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Priscilla Yong
post Jul 16 2015, 03:38 PM

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[quote=miracle80,Jul 7 2015, 10:45 PM]
[quote=Priscilla Yong,Jul 7 2015, 11:23 AM]
Hi I went to Kastam & get confirmation on the issue. Apparently, different Kastam officer advise differently. However, one point is confirmed, if you're GSt registered person & sign the S&P with Ideal City longer than 2 years prior to GST implementation date 1/4/15, kindly write in to Ideal City / call them to bill you zero-rated under Sec. 187 "Contracts with no opportunity to review". Ideal City PIC argued that they have checked the page 15 clause 23 in S&P with their appointed lawyer, the laws refer construction related laws & not applicable to GST.
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Yes eventhough the clause not applicable for GST, does any clause in S&P stated that we need to pay for GST?
In fact I had given my S&P to my lawyer to review, he stated that the clause in pg. 15 is protecting buyer. Thus he advise me to gather all the buyer n negotiate with the developer to waive the GST. What do you think?
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I shall update you on my meeting outcome at Putrajaya with Customs Department's GST unit assistant director. Cheers!
Priscilla Yong
post Jul 16 2015, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 8 2015, 08:32 AM)
GST cannot be waived one and cannot be zero rated simply by anyone.

You cannot have a S&P to counter act the GST ruling. (like as mentioned above zero rated the GST because of contract with no opportunity to review)

Somebody must pay the GST if the GST ruling said, any progressive payment on non-GST exempted property (commercial/industrial) after 1/4/2015 is subjected to GST.

No one can overule the GST ruling.

So GST is a must, aka you cannot overule the law/existing GST ruling.

While a contract is silence on GST, it doesn't mean buyer is not subjected to GST.
Just like teacher ask the student, anyone finish their homework, the whole class silent, it doesn't mean the student finish or not finish their homework.

But on the term "no opportunity to review", then it is between purchaser and vendor already, which is another issue.
Until there is a verdict on similar case, or any specific directive or ruling from Custom department to deal with the case mentioned, we cannot assure the solution should be.
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I'm sorry to disagree, "no opportunity to review" is confirmed by Kastam Kelana Jaya with T&C applies. Eg S&P signed minimum 2 years before GST implementation date, both vendor & purchaser are registered person.
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post Jul 16 2015, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(Priscilla Yong @ Jul 16 2015, 03:43 PM)
I'm sorry to disagree, "no opportunity to review" is confirmed by Kastam Kelana Jaya with T&C applies. Eg S&P signed minimum 2 years before GST implementation date, both vendor & purchaser are registered person.
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I don't know what you disagree about.

Also, I think little people could understand what you are trying to say with the above statement, care to elaborate more?

Whether the S&P price is inclusive or exclusive, (no opportunity to review issue) it doesn't differ that GST must incur or must be paid after 1/4/2015.

If the price is RM100k,
either developer charge 100K + 6% = Rm106K, or RM94340 + 6% = Rm100K. (if based on no opportunity to review clause)

How can purchaser request developer to issue a tax invoice with zero rated, (RM100K + 0%), when they actually deliver a standard rated item?




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post Jul 21 2015, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(Priscilla Yong @ Jul 16 2015, 03:38 PM)
I shall update you on my meeting outcome at Putrajaya with Customs Department's GST unit assistant director. Cheers!
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Hi Priscillia, hope u r well.
Is there any outcome on your meeting?
rjagen
post Jan 20 2016, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(miracle80 @ Jul 21 2015, 10:37 PM)
Hi Priscillia, hope u r well.
Is there any outcome on your meeting?
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Hi Pricilla,

Any update post your meeting with custom officials.

I am one of the buyer too.Please advise
Priscilla Yong
post May 29 2016, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(rjagen @ Jan 20 2016, 07:04 PM)
Hi Pricilla,

Any update post your meeting with custom officials.

I am one of the buyer too.Please advise
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Sorry for missing the update. I went to Putrajaya GST HQ, our S&P and confirmed by them that Ideal City the developer has to bear the gst portion as the contract does not have any specific clause that GST is excluded. Also, they confirmed that the selling price is with gst embedded. I have emailed to Ideal City and informed i will not pay anything and they have no right to charge me on 6% gst on remaining portion. They reply my email saying that they are filing court jurisdiction to look into this and once the order out they will impose across all buyers. To-date i still don't hear from Ideal nor they ask for the gst.
VinluV
post Jun 3 2016, 04:17 PM

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Hi all,

May i know if anyone from SOFO projects got any exempt from GST?
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post Jun 3 2016, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 16 2015, 11:41 PM)
I don't know what you disagree about.

Also, I think little people could understand what you are trying to say with the above statement, care to elaborate more?

Whether the S&P price is inclusive or exclusive, (no opportunity to review issue) it doesn't differ that GST must incur or must be paid after 1/4/2015.

If the price is RM100k,
either developer charge 100K + 6% = Rm106K, or RM94340 + 6% = Rm100K. (if based on no opportunity to review clause)

How can purchaser request developer to issue a tax invoice with zero rated, (RM100K + 0%), when they actually deliver a standard rated item?
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answered in the past lel... didnt even look at the year before responding. nothing to see here.

There's actually a carve out for long term agreements that are entitled to be "zero rated" but the classification itself is almost impossible to meet.

Non-reviewable contract criterion:-
Span the GST appointed date
Are signed before 1 April 2013
Govern taxable supplies
Are entered into with another business

you can find the source here:-
http://www.customs.gov.my/en/pg/pg_sg/Tran...uly%202014).pdf


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