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Is this the end of standalone cameras?, Retarded fanboys DONT kam in
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Jul 6 2015, 04:38 PM, updated 11y ago
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Apple so confidently puts up billboards the whole world proclaiming those photos on it were shot using the iPhone 6. Now, any photographer will tell you that for such a large photo, the pixels counts & many factors comes into play..aperture, shutter speed, white balance yada yada yada. So, if that's so, why in the world do we need standalone cameras like DSLR, hybrids, compacts etc anymore when a small phone will do. Is it time to throw away standalone cameras?
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Possible, cause it didnt state the post process use
They can take 12 pictures and merge with photoshop to produce one freaking billboard picture. Hopefully this picture summarize your understanding ![]() This post has been edited by munak991: Jul 6 2015, 04:40 PM |
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yes. iphone camera so very gooding. dslr all can bungkus liao
after this tengok la sports like epl la liga bundesliga f1 ferari badminton yang amik gambar kat tepi2 sume use ipon |
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TS never heard of paranomic photo?
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Nah there will always be purists just like any hobby
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ads got photochop
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yes, taken with ipon 6. edited with mspaint.
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DSLR way better, cant argue
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A7rii > all
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that detail u say it can kill standalone camera???
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standalone camera is mean forevralone use camera
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You guys don't understand? Even if it's shot using a composite of photos, you still don't have lug around a heavy camera. I'm not talking about purist. But for the masses, I don't think they'll bother buying another standalone camera anymore. If the phone can solve the problem of night photography, it's sunset for cameras.
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if you are into photography, you do not need to ask such questions
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Try capture in low Lightning condition, confirm you want to throw your phone
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Topkek who believe the billboard
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last time apple says big phone no one wanna use.. lol
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 04:44 PM) You guys don't understand? Even if it's shot using a composite of photos, you still don't have lug around a heavy camera. I'm not talking about purist. But for the masses, I don't think they'll bother buying another standalone camera anymore. If the phone can solve the problem of night photography, it's sunset for cameras. The thing with small len,is cannot get shallow depth of field.24-30 MP picture quality for poster, billboard and a lot more. You try use iPhone now to shoot night video with high ISO, see how much noise it generated? If stand alone camera can solve everything, why still need DSLR or even Mirrorless |
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those who say iphone can can bungkus dslr seriously knows shit about dslr.......
there are way more things that can be done on dslr that cant be done on a iphone cam..... for point n snap, casual photos i do giv credit to iphone for doing a neat job....other than that...meh... |
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different lenses give different usage. u try use iphone camera shoot f1 still image can or not?
also different photography have different needs for equipment. single lens point n shoot maybe ok for simple outdoor casual shoot. but for proper one, still need dslr. if iphone want to boast, actually nokia have this first with their 41MP camera. and manual setting waaaaay earlier since n8 |
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iPhone camera is great for its category and size but DSLR still leads the way.
Can your iPhone do this? |
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QUOTE(munak991 @ Jul 6 2015, 04:47 PM) The thing with small len,is cannot get shallow depth of field. Again, I'm not talking about purist. What I'm trying to convey is, the standalone cameras will be trounced by a phone, no matter which brand, for those who don't bother about DSLR, mirror less or even compacts.24-30 MP picture quality for poster, billboard and a lot more. You try use iPhone now to shoot night video with high ISO, see how much noise it generated? If stand alone camera can solve everything, why still need DSLR or even Mirrorless QUOTE(andymillenium @ Jul 6 2015, 04:47 PM) those who say iphone can can bungkus dslr seriously knows shit about dslr....... I'm not saying phone can bungkus DSLR.there are way more things that can be done on dslr that cant be done on a iphone cam..... for point n snap, casual photos i do giv credit to iphone for doing a neat job....other than that...meh... |
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It's advertising. Since when advertising has anything to do with honesty and truth?
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 04:51 PM) Again, I'm not talking about purist. What I'm trying to convey is, the standalone cameras will be trounced by a phone, no matter which brand, for those who don't bother about DSLR, mirror less or even compacts. Standalone = not dslr they sayI'm not saying phone can bungkus DSLR. |
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yes ..next time your wedding photo etc all use ipong ..dont use dslr
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kotak sudah gulung tikar bai..just the matter of time
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This is purely a discussion on the viability of cameras being made a dinosaur by the phone. I'm saying this coz there are many camera shops that would have to bungkus soon. It's not like say 5 years back when everyone wants to have a DSLR. For casual photo shoot, I don't think many would bother buying a camera anymore
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lel....a phone camera beating DSLR?
it can't even win RX100 dnt even mention RX10, RX1, A7, A7R2 |
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Jul 6 2015, 04:51 PM) OMG I lazy to explain la... The panorama feature yes...... But iPhone and Android only can take vertical straight line panorama In advance photo editing. you can merge 50 photos into 1 big ass picture when you need high resolution consist of vertical, horizontal and also pan merge |
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OK, I think I made a mistake of calling DSLR fags to kam in. Put your butthurt aside & discuss la.
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because iphone cannot zoom
it is at focal length 28mm |
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QUOTE(munak991 @ Jul 6 2015, 04:55 PM) OMG merge 50 photo into 1I lazy to explain la... The panorama feature yes...... But iPhone and Android only can take vertical straight line panorama In advance photo editing. you can merge 50 photos into 1 big ass picture when you need high resolution consist of vertical, horizontal and also pan merge then compress it to 8MP and claim it captured using ..bla bla phone ...owai |
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Photos taken using an iphone but did they mention what kind of supporting gears they also used or who took that photo? Even a potato photo can look good if it's taken by a pro in ideal lighting condition.
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QUOTE(munak991 @ Jul 6 2015, 04:55 PM) OMG Ayam sorry that ayam causing you butthurt... so muchI lazy to explain la... The panorama feature yes...... But iPhone and Android only can take vertical straight line panorama In advance photo editing. you can merge 50 photos into 1 big ass picture when you need high resolution consist of vertical, horizontal and also pan merge |
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 04:55 PM) This is purely a discussion on the viability of cameras being made a dinosaur by the phone. I'm saying this coz there are many camera shops that would have to bungkus soon. It's not like say 5 years back when everyone wants to have a DSLR. For casual photo shoot, I don't think many would bother buying a camera anymore Oh just like those anti pc claim pc will die smartphone will ruleWhen fact is x86 is everywhere, even phone tablet, heck peasant race console grumbly begged using x86 glorious master race platform Yes it would spell the end in mainstream market but not now not tomorrow maybe in distant future Heck instead they too like pc transcient into just another form factor While phone cam just another trendy point and shoot, still nowhere near what dslsr/professional can provide |
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wow apple punya marketing impressed TS so much
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QUOTE(xtrabite @ Jul 6 2015, 04:45 PM) Same to DSLR but cant admit that DSLR will have more quality...Cause i own dslr and ipon also.... ipon is handphone with addition camera to take photo. DSLR is made to take photo...Spot the differences? So to those who take ipon and pretend want to do photographer and etc. PLS FAGGOT |
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 04:51 PM) Again, I'm not talking about purist. What I'm trying to convey is, the standalone cameras will be trounced by a phone, no matter which brand, for those who don't bother about DSLR, mirror less or even compacts. those walk around in town handing dslr at neck outing with gf etc is hipster lah. they only using auto mode mostly. knows shit about photography.I'm not saying phone can bungkus DSLR. got good phone camera also will bring dslr for style and showing off. that trend died oredi. nobody wants to walk around with something heavy hanging round the neck. |
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Remember this stories....
nokias pureview fake ads using DSLR Nokia Lumia Fake ads Part 2 Still believe in phone companies ? This post has been edited by doppatroll: Jul 6 2015, 05:05 PM |
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I look at the 'Shot on iPhone 6' posters, then I look at my HTC One M8 and i cri evrytim
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it's really that good, last time i stayed in sunway hotel and i took photos of those girls in the theme park from my room.
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Topkek ifeg thinks milo tin can pong > big sensor cam
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> iPhone
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for static of coz la.. try panning.. and uh try beat 135mm f/2 bokeh
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lol TS clearly didnt ever capture picture using any of full frame dslr
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dslr more control.
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QUOTE(big1 @ Jul 6 2015, 04:59 PM) its good think la actually, sony camera have great body feature, just the lens suxnow can use canon and nikon lens, the image should be no much problem dy parasite mean..... 1 camera can use so many other brand lens and first ever, u can AF with nikon lens |
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cameraphones replacing dedicated camera ahahahah suck my dick la.
any serious photographers above the level of hobbyist could easily justify the allure of owning a system what apple did was that they gave the iPhone to a high-tier pro and a proper commercial post processing pro and they claim the result is representative of the majority of the output. anyone who denies this is a shill, this has always been the standar SOP of commercials be it apple canon or nikon. they probably even use state of the art lighting equips for those great "iphone" camera samples. |
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QUOTE(foohoa @ Jul 6 2015, 05:43 PM) its good think la actually, sony camera have great body feature, just the lens sux Its an amazing camera but lack of native lens and using Canikon lens sorta defeats the purpose of a light setup and it feel totally not balanced on hand.now can use canon and nikon lens, the image should be no much problem dy parasite mean..... 1 camera can use so many other brand lens and first ever, u can AF with nikon lens I do see it as an interesting "digital back" for vintage lenses though. QUOTE(cHaRsIeWpAu^^ @ Jul 6 2015, 05:43 PM) physical buttons and touchscreen feeling not same one. Agree but I'm unker already. My kids are more used to touchscreen than buttons.its like playing nintendo games with emulator in computer vs playing games with nintendo 3ds. QUOTE(tahfeikei @ Jul 6 2015, 05:45 PM) This one is purist camera. |
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QUOTE(tahfeikei @ Jul 6 2015, 05:45 PM) there is a lot APSC, that why i keep it simple, for myself at least lol. like xt1, they use APS-C-sized 16M X-Trans CMOS II... what the fucuk of that also u dunno, some say it can surpass FF dslr quality img, but in what aspect... i go to blog review , it is so technical for noob like me.. lol |
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compare ferrari with kancil?
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QUOTE(taohannan @ Jul 6 2015, 05:48 PM) Medium format straight.... lagi busar![]() QUOTE(taohannan @ Jul 6 2015, 05:54 PM) there is a lot APSC, that why i keep it simple, for myself at least lol. like xt1, they use APS-C-sized 16M X-Trans CMOS II... what the fucuk of that also u dunno, some say it can surpass FF dslr quality img, but in what aspect... i go to blog review , it is so technical for noob like me.. lol I think that statement was made with Canon 5D MkII as benchmark. |
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Jul 6 2015, 06:05 PM
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Frankly I find that 80% of the pictures I take are using my iphone.
The other 20% use DSLR only during special events. I don't even bring my fucking DSLR for overseas trips. |
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Billboard so far, mana tau
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Jul 6 2015, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(ProfessorR @ Jul 6 2015, 06:05 PM) Frankly I find that 80% of the pictures I take are using my iphone. Move to mirrorlessThe other 20% use DSLR only during special events. I don't even bring my fucking DSLR for overseas trips. QUOTE(wilsonjay @ Jul 6 2015, 06:08 PM) Filters solves everything |
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I want a nokia 808!!!!!
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for normal people yes.
but for commercial use, i still see people using DSLR. |
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QUOTE(taohannan @ Jul 6 2015, 05:22 PM) Clearly you can't hold on to a decent conversation. Please quote me if I ever mentioned anywhere in my post or comments that iPhone>all? I'm tempted to think most of you are a bunch of retards or at least fanboy of something. Let me reiterate..... THIS IS NOT ABOUT IPHONE HAVING BETTER PQ THAN STANDALONE CAMERAS! IF YOU STILL CANT UNDERSTAND, MAY I SUGGEST THE NEAREST MONTESSORI. |
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Jul 6 2015, 06:30 PM
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ts hulu never own any dslr that's why donno
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Siapa percaya, mak dia hijau
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for normal average evryday peoples, maybe la coz they dun need all those dslrs, etc..
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 04:51 PM) Again, I'm not talking about purist. What I'm trying to convey is, the standalone cameras will be trounced by a phone, no matter which brand, for those who don't bother about DSLR, mirror less or even compacts. Yup smartphones have been displacing the camera market for a long time now. You can see it from the camera industry sales figures like this one: http://petapixel.com/2015/04/09/this-is-wh...hones-included/I'm not saying phone can bungkus DSLR. |
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Jul 6 2015, 06:39 PM
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it's like astrophotography, u dont think that 1 image give u the milky way lel
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Jul 6 2015, 06:41 PM
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hebat gila.. tu baru 8 mp tu
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QUOTE(spacelion @ Jul 6 2015, 06:39 PM) Obviously being a senior member here doesn't exclude you from the R category. Do you even understand plain English to begin with? If I wanna talk about PQ, the title of this tered would've been "why iPhone photos better than DSLR". But it's not. You guys are just full of butthurt. |
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Depends on perspective. I think compacts and prosumers can bungkus already. Dslrs just a matter of time
Just see how the dslrs have evolved over the past 5 years vs the now trusty camera phone |
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Jul 6 2015, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 06:44 PM) Obviously being a senior member here doesn't exclude you from the R category. Do you even understand plain English to begin with? what is PQ, party quest? lol why u so mad. u post an obvious bait thread and expect ppl to reply seriously to you? in kopitiam ?If I wanna talk about PQ, the title of this tered would've been "why iPhone photos better than DSLR". But it's not. You guys are just full of butthurt. |
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QUOTE(spacelion @ Jul 6 2015, 06:50 PM) what is PQ, party quest? lol why u so mad. u post an obvious bait thread and expect ppl to reply seriously to you? in kopitiam ? You don't even begin to understand what a bait tered is. Am I not asking a legitimate question? Tell me which part is the bait? By calling you guys DSLR fags? |
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Jul 6 2015, 06:54 PM
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ts trying hard to be professional
bungkus la dey |
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Jul 6 2015, 06:55 PM
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 06:52 PM) You don't even begin to understand what a bait tered is. Am I not asking a legitimate question? Tell me which part is the bait? By calling you guys DSLR fags? lol, i dont own a dslr so im not insulted by your commentbut if you really wanna debate whether something that has been around for ages will dissappear so soon, then I think you might as well debate whether sports cars will go the way of the dodo once we have efficient electric cars. The answer, obviously, is that there will always exist a niche where people will push the limits of technology, trying to get as much performance as possible out of something. your post is like saying that desktop computer will go away once we have tablet. |
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Standalone camera won't die. But it will become a very niche market with only a few players left to serve the market. Many would divest and exit the field.
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Jul 6 2015, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 07:00 PM) QUOTE THE VERDICT: In every instance, the DSLR is going to take a higher quality image. It has many times more options and the larger file sizes, which allow for clearer and increased detail, especially when enlarged or printed. But for every day shooting and sharing of photos, the iPhone does a surprisingly good job. iPhone images are optimized for viewing on a iPhone as well, so if you’re taking pictures to text, email, SnapChat, or upload to Facebook, an iPhone will do a fine job. now now dont get so upset. it's like those stupid audiophiles, they think CD is the big thing but eventually become outdated as digital high bitrate becomes widely available. You will have your day in the sun, it just won't be as soon as you think. |
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 07:00 PM) The dslr user quite fail... If able to lose to iPhone in catching moving objects (page 7,8,9)Anyway nowadays it's not so much about Image quality already, all the users also viewing on phones and tablet, hard to see much difference. In fact with emergence of mobile devices, the preferred format of videos now are going vertical too.. camera phones trumps in this age because of the ecosystem, it connects to your phone which has a cloud, has post processing apps, links to social media, etc. the experience is constantly evolving unlike the dslr which may try to do the same but ends up clunky |
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QUOTE(spacelion @ Jul 6 2015, 07:11 PM) now now dont get so upset. it's like those stupid audiophiles, they think CD is the big thing but eventually become outdated as digital high bitrate becomes widely available. You will have your day in the sun, it just won't be as soon as you think. Now that's a more decent reply QUOTE(wlcling @ Jul 6 2015, 07:15 PM) The dslr user quite fail... If able to lose to iPhone in catching moving objects (page 7,8,9) True, standalone are trying very hard though. Introduction of video function, wifi connectivity even instant connectivity to social medias. Which is laughable. Are they trying to be a smart phone? Meanwhile, the smartphone tries hard to be...a camera! Where's the point of equilibrium? Anyway nowadays it's not so much about Image quality already, all the users also viewing on phones and tablet, hard to see much difference. In fact with emergence of mobile devices, the preferred format of videos now are going vertical too.. camera phones trumps in this age because of the ecosystem, it connects to your phone which has a cloud, has post processing apps, links to social media, etc. the experience is constantly evolving unlike the dslr which may try to do the same but ends up clunky |
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the answer is simple
if phone camera can replace standalone camera thn there is no need for digital camera, mirrorless, micro 4/3 and DSLR to exist anymore these companies aren't stupid |
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Before all of you fanboys comment any further, here's something the most famous of landscape photographer Ansel Adams would say...
The idea here is that the person, not the gear, takes the picture. And there is a story that tells the tale of an encounter between famous novelist Ernest Hemingway and famous photographer Ansel Adams. In the story, Hemingway is purported to have praised Adams’ photographs, saying, "You take the most amazing pictures. What kind of camera do you use?" Adams frowned and then replied, "You write the most amazing stories. What kind of typewriter do you use?" |
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it's not wrong to dream,
just like vios dreaming of becoming a ferrari both can run quite well on a perfect line at a short distance. One reach 5 minutes earlier, the other 5 minutes later. Not much difference, eh? |
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 04:44 PM) You guys don't understand? Even if it's shot using a composite of photos, you still don't have lug around a heavy camera. I'm not talking about purist. But for the masses, I don't think they'll bother buying another standalone camera anymore. If the phone can solve the problem of night photography, it's sunset for cameras. If like that, very little ppl will buy standalone camera. Then have to raise camera price to compensate. Purist have to sell backside to buy standalone camera = sadding. |
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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Jul 6 2015, 07:37 PM) it's not wrong to dream, I'm a little surprise you've used that analogy. just like vios dreaming of becoming a ferrari both can run quite well on a perfect line at a short distance. One reach 5 minutes earlier, the other 5 minutes later. Not much difference, eh? Imagine this scenario...a person with an iPhone & another with his bags of equipment. In the spur of the moment & at that exact moment, a one in a million shot appears. Who would be laughing all the way to the bank? The Ferrari or the vios? And I'm under the assumption that Ferrari is the bags of gears. Oh, and dang...the person with the bags of gear can't take the shot even after the person with the iPhone camera collected his money for that one in a million shot coz he was busy changing his lens, adjusting the white balance, aperture, shutter bla bla bla |
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Dont fancy using iphones or top grade android phones when on holiday. Why? Battery drains so much. I tend to stay online when abroad. Will use phones for casual fb and jnstagram pics uploading.for the rest,i depend on my mirrorless samsung nx mini.its decent enough. Im more attracted to its Wi-Fi/wireless capabilities
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 07:45 PM) I'm a little surprise you've used that analogy. I'm not saying it's wrong to use iPhone as your main camera. You don't get to lose too much in terms of picture quality if you take pictures casually. I mean, heck, the camera app is well written and the coloring of the photo is amazing!Imagine this scenario...a person with an iPhone & another with his bags of equipment. In the spur of the moment & at that exact moment, a one in a million shot appears. Who would be laughing all the way to the bank? The Ferrari or the vios? And I'm under the assumption that Ferrari is the bags of gears. Oh, and dang...the person with the bags of gear can't take the shot even after the person with the iPhone camera collected his money for that one in a million shot coz he was busy changing his lens, adjusting the white balance, aperture, shutter bla bla bla But when you wanna go up the big stage, you get the big gun. Low light? Long shutter speed? Depth? Cannon length lens? List goes on and on in terms of the advantage of using full-fledged camera. Yes, undeniably, phone camera is really portable and mobile and a one-stop solution for many things. So, it's situational. I don't really think phone camera can really replace those big ass cameras in terms of quality. Usability? That's a check. |
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QUOTE(Noyoudontcare @ Jul 6 2015, 07:49 PM) Dont fancy using iphones or top grade android phones when on holiday. Why? Battery drains so much. I tend to stay online when abroad. Will use phones for casual fb and jnstagram pics uploading.for the rest,i depend on my mirrorless samsung nx mini.its decent enough. Im more attracted to its Wi-Fi/wireless capabilities So what phone are you using when abroad? |
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You kidding me?
No way in hell standalone cameras will replace dslr. Dslr is really exceptional when taking pictures. Ipong and the likes is for casual photography, taking pictures the moment you want to capture it. |
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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Jul 6 2015, 07:55 PM) I'm not saying it's wrong to use iPhone as your main camera. You don't get to lose too much in terms of picture quality if you take pictures casually. I mean, heck, the camera app is well written and the coloring of the photo is amazing! No one is disputing the DSLR in terms of flexibility in usage & in the hands of a capable person can produce photos that a camera phone can only dream of. But when you wanna go up the big stage, you get the big gun. Low light? Long shutter speed? Depth? Cannon length lens? List goes on and on in terms of the advantage of using full-fledged camera. Yes, undeniably, phone camera is really portable and mobile and a one-stop solution for many things. So, it's situational. I don't really think phone camera can really replace those big ass cameras in terms of quality. Usability? That's a check. However, camera phone has pretty much triumphed over compacts and with more development over the years, who would bet against it toppling mirror less first of all? |
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 08:03 PM) No one is disputing the DSLR in terms of flexibility in usage & in the hands of a capable person can produce photos that a camera phone can only dream of. triumphed over in terms of number of units in the market? Certainly.However, camera phone has pretty much triumphed over compacts and with more development over the years, who would bet against it toppling mirror less first of all? Triumphed over in terms of value? maybe. Yeah. Triumphed over in terms of portability and usability? Definitely. Triumphed over in terms of quality? I don't know. Maybe. They need to overcome the physical limitation first. |
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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Jul 6 2015, 08:15 PM) triumphed over in terms of number of units in the market? Certainly. A person who would only ever view the photos in FB or Instagram wouldn't care about quality.Triumphed over in terms of value? maybe. Yeah. Triumphed over in terms of portability and usability? Definitely. Triumphed over in terms of quality? I don't know. Maybe. They need to overcome the physical limitation first. |
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No bcos d camera wif d fancy add on lens is sniper
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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Jul 6 2015, 08:25 PM) Your assumptions are fair and reflected my opinions too. Sadly that's the reality, like it or not. Have you ever encountered a person who judges the "quality" of the photo based on how clear the device's display is? But my insta mostly following a/c like Sony Russia, Canon, Nikon, etc. LOL. |
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 04:44 PM) You guys don't understand? Even if it's shot using a composite of photos, you still don't have lug around a heavy camera. I'm not talking about purist. But for the masses, I don't think they'll bother buying another standalone camera anymore. If the phone can solve the problem of night photography, it's sunset for cameras. Just cause its capable doesnt mean evryone can emulate the same result..dont think anyone can take d same result without a specific setups n post processing and multiple exposure edits..u think evryone in the masses can do that.. |
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 07:45 PM) I'm a little surprise you've used that analogy. A lot of the iconic photos, are taken during times of war, famine, natural disasters etc, where there is scarce food, shelter let alone electricity. Hence the use of simple mechanical film cameras. In these conditions, the iPhone would be dead and useless in two days. If you turn on the iPhone for that "one in a million shot" in a war zone, the screen will light up, and you would be dead. Imagine this scenario...a person with an iPhone & another with his bags of equipment. In the spur of the moment & at that exact moment, a one in a million shot appears. Who would be laughing all the way to the bank? The Ferrari or the vios? And I'm under the assumption that Ferrari is the bags of gears. Oh, and dang...the person with the bags of gear can't take the shot even after the person with the iPhone camera collected his money for that one in a million shot coz he was busy changing his lens, adjusting the white balance, aperture, shutter bla bla bla |
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 08:29 PM) Sadly that's the reality, like it or not. Have you ever encountered a person who judges the "quality" of the photo based on how clear the device's display is? Vibrance and contrast max.LOL. I mean, softness is becoming a rare quality for photos. Nowadays it's max sharpness max contrast. Just like in audio. Max bass = good. Well, i'm not sure if smartphone cameras can match the quality one day. One thing I guess, it's still a very long way to go. Regarding the number of sales, I don't think it's that. I guess smartphone can revive the hi-end camera market as more people who have expendable income will enter this segment after having the taste of what smarphone camera can do. |
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QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ Jul 6 2015, 08:45 PM) A lot of the iconic photos, are taken during times of war, famine, natural disasters etc, where there is scarce food, shelter let alone electricity. Hence the use of simple mechanical film cameras. In these conditions, the iPhone would be dead and useless in two days. If you turn on the iPhone for that "one in a million shot" in a war zone, the screen will light up, and you would be dead. Oh? I didn't know a DSLR is stealthy? |
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I can't belif ifegit r retarded enuf to belif ipong 0.1" sensor> big sensor...oh waii we're talking about ifeggit now it make sense
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Comparing a mobile's camera capabilities and a DSLR is equivalent to comparing Apples and Oranges.
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 07:45 PM) I'm a little surprise you've used that analogy. Using a 24-70 f2.8 lens..dnt need to change too much setting..set it to aperture priority mode and ur good to go..heck all d pros already have presets for their settings..no need to do too much fine tuning..btw it is situational..lets give to exampleImagine this scenario...a person with an iPhone & another with his bags of equipment. In the spur of the moment & at that exact moment, a one in a million shot appears. Who would be laughing all the way to the bank? The Ferrari or the vios? And I'm under the assumption that Ferrari is the bags of gears. Oh, and dang...the person with the bags of gear can't take the shot even after the person with the iPhone camera collected his money for that one in a million shot coz he was busy changing his lens, adjusting the white balance, aperture, shutter bla bla bla 1. Suddenly a ufo appears at night..lets say i can fire my shot as fast as u fire d shot from ur iphone, as i already have a 24-70 at my body..which one do u think can have better result..or might be ur iphone is focus hunting in the dark without being able to focus properly in d dark.. 2. An accidents happen 500m away..i can twist my zoom up to the 70mm and get good shots in mere second..u think u can zoom in as much?even if i ddnt zoom in i can still crop my pix better without losing all d details 3. If u r saying i can mess up my settings, thats y use ur dslr to the max..shoot in raw..u can save a lot more then..but then might be there are situation that iphone might have d upper hand..when its ideal for d phone it is..but if two person is already each holding an iphone and a dslr..dnt think d one wit d slr will be slower than the one with iphone if he knws what hes doing.. |
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QUOTE(munak991 @ Jul 6 2015, 04:47 PM) The thing with small len,is cannot get shallow depth of field. Sorry I didn't reply this earlier. It was piled up amidst a pike of shit. 24-30 MP picture quality for poster, billboard and a lot more. You try use iPhone now to shoot night video with high ISO, see how much noise it generated? If stand alone camera can solve everything, why still need DSLR or even Mirrorless OK, so you didn't see the first photo of this tered. So, some of you really are foreveralones who never goes out from the house & doesn't look up to see the many billboards apple puts up on the iPhone 6. Or you take public transport only, never had the chance to see billboards besides buildings & roads. OK, sorry I didn't know you guys are so ignorant. So anyone wanna challenge Apple that the photos on the billboards were not taken with an iPhone? Afterall, as the quote above said, minimum of 24MP required for billboards. iPhone 6 only has 8MP This post has been edited by treblecase: Jul 6 2015, 09:32 PM |
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DSLR is to act high class
in chinese words 装逼 there is no real reason for it, hanging several KG things on your neck, that cant take a little bit vibration and water, else it breaks, lolololol if iphone can already take such photos, those camera phone sure as hell can do much better, and DSLR just isnt worth the money and effort This post has been edited by Manlet: Jul 6 2015, 09:31 PM |
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QUOTE(Manlet @ Jul 6 2015, 09:30 PM) DSLR is to act high class in chinese words 装逼 there is no real reason for it, hanging several KG things on your neck, that cant take a little bit vibration and water, else it breaks, lolololol if iphone can already take such photos, those camera phone sure as hell can do much better, and DSLR just isnt worth the money and effort |
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argument thread for DSLR and iphone, LOL>
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 09:19 PM) Sorry I didn't reply this earlier. It was piled up amidst a pike of shit. Ya, imagine DSLR can just take 1 -3 shot and merge to become 1 billboard pictureOK, so you didn't see the first photo of this tered. So, some of you really are foreveralones who never goes out from the house & doesn't look up to see the many billboards apple puts up on the iPhone 6. Or you take public transport only, never had the chance to see billboards besides buildings & roads. OK, sorry I didn't know you guys are so ignorant. So anyone wanna challenge Apple that the photos on the billboards were not taken with an iPhone? Afterall, as the quote above said, minimum of 24MP required for billboards. iPhone 6 only has 8MP But take with iPhone 6, maybe require to take 3x the amount and merge it to match the resolution =) |
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QUOTE(munak991 @ Jul 6 2015, 09:36 PM) Ya, imagine DSLR can just take 1 -3 shot and merge to become 1 billboard picture So, you have just confirmed the worst fear of DSLR fanboys. It's possible for a phone to match a DSLR. But take with iPhone 6, maybe require to take 3x the amount and merge it to match the resolution =) |
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thread is so fucking cringe-worthy, arguing that one day phone cameras will completely annihilate professional gears lol effing wutt??
I can see this coming into a total realization if you're one to associate yourself as a fucking pleb lmao, there's a reason why they are called professional gears to begin with. Here's a case study for you, tablets vs laptops. Go figure what happened to that war and come back here if you got any valid points for your already-doomed argument. |
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QUOTE(Ayer @ Jul 6 2015, 09:44 PM) thread is so fucking cringe-worthy, arguing that one day phone cameras will completely annihilate professional gears lol effing wutt?? Having an army of vocabulary & vulgar words doesn't disqualify you from being a retard. What argument am I for and against? What was presented in my first post?I can see this coming into a total realization if you're one to associate yourself as a fucking pleb lmao, there's a reason why they are called professional gears to begin with. Here's a case study for you, tablets vs laptops. Go figure what happened to that war and come back here if you got any valid points for your already-doomed argument. |
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QUOTE(Manlet @ Jul 6 2015, 09:30 PM) DSLR is to act high class miskin tak pa, jangan bodo jer.in chinese words 装逼 there is no real reason for it, hanging several KG things on your neck, that cant take a little bit vibration and water, else it breaks, lolololol if iphone can already take such photos, those camera phone sure as hell can do much better, and DSLR just isnt worth the money and effort ![]() |
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to take those kind of pictures, you need to compensate for light intensity, temperature, humidity and also take into account the coreolis effect of the photons
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behind the scenes ada 100 crew to snap that pic with profesional equipment
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nice thread, i liked to take photos.
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Yeap, iPhone's camera is so good till DxO coming out a 'standalone' camera for it
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 09:46 PM) Having an army of vocabulary & vulgar words doesn't disqualify you from being a retard. What argument am I for and against? What was presented in my first post? why should i be the one to tell your mustard ass for whom and what you are against? Here's what i can tell for now, what was presented in the first post might be true but it hardly makes your argument strong enough. |
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QUOTE(Ayer @ Jul 6 2015, 09:55 PM) why should i be the one to tell your mustard ass for whom and what you are against? And what's my argument? The only argument I see here are by pickle dicks like you who can on,y see things in one light. Pardon the pun.Here's what i can tell for now, what was presented in the first post might be true but it hardly makes your argument strong enough. |
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 06:25 PM) Clearly you can't hold on to a decent conversation. Please quote me if I ever mentioned anywhere in my post or comments that iPhone>all? so butthurt so its clear to say u never capture any picture with FF dslr, and thats why u suggested so in ur title? dont open a thread la if cant stand criticism, u think when u open a thread ppl will always worship u? what a retardI'm tempted to think most of you are a bunch of retards or at least fanboy of something. Let me reiterate..... THIS IS NOT ABOUT IPHONE HAVING BETTER PQ THAN STANDALONE CAMERAS! IF YOU STILL CANT UNDERSTAND, MAY I SUGGEST THE NEAREST MONTESSORI. QUOTE Apple so confidently puts up billboards the whole world proclaiming those photos on it were shot using the iPhone 6. Now, any photographer will tell you that for such a large photo, the pixels counts & many factors comes into play..aperture, shutter speed, white balance yada yada yada. So, if that's so, why in the world do we need standalone cameras like DSLR, hybrids, compacts etc anymore when a small phone will do. Is it time to throw away standalone cameras? so i dont agree with ur own words of suggestion, why u butthurt? stupid enough to go MONTESSORI? This post has been edited by taohannan: Jul 6 2015, 10:04 PM |
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After this nat geo photographer no nid to bring thousands of dollar worth of lense. Just use iPhone
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QUOTE(taohannan @ Jul 6 2015, 10:01 PM) so butthurt so its clear to say u never capture any picture with FF dslr, and thats why u suggested so in ur title? dont open a thread la if cant stand criticism, u think when u open a thread ppl will always worship u? what a retard I beg your pardon? How about you get lost if you can't stand criticism against your beloved 5 figure full frame whatever that you have. When your teacher asked you to study never did. Now blame others when you can't understand shit. |
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 10:04 PM) I beg your pardon? How about you get lost if you can't stand criticism against your beloved 5 figure full frame whatever that you have. When your teacher asked you to study never did. Now blame others when you can't understand shit. i think u are full of shit, read ur first post retard, u did ask its time to throw standalone cameradont go full retard, even if u are full retard |
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QUOTE(taohannan @ Jul 6 2015, 10:01 PM) so butthurt so its clear to say u never capture any picture with FF dslr, and thats why u suggested so in ur title? dont open a thread la if cant stand criticism, u think when u open a thread ppl will always worship u? what a retard Somehow the words "throw" & "camera" doesn't sit well with you. The inner OCD tingling at the thought of your hard earned cash or lifetime saving used in buying your beloved full frame camera. And wait for it....how sure are you I don't have what you think I don't have? so i dont agree with ur own words of suggestion, why u butthurt? stupid enough to go MONTESSORI? |
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 10:09 PM) Somehow the words "throw" & "camera" doesn't sit well with you. The inner OCD tingling at the thought of your hard earned cash or lifetime saving used in buying your beloved full frame camera. And wait for it....how sure are you I don't have what you think I don't have? better act class then be stupid like u, u ask i answer then u rage what a sstupid |
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 10:10 PM) if u ever take picture with FF DSLR u wont compare it with iphone, and u will not ever suggest to throw standalone camera. and only stupid like u will ask such question, and only a retard like u will butthurt over ur own stupidity. |
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QUOTE(munak991 @ Jul 6 2015, 04:40 PM) Possible, cause it didnt state the post process use They can take 12 pictures and merge with photoshop to produce one freaking billboard picture. Hopefully this picture summarize your understanding ![]() QUOTE(CosmicMass @ Jul 6 2015, 04:40 PM) QUOTE(tahfeikei @ Jul 6 2015, 04:44 PM) QUOTE(munak991 @ Jul 6 2015, 04:47 PM) The thing with small len,is cannot get shallow depth of field. 24-30 MP picture quality for poster, billboard and a lot more. You try use iPhone now to shoot night video with high ISO, see how much noise it generated? If stand alone camera can solve everything, why still need DSLR or even Mirrorless QUOTE(tahfeikei @ Jul 6 2015, 04:49 PM) i will still say the same....if you really understand photography, you do not need to compare an iphone with a dslr/csc/compact/etc etc QUOTE(LVL1NiNjA @ Jul 6 2015, 04:50 PM) iPhone camera is great for its category and size but DSLR still leads the way. if everyone a retard, means u are godlike? when all around ppl doesnt agree with u, its mean the problem is u, a full retard TSCan your iPhone do this? |
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 09:59 PM) And what's my argument? The only argument I see here are by pickle dicks like you who can on,y see things in one light. Pardon the pun. Explain why im the ignant one here who oh so refused to see things in many perspectives despite acknowledging your point.My only gripe is that your argument lacks merit, there's almost zero substance. What im saying is you need to try harder to come up with more stuff, you cant just surge into a battlefield with just one bullet cant you? |
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QUOTE(taohannan @ Jul 6 2015, 10:12 PM) if u ever take picture with FF DSLR u wont compare it with iphone, and u will not ever suggest to throw standalone camera. and only stupid like u will ask such question, and only a retard like u will butthurt over ur own stupidity. Ooooooo....a full frame worshipper we have here. Someone who thought he bought the best thing since sliced bread. Credit to you for not using the auto mode coz there's no such thing in an FF camera. How about show us your masterpiece here? |
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You won't get that kind of quality unless you did some tweaks to the picture. Try taking a picture using an iPhone 6, it takes good pictures, but will never replace a DSLR.
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 07:35 PM) Before all of you fanboys comment any further, here's something the most famous of landscape photographer Ansel Adams would say... I believe what he meant was that the camera was not important in a sense that it was just a wooden box. What is important was the lens (not so much as landscape is usually done with small apertures) AND film SIZE i.e. large format. My understanding was that a lot of his pictures were taken by 8"x10". You will never get the same definition/detail using smaller format 35mm negatives. iPhone sensor size is way way smaller. (In short, use the right tools for the right job.)The idea here is that the person, not the gear, takes the picture. And there is a story that tells the tale of an encounter between famous novelist Ernest Hemingway and famous photographer Ansel Adams. In the story, Hemingway is purported to have praised Adams’ photographs, saying, "You take the most amazing pictures. What kind of camera do you use?" Adams frowned and then replied, "You write the most amazing stories. What kind of typewriter do you use?" |
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QUOTE(Ayer @ Jul 6 2015, 10:16 PM) Explain why im the ignant one here who oh so refused to see things in many perspectives despite acknowledging your point. OK. Point taken. If I'm arguing at all that is. A downward spiral in the sale of compacts is not evident enough? A distinct lack and/or interest by the manufacturers in coming out with new compacts is not evident enough? My only gripe is that your argument lacks merit, there's almost zero substance. What im saying is you need to try harder to come up with more stuff, you cant just surge into a battlefield with just one bullet cant you? My question was never meant to be an argument. A suggestion perhaps. But it's those butthurt fanboys who can't engage in a good forum that's the problem here. Oh...so I have a FF so it must be king. Oh..so I have a 70-200 f2.8 lens so I must be invincible. Oh...never in a million years a phone can overtake a DSLR. Please. |
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QUOTE(Manlet @ Jul 6 2015, 09:30 PM) DSLR is to act high class To make such bold statement either u r a lousy photographer with dslr or u never use a dslr before. At the end of the day its the man behind the lens that matters. in chinese words 装逼 there is no real reason for it, hanging several KG things on your neck, that cant take a little bit vibration and water, else it breaks, lolololol if iphone can already take such photos, those camera phone sure as hell can do much better, and DSLR just isnt worth the money and effort To take those wonderful shots with iphone on billboards are famous photographer who know exactly what is the strength of the camera and take the shot. They didnt use it to take pictures that show weakness of a camera phone like potraits, extra wide landscape, moving subjects or dark environment. These photographers can squeeze out 100% potential out of the device they have. Try search youtube for "pro photog with cheap camera" by Digitalrev. There are many dslr users who are just lousy. Shooting in auto mode might as well use compact cam or phone. But you can't generalize all dslr users like that. It all depends on what you want. U want portability and simple to use then camera phone. U want high quality picture in high res then dslr. If u just want to selfie, instagram or fb the photo, iphone is good enough to view on portable device. If u want to pixel peep or bokeh then dslr. There is market for both segment. Iphone can never replace dslr but replace compact camera is a true fact. Mirrorless taking over dslr market share is also very true as well but will not replace totally. At the end of the day, the best camera is the camera that is with u when u wAnt to take that shot This post has been edited by chinteck79: Jul 6 2015, 10:29 PM |
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QUOTE(chinteck79 @ Jul 6 2015, 10:27 PM) To make such bold statement either u r a lousy photographer with dslr or u never use a dslr before. At the end of the day its the man behind the lens that matters. Very fair point. Just like record player-CD-MP3s, now cloud music (somewhere there a certain record made a minor comeback) If this thread was about how you listen to music, I'm pretty sure it'll be a different set of butthurt audiophiles who are raging. The argument about quality would be the same I guess.To take those wonderful shots with iphone on billboards are famous photographer who know exactly what is the strength of the camera and take the shot. They didnt use it to take pictures that show weakness of a camera phone like potraits, extra wide landscape, moving subjects or dark environment. These photographers can squeeze out 100% potential out of the device they have. Try search youtube for "pro photog with cheap camera" by Digitalrev. There are many dslr users who are just lousy. Shooting in auto mode might as well use compact cam or phone. But you can't generalize all dslr users like that. It all depends on what you want. U want portability and simple to use then camera phone. U want high quality picture in high res then dslr. If u just want to selfie, instagram or fb the photo, iphone is good enough to view on portable device. If u want to pixel peep or bokeh then dslr. There is market for both segment. Iphone can never replace dslr but replace compact camera is a true fact. Mirrorless taking over dslr market share is also very true as well but will not replace totally. At the end of the day, the best camera is the camera that is with u when u wAnt to take that shot Consider this... ![]() And visit this... http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/12/5802800/...phy-awards-2014 |
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 10:25 PM) OK. Point taken. If I'm arguing at all that is. A downward spiral in the sale of compacts is not evident enough? A distinct lack and/or interest by the manufacturers in coming out with new compacts is not evident enough? Reason why a phone can never overtake a DSLR, like i hinted before many a times, is a matter of professionals vs casuals. Right now way i see it you are standing up as a casual user, failing to oversee things from a much broader perspective. When you imply that DSLRs and other professional gears will become redundant, you're being dismissive as hell. We're talking an entire industry here, people who not just take it up as a hobby, but as a serious profession.My question was never meant to be an argument. A suggestion perhaps. But it's those butthurt fanboys who can't engage in a good forum that's the problem here. Oh...so I have a FF so it must be king. Oh..so I have a 70-200 f2.8 lens so I must be invincible. Oh...never in a million years a phone can overtake a DSLR. Please. Compacts and full-fledged photography gears (like DSLR) are different entities, compacts can still be considered as casual device, despite being a single purpose-built gadget. Oh and i feel like i should tell you that im no professional photographer, im just a person who provides his input on this whole situation. |
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QUOTE(Ayer @ Jul 6 2015, 10:48 PM) Reason why a phone can never overtake a DSLR, like i hinted before many a times, is a matter of professionals vs casuals. Right now way i see it you are standing up as a casual user, failing to oversee things from a much broader perspective. When you imply that DSLRs and other professional gears will become redundant, you're being dismissive as hell. We're talking an entire industry here, people who not just take it up as a hobby, but as a serious profession. Alright, fair points taken. I have never suggested a camera phone, no matter the brand, could replace the DSLR in the professional field (people who makes a living from it not casual photographers who just wanna have the best of everything thinking they'll be as good as the pros too). Nor have I suggested that a camera phone could ever replace the gear a hobbyist have at the moment. The purist as I have mentioned before. Sadly, the purist can never overtake the number of casual photographers (term used loosely here). And market force dictates that a DSLR will once again be a niche market. Compacts and full-fledged photography gears (like DSLR) are different entities, compacts can still be considered as casual device, despite being a single purpose-built gadget. Oh and i feel like i should tell you that im no professional photographer, im just a person who provides his input on this whole situation. Love them or loathe them, Apple has actually presented to the GENERAL public that, yes, it's ok to ditch your DSLR, it's ok to ditch your hybrids, it's completely ok to throw your compacts. Buy our phones, you will be perceived as having a pro quality camera JUST like a DSLR ad that suggest yes, you a nerd with apathy in photo skill can be like a pro too! |
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 09:40 PM) So, you have just confirmed the worst fear of DSLR fanboys. It's possible for a phone to match a DSLR. Yes, not only just possible. The result its just infront of you.IT IS PROVEN http://www.apple.com/iphone/world-gallery/...-kwg-iphone-com ITS HERE! photography is all about skill not gear! This post has been edited by munak991: Jul 6 2015, 11:10 PM |
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This is an interesting vid. Compares Iphone to standalone cameras.
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QUOTE(chinteck79 @ Jul 6 2015, 10:27 PM) To make such bold statement either u r a lousy photographer with dslr or u never use a dslr before. At the end of the day its the man behind the lens that matters. ok, so now u go vacation instead of bringing a smartphone like the 6 plus, or the s6, which can do pretty much everything above averageTo take those wonderful shots with iphone on billboards are famous photographer who know exactly what is the strength of the camera and take the shot. They didnt use it to take pictures that show weakness of a camera phone like potraits, extra wide landscape, moving subjects or dark environment. These photographers can squeeze out 100% potential out of the device they have. Try search youtube for "pro photog with cheap camera" by Digitalrev. There are many dslr users who are just lousy. Shooting in auto mode might as well use compact cam or phone. But you can't generalize all dslr users like that. It all depends on what you want. U want portability and simple to use then camera phone. U want high quality picture in high res then dslr. If u just want to selfie, instagram or fb the photo, iphone is good enough to view on portable device. If u want to pixel peep or bokeh then dslr. There is market for both segment. Iphone can never replace dslr but replace compact camera is a true fact. Mirrorless taking over dslr market share is also very true as well but will not replace totally. At the end of the day, the best camera is the camera that is with u when u wAnt to take that shot you bring a DSLR, because it is the best in capturing picture, and you also bring along a satellite phone because it has the best signal, also a military precision GPS because it has the best accuracy that is within 2 meters you also bring along a desktop right, because then you can book flight and plan your itinerary, and since desktop is the best, compared to laptops correct ? This post has been edited by Manlet: Jul 6 2015, 11:07 PM |
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 6 2015, 11:04 PM) Alright, fair points taken. I have never suggested a camera phone, no matter the brand, could replace the DSLR in the professional field (people who makes a living from it not casual photographers who just wanna have the best of everything thinking they'll be as good as the pros too). Nor have I suggested that a camera phone could ever replace the gear a hobbyist have at the moment. The purist as I have mentioned before. Sadly, the purist can never overtake the number of casual photographers (term used loosely here). And market force dictates that a DSLR will once again be a niche market. Yes, im with you in saying that Apple has managed to influence the whole game in more prominent ways just like how they did it with the introduction of Apple Store,iTunes and iPhones. More people are snapping pictures, taking photos are no longer an activity exclusive to people with cameras which at one point considered to be a very expensive thing. Making photography more approachable has taken social life into a whole new level. These are all outstanding merits which is why i believe Apple is deserving of all the praises they have gathered so far.Love them or loathe them, Apple has actually presented to the GENERAL public that, yes, it's ok to ditch your DSLR, it's ok to ditch your hybrids, it's completely ok to throw your compacts. Buy our phones, you will be perceived as having a pro quality camera JUST like a DSLR ad that suggest yes, you a nerd with apathy in photo skill can be like a pro too! But will camera phones overtake professional gears someday? no and they never will. But why should a competition exist in the first place? they are both entities that compliments each other, as opposed to some opinions out here that demands that only one will survive. This is not a deathmatch, it does not have to be. |
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why scientists don't replace Hubble Space Telescope with iPhone?
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QUOTE(Ayer @ Jul 6 2015, 11:18 PM) Yes, im with you in saying that Apple has managed to influence the whole game in more prominent ways just like how they did it with the introduction of Apple Store,iTunes and iPhones. More people are snapping pictures, taking photos are no longer an activity exclusive to people with cameras which at one point considered to be a very expensive thing. Making photography more approachable has taken social life into a whole new level. These are all outstanding merits which is why i believe Apple is deserving of all the praises they have gathered so far. You sir have my utmost respect in presenting a clear comment in a forum, something that's lacking in most so-called forum participants here. But will camera phones overtake professional gears someday? no and they never will. But why should a competition exist in the first place? they are both entities that compliments each other, as opposed to some opinions out here that demands that only one will survive. This is not a deathmatch, it does not have to be. Apologies for the harsh language earlier |
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QUOTE(munak991 @ Jul 6 2015, 11:05 PM) Yes, not only just possible. The result its just infront of you. It's about skills and gear. You can't that kind of photo with black and white camera can you?IT IS PROVEN http://www.apple.com/iphone/world-gallery/...-kwg-iphone-com ITS HERE! photography is all about skill not gear! |
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It seems as soon as one iPhone makes it to market fanboys are already clamouring for the next. With this year's update expected to be the obligatory 's' skew to 2014's iPhone 6 expectations should be tempered; however, speculation would have it that this could be the biggest incremental upgrade of all time!
Early rumours in June suggested front camera flash and hints of a DSLR-style lens; and now in July we're beginning to see hard evidence in the form of leaked pics. 9to5Mac reports an almost physically identical upgrade to the unit which would put a damper on murmurs over the use of dual lens DSLR quality camera tech. With internal boards & components repositioned there's still room to innovate inside The biggest news from this leak suggests that the iPhone will carry a brand new 12-megapixel rear-facing camera, a 5-megapixel front-facing camera (for the selfie inclined), and 4k video recording to boot; let's hope the iPhone 6s packs enough storage for iPhone filmmakers. iPhoneography is at an all time high (the most used camera on Flickr)and the award-winning Shot on iPhone 6 ad campaign has been plastered around town to prove it. So will we be seeing creamier photos and the rise of bokeh as iPhone takes it to the mainstream? If so, then we liked it before it was cool! This post has been edited by idoblu: Jul 7 2015, 07:52 AM |
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Sony sensor in Iphone6 really good
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QUOTE(Manlet @ Jul 6 2015, 11:06 PM) ok, so now u go vacation instead of bringing a smartphone like the 6 plus, or the s6, which can do pretty much everything above average Such argumentyou bring a DSLR, because it is the best in capturing picture, and you also bring along a satellite phone because it has the best signal, also a military precision GPS because it has the best accuracy that is within 2 meters you also bring along a desktop right, because then you can book flight and plan your itinerary, and since desktop is the best, compared to laptops correct ? |
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A DSLR has many features that an iphone doesn't have. For serious photography like birding and macro shots...burst mode, fast capture and focusing, you haven't experienced the finer points of digital photography. The iphone is good for recreational photography but for serious photography...come on!
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