Fundsupermart.com v11, Grexit or not, Europe will sail on...
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 Jul 3 2015, 03:41 PM
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Note for newbies: China, although Shanghai index down 25+/-% from highest 12 mths' closing, it is still 80%+ up from 12 mths ago
Thus pls don't go banzai / all-in and then get mowed down yar (then blame the stupid monkey sharing statistics pulak) |
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Jul 3 2015, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 3 2015, 03:46 PM) Eh unker farnee... they killed my JPG on that..your "basics of mani management" on your blog hilang jor?  urgh.. - anyhow i've digital copies on my backup. Y ar? U need meh?  |
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Jul 3 2015, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 3 2015, 03:49 PM) reminder ma This?itu...akin to words of Awww-Lahhh yo  
dont lar, no comparison & no wan lighterning to strike moi still want more loving before i go... BTW, most ppl not willing to build up bit-by-bit leh and when they see that 12 months' emergency buffer, they balk.. not thinking they can build 3 months first, then split to investments then come back build additional 3 months, then.. then come back build additional 3 months, then.. then come back build additional 3 months, then totally focus on attack until very lopsided This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Jul 3 2015, 03:55 PM |
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Jul 3 2015, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jul 3 2015, 03:54 PM) Are you talking to me? Not the sharer, the "blamers" anyhow, even Google search pointed gorillas on some humans, thus can't blame the blamers..  |
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Jul 3 2015, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 3 2015, 03:56 PM) yerrr...siap with name imprinted lagi as long as U don't count that amount as your investment portfolio laI started with 18 months emergency buffer  Now down to 6 months only...but with some dry ammo in CMF...that considered buffer? reason: when all hell breaks loose, U can all-in if U want with cash equivalents from your investment portfolio WITHOUT worrying if kaka happens, must sell investments at lost or not, to cover kaka |
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Jul 3 2015, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 3 2015, 04:05 PM) http://www.marketwatch.com/story/tsipras-b...07-02-191035740 Like lopsided love affair... Greek PM...I semakin like him  He knows that EU will try hard to keep Greece in Euro Worse comes to worst, he just have to take whatever EU offers Greece Board the flight to  |
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Jul 3 2015, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(adele123 @ Jul 3 2015, 05:07 PM) i'm curious about the other 50% 50% necessities. No.. not that Gucci handbag, nor those neon alligator shoes.. NECESSITIES.. those are "Feel good" or "Savings for Specific Spending" coz it cost a bomb The game is to reduce that 50% for NECESSITIES, thus reaching Financial Freedom faster  and increase the rest, especially Investments & Feel Good - must balance mar, else become crazed over building investments only. Note 1. personally, charity i lumped in "Feel Good", not "Necessities" (unlike for some) coz i do feel good when i help out. 2. easier version = spend 70%, save 30% (15% buffer, 15 investments) but.. i'm anal, need to be very specific in order to focus This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Jul 3 2015, 06:09 PM |
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Jul 6 2015, 06:26 PM
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Still no fun yet.. 6%+ to 8%+/- down from 12 months' peak only.. pfh..
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Jul 7 2015, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE(David83 @ Jul 7 2015, 07:37 PM) If you have bullets or ammo, use this golden period for accumulation! Napalms only coming online Aug/Sep  FALL dagnabit, FALL! MORE! |
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Jul 7 2015, 08:27 PM
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QUOTE(David83 @ Jul 7 2015, 08:15 PM) What is napalms? What is dagnabit? er.. way more "advanced" than middle earth tolkienish lehYour language comes from Middle Earth?  Napalm is flammable liquid used in warfare. It is a mixture of a gelling agent and petroleum or a similar fuel. It was initially used as an incendiary device against buildings and later primarily as an anti-personnel weapon, as it sticks to skin and causes severe burns when on fire. Think severe ammo dagnabit.. er.. general audience mar, cannot curse in properly, use Alternative spelling of dagnabbit A slang contraction; a bowdlerization of profane "God d*mn it." EDIT: bwhahaha - Nexona88 beat me to it This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Jul 7 2015, 08:46 PM |
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Jul 9 2015, 10:15 AM
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Personally, i'll start nibbling on China stuff again after Shanghai Index goes another >=25%+/- down, making a total of 56%+ down from it's 52 weeks' highest closing.
Come on baby - FEAR! |
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Jul 9 2015, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 9 2015, 11:03 AM) OT a bit AA? AirAsia tasty now?  sorry ar, not in my radar to invest (due to biz sector & long term historic company biz) nor for my small pasar malam trading biz |
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Jul 10 2015, 12:40 PM
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jul 10 2015, 11:19 AM) For those with some technical knowledge may it this steady your nerves. For those without, just read it with an open mind. >69% chance better lar, 1 SD My China exposure has moved to -1.24 z score. This means that there will be more than 68% chance that it will bounce back to the mean. What this means? Top up lar! Xuzen |
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Jul 10 2015, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jul 10 2015, 01:37 PM) It is has gone above -1 SD liao... reversion to mean is highly likely. Yar though keep in mind it went +2 to 3 SD up since er.. a year+/- backThink of the mean or average as an imaginary elastic line. When you pull it too either side, it will want to go back to its original shape. The further you pull it from its resting line (aka the mean value) the more it wants to go back to the mean. So in financial modelling, we use Standard Deviation as a marker from how far it has moved from the mean. Right now, the China fund has breached -1 SD and based on statistical modelling, it wants to revert to the mean (in technical term this is called regression to the mean). In financial modelling stats; -1 SD... it has a probability of 66.67% to move towards the mean. If it has gone to -2 SD.. then the probability becomes 95.00%. At - 3 SD... the probability becomes 99.99%. -3SD is the max liao. There is no -3.01 SD or whatever. However do note that in Black Swan Event all calculations are off as are all the modelling will be null and void. Xuzen thus this -1D(a bit more) is no biggie gua ie the stretching of the rubber band UP, snapped back down a bit only comparatively (to its crazy up stretch) thus, still havent reverted to mean yet (the fall) thus, probability of it snapping back up after a fall of -1SD(++) is not as per norm thus, ie dont all in / sai lang yet but may be peck a bit a bit Just being the devil's advocate here to see 2 sides of the coin yar This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Jul 10 2015, 02:19 PM |
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Jul 14 2015, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jul 14 2015, 03:19 PM) I was dumbfounded, freezed and did nothing..... doing nothing IS a choice of doing something Now, Portfolio XIRR almost climbed back to End June level sit on hands is sometimes best move |
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Jul 14 2015, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 14 2015, 04:05 PM) I prefer to have someone else sitting on me politically correct response:Well, it depends.. Whether one prefers to be the actioneer or actioneee and/or Whether one has the resources & stamina to keep at it and/or etc. etc. er.. talking about $, time, interest in keeping tabs on the investments to act on it or just let the market act on existing held investments yar |
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Jul 14 2015, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jul 14 2015, 04:17 PM) sometimes, for some markets....the drops takes longer to goes up....if top up, top up, top up...until pocket kosong it still not yet reach bottom worse i think was ASEAN flu time 2007-2008ex...Shanghai index peak 1 Oct 2007, bottomed at Oct 2008 Nasdaq (Dot com) index peaked Mar 2000, bottomed at Oct 2002 Nikkei index peaked in 1990, bottomed in 2003 2007 down like nuts, then climb back up slightly... then 2008 wham! KLCI 200+ points left only Top up lar... daily/monthly lar.. unless unlimited funds..  personally, i'd do only once in 6 mths heard of asset allocation diversification but have U heard of time diversification? no right/wrong - just thinking & sharing |
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Jul 26 2015, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Jul 26 2015, 03:22 PM) Gold status not enough, need platinum for 1.25% SC. Personally, i think the Platinum thinggy is useless.I mean, if i have 750K to invest at "one place", U'd think i'd be better informed and have ways to do ETFs right? ETFs with lower upfront cost and yearly costs. IF FSM wants to encourage people to really go for Platinum, do lar 0.5% or even 1% entry cost / service charge (average now 2%) AND 0.88% yearly costs (average now being 1.75%+/-) That's a simple half of the current average costs. Until then, i'm still plonking mostly into ETFs these days, just shuffling around my holdings in FSM & perhaps EPF investments since can't do direct stocks liao since May/June. Just a thought |
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Jul 28 2015, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Jul 28 2015, 10:12 AM) China market entering into a free fall mode. Siapa berani masuk sekarang? Blood is on the street. Blood is not yet on the street IMHOMy current Greater China portfolio:- (1) China 26.71% (2) Hong Kong 8.51% (3) Taiwan 5.68% Total : 40.9% http://markets.on.nytimes.com/research/mar...orldmarkets.asp Click on the Asia/Pacific tab & take a peek at Shanghai Stock Exchange's 52 weeks' hi/lo Keep in mind how crazy it ran up in a year or less. |
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Aug 6 2015, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Aug 6 2015, 02:39 PM) Wah Lau eh? market down, everyone quiet as a mouse coz busy placing their chips/purchases mar.Market down ... everyone quiet as a mouse. When market up... suddenly an influx of posting asking what fund to go in! UT 101: chasing market is a recipe for disaster. Now, market down is the best time to enter and strategize! I.e., like playing chess, now is the best time to place your chess piece, don't only move when you are being checked. Xuzen when market up, nothing to buy/do, blow water la |
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