QUOTE(Banzai_san @ Feb 8 2007, 01:59 AM)
woah..... i rather get GT-8... ~ LYN Guitar Phreaks Club ~ V4!, Happy Chinese New Year 2007 ! Rock on !
~ LYN Guitar Phreaks Club ~ V4!, Happy Chinese New Year 2007 ! Rock on !
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Feb 8 2007, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(Banzai_san @ Feb 8 2007, 01:59 AM) woah..... i rather get GT-8... |
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Feb 8 2007, 08:57 PM
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u measure ur guitar neck and u might get the answer
yeah, u can feel the difference. its different when u play guitar with 24.75" and 25.5" neck, but u cant really see it nobody answers my question, y does 28,27 frets guitars are same length with 24 frets guitars? and y are some 24 frets guitars same length as the 22 frets guitar? is it the size of the frets? or the headstock? |
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Feb 8 2007, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE(skydancer @ Feb 8 2007, 08:57 PM) u measure ur guitar neck and u might get the answer read properly.yeah, u can feel the difference. its different when u play guitar with 24.75" and 25.5" neck, but u cant really see it nobody answers my question, y does 28,27 frets guitars are same length with 24 frets guitars? and y are some 24 frets guitars same length as the 22 frets guitar? is it the size of the frets? or the headstock? i already answered. they just push the neck pickup back. |
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Feb 8 2007, 09:05 PM
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if you compare a 24.75" neck with 22 frets and a 24.75" neck with 28 frets...
---I think---- the 22 first frets are identical in size (the spacing between them is identical). But the extra-frets are added, as an extension of the neck towards the body. It goes all above the place where the neck p-up shoud be. |
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Feb 8 2007, 09:07 PM
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Feb 8 2007, 09:09 PM
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everdying > agree with you... but actually, it means the neck is longer, while the neck length remains the same.
..or, wait a minute... isn't the neck length measured from fret 0 to fret 12 ?? |
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Feb 8 2007, 09:10 PM
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it will of cos affect the tone of the neck pickup, if you have one.
since it's getting closer to the bridge, it will sound brighter. thats why some guys prefer 21/22 frets for a more mellower neck pickup tone. pix is confusing the scale length stays the same. the fretboard, not neck, length increases. This post has been edited by Everdying: Feb 8 2007, 09:20 PM |
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Feb 8 2007, 10:04 PM
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yeah, a 28 fret would probably take out the neck pickup, having only the single pick up. thats the guitar i saw with 28 frets, a cool guitar
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Feb 8 2007, 10:16 PM
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Feb 8 2007, 10:18 PM
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with a 6 string guitar im already complaining for not being able to play so many notes because of my short fingers, what more say a 7 string with a bigger neck. lol
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Feb 8 2007, 11:45 PM
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yeah, 7 strings will have fatter necks, making it difficult to play. the 28 frets is making the 24th fret excessable easier, compare by having just 24 frets.
then again, i see 6 strings bass are so damn fat |
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Feb 8 2007, 11:48 PM
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i have short finger problem as well...especially my pinky
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Feb 8 2007, 11:55 PM
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my pinky cant be used for soloing..... jari mampus....
for tapping still okay. any guide to bring it alive? |
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Feb 9 2007, 12:08 AM
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my pinky is better than my middle finger... only that i would have difficulties reaching the top strings. very hard to play my fav megadeth riffs
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Feb 9 2007, 12:30 AM
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Feb 9 2007, 01:09 AM
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I'm practicing my sweeps, HARDLY any progress at all, by playing The Human Abstract's - Vela, Together We Await The Storm.
At the beginning it has a crazy sweep part, which requires you to stretch and do a 10p5 Lawl. I'm ded. |
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Feb 9 2007, 02:23 AM
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Feb 9 2007, 02:25 AM
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QUOTE(Pix @ Feb 8 2007, 09:05 PM) if you compare a 24.75" neck with 22 frets and a 24.75" neck with 28 frets... ---I think---- the 22 first frets are identical in size (the spacing between them is identical). But the extra-frets are added, as an extension of the neck towards the body. It goes all above the place where the neck p-up shoud be. Just to clarify... Its 24.74 inch scale length... not neck. ie Scale length = length from Nut to Saddle So for a 24.75" scale length, the frets distance apart are the exactly the same, be it a 21, 22, 24 or 28 frets. For different scale lengths, eg a 24.75" and a 25.5" scale length, frets distances would not be the same. The guitar with a smaller scale length (ie 24.75") would definitely have a smaller distances between frets compared to a 25.5" scale length guitar. Added on February 9, 2007, 2:48 am QUOTE(soulfly @ Feb 8 2007, 08:47 PM) Correction, scale length =/= fretboard length Scale Length = Length from Nut to Saddle Please refer to the guitar anatomy image --> http://www.guitarforbeginners.com/anatomy.html Added on February 9, 2007, 2:52 am QUOTE(asura_86 @ Feb 8 2007, 06:00 PM) how u guys tell the scale on the neck? no matter how i look at them, they all look the same to me... I cant guess the scale length of a guitar by looking, but you can definitely measure the length from the Nut to the Saddle to get the guitar's scale length. Added on February 9, 2007, 3:07 am QUOTE(skydancer @ Feb 8 2007, 08:57 PM) u measure ur guitar neck and u might get the answer yeah, u can feel the difference. its different when u play guitar with 24.75" and 25.5" neck, but u cant really see it nobody answers my question, y does 28,27 frets guitars are same length with 24 frets guitars? and y are some 24 frets guitars same length as the 22 frets guitar? is it the size of the frets? or the headstock? Dont get confused between Scale Length and Neck. Scale Length = Distance (length) from guitar NUT to SADDLE. Technically IIRC a NECK would consist of head (also called the headstock), neck and heel (part where the neck joints/attaches to the body). But generally speaking, when we mention NECK, normally we refer to the wood part where you put the fretboard on. (See picture below on headstock, (tusq) nut, (tusq) saddle and neck heel) ![]() On your question, "y does 28,27 frets guitars are same length with 24 frets guitars?"... It is because positioning the frets is according to the "rule of eighteen" (though it should really be known as the "rule of 17.835"). To find the position of 1st fret, divide the scale lenght by 17.835. eg 24.75 / 17.835 = 1.38772 inch <-- ie the distance from the nut to the 1st fret is 1.38772 To find the distance between 1st fret and 2nd fret, divide the remaining distance by 17.835... etc This procedure continues until the position of the final fret (top fret eg 22nd fret) is determined. But some compromises must be reached because of the rounding of fractions in our calculations. But thats another story So, since the scale length is the same, according to above calculation procedure, you'll get the same distance for each fret. Hence I believe that answers your qn. This post has been edited by Banzai_san: Feb 9 2007, 10:45 AM |
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Feb 9 2007, 03:47 AM
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 9 2007, 03:47 AM) I think he meant that at higher frets eg fret 19, 22, 24... MetalZone finds it difficult to reach the 5th or 6th string with his pinky. One way to get a comfortable pinky access of string 5th and 6th at higher frets is by positioning your guitar higher. (See picture below for guitar position.) Low Position: ![]() Medium Position: ![]() High Position: ![]() More info on guitar position when standing --> http://www.guitarprinciples.com/Guitar_Tec.../elec_stand.htm This post has been edited by Banzai_san: Feb 9 2007, 04:03 AM |
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