Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Bump Topic Topic Closed RSS Feed
125 Pages « < 76 77 78 79 80 > » Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 ~ LYN Guitar Phreaks Club ~ V4!, Happy Chinese New Year 2007 ! Rock on !

views
     
joeboto
post Feb 8 2007, 08:53 PM

insert title
*****
Senior Member
913 posts

Joined: Jun 2006


QUOTE(Banzai_san @ Feb 8 2007, 01:59 AM)
How's this for your next distortion padel upgrade...
http://www.bosscorp.co.jp/products/en/OD-20/

drool.gif  brows.gif
*
woah..... i rather get GT-8... brows.gif
skydancer
post Feb 8 2007, 08:57 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
308 posts

Joined: Oct 2006
From: Petaling Jaya


u measure ur guitar neck and u might get the answer tongue.gif
yeah, u can feel the difference. its different when u play guitar with 24.75" and 25.5" neck, but u cant really see it

nobody answers my question, y does 28,27 frets guitars are same length with 24 frets guitars? and y are some 24 frets guitars same length as the 22 frets guitar? is it the size of the frets? or the headstock? tongue.gif
Everdying
post Feb 8 2007, 09:02 PM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(skydancer @ Feb 8 2007, 08:57 PM)
u measure ur guitar neck and u might get the answer  tongue.gif
yeah, u can feel the difference. its different when u play guitar with 24.75" and 25.5" neck, but u cant  really see it

nobody answers my question, y does 28,27 frets guitars are same length with 24 frets guitars? and y are some 24 frets guitars same length as the 22 frets guitar? is it the size of the frets? or the headstock?  tongue.gif
*
read properly.
i already answered.
they just push the neck pickup back.
Pix
post Feb 8 2007, 09:05 PM

Tube Glower Phreak
Group Icon
VIP
2,918 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
From: Deliciously Pointless To: Jaw-Dropping Absurd


if you compare a 24.75" neck with 22 frets and a 24.75" neck with 28 frets...

---I think---- the 22 first frets are identical in size (the spacing between them is identical). But the extra-frets are added, as an extension of the neck towards the body. It goes all above the place where the neck p-up shoud be.
asura_86
post Feb 8 2007, 09:07 PM

**blank**
******
Senior Member
1,217 posts

Joined: Jan 2006
From: Kuching<-->KL/PJ


QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 8 2007, 09:02 PM)
read properly.
i already answered.
they just push the neck pickup back.
*
so does it affect the tone? as the pickup is being pushed back from where it's normally suppose to be...
Pix
post Feb 8 2007, 09:09 PM

Tube Glower Phreak
Group Icon
VIP
2,918 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
From: Deliciously Pointless To: Jaw-Dropping Absurd


everdying > agree with you... but actually, it means the neck is longer, while the neck length remains the same.

..or, wait a minute... isn't the neck length measured from fret 0 to fret 12 ??
Everdying
post Feb 8 2007, 09:10 PM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
it will of cos affect the tone of the neck pickup, if you have one.
since it's getting closer to the bridge, it will sound brighter.
thats why some guys prefer 21/22 frets for a more mellower neck pickup tone.

pix is confusing tongue.gif
the scale length stays the same.
the fretboard, not neck, length increases.


This post has been edited by Everdying: Feb 8 2007, 09:20 PM
skydancer
post Feb 8 2007, 10:04 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
308 posts

Joined: Oct 2006
From: Petaling Jaya


yeah, a 28 fret would probably take out the neck pickup, having only the single pick up. thats the guitar i saw with 28 frets, a cool guitar

user posted image
asura_86
post Feb 8 2007, 10:16 PM

**blank**
******
Senior Member
1,217 posts

Joined: Jan 2006
From: Kuching<-->KL/PJ


QUOTE(skydancer @ Feb 8 2007, 10:04 PM)
yeah, a 28 fret would probably take out the neck pickup, having only the single pick up. thats the guitar i saw with 28 frets, a cool guitar

*
hmm, won't a 7-string guitar provide more notes to play with instead of going all the way to 28 frets? hmm.gif
echobrainproject
post Feb 8 2007, 10:18 PM

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Moderator
4,765 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Kuala Lumpur


with a 6 string guitar im already complaining for not being able to play so many notes because of my short fingers, what more say a 7 string with a bigger neck. lol
skydancer
post Feb 8 2007, 11:45 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
308 posts

Joined: Oct 2006
From: Petaling Jaya


yeah, 7 strings will have fatter necks, making it difficult to play. the 28 frets is making the 24th fret excessable easier, compare by having just 24 frets.

then again, i see 6 strings bass are so damn fat
soulfly
post Feb 8 2007, 11:48 PM

revving towards 10,000 rpm
Group Icon
VIP
15,904 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Miri



i have short finger problem as well...especially my pinky cry.gif
joeboto
post Feb 8 2007, 11:55 PM

insert title
*****
Senior Member
913 posts

Joined: Jun 2006


my pinky cant be used for soloing..... jari mampus.... sad.gif
for tapping still okay.

any guide to bring it alive?
soulfly
post Feb 9 2007, 12:08 AM

revving towards 10,000 rpm
Group Icon
VIP
15,904 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Miri



my pinky is better than my middle finger... only that i would have difficulties reaching the top strings. very hard to play my fav megadeth riffs cry.gif
skydancer
post Feb 9 2007, 12:30 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
308 posts

Joined: Oct 2006
From: Petaling Jaya


QUOTE(joeboto @ Feb 8 2007, 11:55 PM)
my pinky cant be used for soloing..... jari mampus.... sad.gif
for tapping still okay.

any guide to bring it alive?
*
use a hammer and hit it hard, it'll get awake right away tongue.gif
headhunter7
post Feb 9 2007, 01:09 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,355 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
I'm practicing my sweeps, HARDLY any progress at all, by playing The Human Abstract's - Vela, Together We Await The Storm.

At the beginning it has a crazy sweep part, which requires you to stretch and do a 10p5 smile.gif .

Lawl. I'm ded.
MetalZone
post Feb 9 2007, 02:23 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,515 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Ipoh/KL


QUOTE(soulfly @ Feb 8 2007, 11:48 PM)
i have short finger problem as well...especially my pinky cry.gif
*
my pinky's really short too... very hard to reach the 6th string (maybe even 5th) at the higher frets. now i know i'm not the only one facing this problem...
Banzai_san
post Feb 9 2007, 02:25 AM

Samurai Spirit
******
Senior Member
1,185 posts

Joined: Mar 2006
From: KKinabalu


QUOTE(Pix @ Feb 8 2007, 09:05 PM)
if you compare a 24.75" neck with 22 frets and a 24.75" neck with 28 frets...

---I think---- the 22 first frets are identical in size (the spacing between them is identical). But the extra-frets are added, as an extension of the neck towards the body. It goes all above the place where the neck p-up shoud be.
*

Just to clarify...

Its 24.74 inch scale length... not neck. ie
Scale length = length from Nut to Saddle

So for a 24.75" scale length, the frets distance apart are the exactly the same, be it a 21, 22, 24 or 28 frets.

For different scale lengths, eg a 24.75" and a 25.5" scale length, frets distances would not be the same. The guitar with a smaller scale length (ie 24.75") would definitely have a smaller distances between frets compared to a 25.5" scale length guitar.


Added on February 9, 2007, 2:48 am
QUOTE(soulfly @ Feb 8 2007, 08:47 PM)
length of the fretboard
*

Correction,
scale length =/= fretboard length

Scale Length = Length from Nut to Saddle

Please refer to the guitar anatomy image --> http://www.guitarforbeginners.com/anatomy.html


Added on February 9, 2007, 2:52 am
QUOTE(asura_86 @ Feb 8 2007, 06:00 PM)
how u guys tell the scale on the neck? no matter how i look at them, they all look the same to me...
*

I cant guess the scale length of a guitar by looking, but you can definitely measure the length from the Nut to the Saddle to get the guitar's scale length.


Added on February 9, 2007, 3:07 am
QUOTE(skydancer @ Feb 8 2007, 08:57 PM)
u measure ur guitar neck and u might get the answer  tongue.gif
yeah, u can feel the difference. its different when u play guitar with 24.75" and 25.5" neck, but u cant  really see it

nobody answers my question, y does 28,27 frets guitars are same length with 24 frets guitars? and y are some 24 frets guitars same length as the 22 frets guitar? is it the size of the frets? or the headstock?  tongue.gif
*

Dont get confused between Scale Length and Neck.

Scale Length = Distance (length) from guitar NUT to SADDLE.

Technically IIRC a NECK would consist of head (also called the headstock), neck and heel (part where the neck joints/attaches to the body). But generally speaking, when we mention NECK, normally we refer to the wood part where you put the fretboard on. (See picture below on headstock, (tusq) nut, (tusq) saddle and neck heel)

user posted image

On your question, "y does 28,27 frets guitars are same length with 24 frets guitars?"...
It is because positioning the frets is according to the "rule of eighteen" (though it should really be known as the "rule of 17.835"). To find the position of 1st fret, divide the scale lenght by 17.835.

eg 24.75 / 17.835 = 1.38772 inch <-- ie the distance from the nut to the 1st fret is 1.38772

To find the distance between 1st fret and 2nd fret, divide the remaining distance by 17.835... etc

This procedure continues until the position of the final fret (top fret eg 22nd fret) is determined. But some compromises must be reached because of the rounding of fractions in our calculations. But thats another story smile.gif

So, since the scale length is the same, according to above calculation procedure, you'll get the same distance for each fret. Hence I believe that answers your qn.

This post has been edited by Banzai_san: Feb 9 2007, 10:45 AM
Everdying
post Feb 9 2007, 03:47 AM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(MetalZone @ Feb 9 2007, 02:23 AM)
my pinky's really short too... very hard to reach the 6th string (maybe even 5th) at the higher frets. now i know i'm not the only one facing this problem...
*
dont get what you mean.
unless you're fretting it wrongly somewhere.
Banzai_san
post Feb 9 2007, 03:57 AM

Samurai Spirit
******
Senior Member
1,185 posts

Joined: Mar 2006
From: KKinabalu


QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 9 2007, 03:47 AM)
dont get what you mean.
unless you're fretting it wrongly somewhere.
*

I think he meant that at higher frets eg fret 19, 22, 24... MetalZone finds it difficult to reach the 5th or 6th string with his pinky.

One way to get a comfortable pinky access of string 5th and 6th at higher frets is by positioning your guitar higher. (See picture below for guitar position.)

Low Position:

user posted image

Medium Position:

user posted image

High Position:

user posted image

More info on guitar position when standing --> http://www.guitarprinciples.com/Guitar_Tec.../elec_stand.htm

This post has been edited by Banzai_san: Feb 9 2007, 04:03 AM

125 Pages « < 76 77 78 79 80 > » Top
Topic ClosedOptions
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0269sec    1.61    6 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 25th December 2025 - 12:03 AM