Good idea!

Good for you. Let us know what you get.

Me have changed many models, just for the fun of it Now using g6. Haven't tried gm5, yet.

True, a new 25/1.7 would probably cost an arm while the 20/1.7 can be easily gotten for well under 1k. The difference in focal length will determine what you will be able to shoot, a 25mm (equiv 50mm) vs the 20mm (40mm). The 20mm will be able to shoot in a tighter space than the 25mm but the 25mm should easily produce better bokeh(blur)theoretically, although that is still left to be seen in actual photos.

Fuiyo! Very nice Ooo!

The girl's face appears to glow so I suspect there might be some form of lighting, since there's backlighting (see the hair on the left). Normally under this lighting condition the camera tends to under-expose the front, which will become dark if not compensated. Me like photo CSI edy ha ha

I am no expert flash user, but some of my best flash pictures comes with the use of TTL flashes. I have used strictly manual flashes from the old days on digital bodies, difficult to control the output. The best are still those native to the camera's makers, i.e. olympus use olympus flash and pana cam bodies use pana flashes. Personally I haven't tried yongnuo, but the 560 you mentioned, isn't that TTL flash too?

I sometime just uses simple generic flash unit that costs less than 100rm, but their functions are limited since no TTL, so the camera won't be able to directly auto adjust the flash output. For critical photo, TTL is still best. Sometimes I just bump up ISO to get better results with the onboard built-in flash, only if you have one on your cam body. That's why I always ensure I get a body with a flash unit, it's very handy sometimes, when you need it, like backlight shooting.

Maybe someone recommends a cheap Yongnuo for our m4/3 bodies?

Fully manual, Powerful and cheap flash from Yongnuo, nice! How much is the setup?

Oh I see.

The newer version ii is the same with version i except some cosmetic changes, no difference in performance between the two. I still prefer version i design-wise, it looked better to me. The version ii has taken the design of the 12-32, they look similar.

here they are:

20mm ver i vs ver ii




20mm vs 12-32mm



This post has been edited by bobds78: Aug 25 2015, 08:52 AM

Oops!

Might as well you get it from Shashinki or Lazada, yes why not? ABQ in Lazada is reputable, as pointed out earlier by BOTAK_WAI. The other one is miyamondo.

This post has been edited by bobds78: Aug 25 2015, 12:09 PM

ABQ or Miyamondo should be selling local sets, they even offer C.O.D., not sure about other sellers though. And if you buy through the Lazada app, there's a further discount of RM30 given.

This post has been edited by bobds78: Aug 25 2015, 12:26 PM

Bro, have you been using this software? How's it? Maybe some short review for us here?



Yup, you can't rush this lens but it will reward you with some very fine photos if your patient. I have been using the 20mm since I first had it with the Ep1 in 2009 (?) I think.

Pana 20mm beats the 19mm every aspect of the game, almost, except the AF speed, if your after this. Otherwise, 20mm a clear winner. I will still go for the 20mm anyday. BOTAK_WAI got it right when he said the 19mm is out cold, coz it's knocked off by the 20/1.7! However, if you haven't had 20mm yet and you come across a cheap Sigma 19mm, go for it.

If paired with pana bodies, the 20mm seems to be faster. So I still say go for it.




Bro, THX for the video!

Unbelievable how the dual IS perform, looks like it beats the Oly's 5-axis at the Tele-end. This is really good news for birders and telephoto users. Just wow! That's huge. You will not be ashamed carrying the GX8 for birding, particularly if all your friends are carrying bazookas!

Bro, try eBay. It's plentiful there and cheap.

Like on the GF series? I reckon that's gonna take sometime. I think it depends on how Successful the GX8 will be. I can foresee not too long from now, longer reach lenses from Pana or even Oly will come out. For now, the longest Tele from Pana is the 100-300 if I am not wrong.

Bro, the lens that was used in the IBIS shootout, seems to be a zoom lens right?

Imaging resource review of the GX8 Mentioned thus, see below pic, that the dual IS doesn't support the 100-300?

Good point!



The longer the better bro, normally the longest end isn't usable as the optimum for IQ normally settled at up to 90% of the telephoto end, say 300mm x 90% =270mm (540mm in FF), so if we have a 400mm, thats 360mm equiv. to 720mm!! That's huge difference. You can shoot from a really safe / undisturbed location

Edit: the Oly 75-300 II is the best at the moment among m4/3. Wait for the 100-400!

This post has been edited by bobds78: Aug 26 2015, 11:59 AM

Fast moving subjects are no no for the 20mm.