus, jayztwocents & other stupid reviewers that invited by NV.

extra $70~100 not only cooler. non founders edition or AIB might get gimped chip.
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Agreed on those who invited are not to be trusted.

If what you say are true, then its now instead of nGreedia it's become nGimpdia.

I'm going to stop here because it seems pointless because a lot of speculation. The actual performance of these card is still largely unknown since it's still under NDA
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post May 23 2016, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(Calvin871989 @ May 23 2016, 03:27 PM)
Even with 1080 TI , will it able to do 4k @ 60fps ?

I wonder if there's going to be a TITAN for the 10 series.

Not sure how long I'm able to play the waiting game but one day I'll have to surrender because technology is always evolving.

Haizzz....
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It all depends on what your aim. If you wait for 4K 60fps on single card it's going to be a while. If you like me which 1080p 60fps is enough even card from 2013 is able to satisfy you.

Titan cards will always be on later date, nvidia is milking them in server currently so it's going to be awhile before it comes to mainstream. But the price is going to be astronomical. Never in Bolehland history an nvidia xx80 (non Ti) series leaping through RM3K++, so it won't take a genius to guess how much the Ti variant and the Titan would costs. But a GP100-based card is going to be one hell of a card when it released; 15.3 billion transistor, 3840 SP, 240 TMU and 4096-bit HBM2 memory as compared to GTX 1080's GP104 7.2 billion transistor, 2560 SP, 160 TMU and 256-bit GDDR5X. It's something for you to think about...if you have a deep pockets.

Technology is pretty stagnant IMO, to be able to use a card from 3 years back and still be able to run all new games maxed at 1080p is never happen before in PC world. Usually a big DirectX pushed old hardware to obsolescence both in terms of performance and feature, but current trend is push more toward reducing power consumption.

I expected the new generation cards to reduce power significantly since it's a big leap in process node reduction, indeed the new GTX 1070 and 1080 is fast and consume little power but it didn't make my current card any slower in new games. Since I'm not into resolution race, as long as it could render at native LCD resolution with playable framerate I'm good to go. I enjoyed gaming on 32" 1366x768 as much as on 23" 1920x1080.

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