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> how to cheat ppl in LYN or online trading, all feedback are wellcome

edison92133
post Nov 6 2006, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Nov 6 2006, 02:28 PM)
coul you pls name tat guy so tat at least we wont fall into his trap again
and hopefully he will come forward to giv us an explantion
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his name is: finalsky

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digilife
post Nov 6 2006, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(edison92133 @ Nov 6 2006, 03:02 PM)
his name is: finalsky

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okie thanks bro
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guys and TE/MODS pls take note of this finalsky
potential con-man

hopefully he will come out to giv us an explanation
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post Nov 6 2006, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Nov 6 2006, 03:02 PM)
pls elaborate.............. drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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Copied from dispute centre :

Step 1)
Negotiation done between fake seller and 3rd party seller
3rd party seller <-------------------------------------> Fake Seller

Step 2)
Fake seller ask you to bank in to 3rd party seller.
You as the buyer bank in to 3rd party seller, but expecting goods from fake seller.
3rd party seller <--------------------------------------> YOU

Step 3)
3rd party seller send goods to fake seller

Step 4)
YOU eat wind

And 3rd party seller don't know your existance.

More info HERE
wongzai
post Nov 6 2006, 03:33 PM

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seems like new style of scam --> 3rd party scam coming out rclxms.gif .....it seems like hard to detect for that, coz as long as buyer pay then seller sell it and that's all.... yawn.gif
seller oso need to be extreme careful la tis day..., terrible scam world. mad.gif vmad.gif
bee1927
post Nov 6 2006, 04:01 PM

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aiyo .. why must cheat here cheat there .. just do the business ..collect the money and pass the goods and receive the goods . and say thank u ..and say bye bye ..

does not tis seems to be nicer in this IT world .. hehheeh ..
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post Nov 6 2006, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(suiteng @ Nov 6 2006, 03:22 PM)
Copied from dispute centre :

Step 1)
Negotiation done between fake seller and 3rd party seller
3rd party seller <-------------------------------------> Fake Seller

Step 2)
Fake seller ask you to bank in to 3rd party seller.
You as the buyer bank in to 3rd party seller, but expecting goods from fake seller.
3rd party seller <--------------------------------------> YOU

Step 3)
3rd party seller send goods to fake seller

Step 4)
YOU eat wind

And 3rd party seller don't know your existance.

More info HERE
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To avoid this type of scenario, the only solution is COD face to face sweat.gif

digilife
post Nov 7 2006, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(suiteng @ Nov 6 2006, 03:22 PM)
Copied from dispute centre :

Step 1)
Negotiation done between fake seller and 3rd party seller
3rd party seller <-------------------------------------> Fake Seller

Step 2)
Fake seller ask you to bank in to 3rd party seller.
You as the buyer bank in to 3rd party seller, but expecting goods from fake seller.
3rd party seller <--------------------------------------> YOU

Step 3)
3rd party seller send goods to fake seller

Step 4)
YOU eat wind

And 3rd party seller don't know your existance.

More info HERE
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this is similiar to wat finalsky is doing doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
howeijie
post Nov 7 2006, 01:08 AM

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Cheat money here cannot become rich person.


lalachong
post Nov 7 2006, 11:44 AM

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suggestion....

maybe those with bulk order/ or cash first basis must registered with lyn their bank accounts nos and ic nos... these will be displayed in a locked signature or something so that everyone can view it and is transparent... then only they can trade... else... is COD...

as for postage faulty items frauds... can't do anything... just trust with the seller and buyer....




stsh90
post Nov 7 2006, 12:25 PM

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How to cheat ppl on LYN?
wow thread starter mmg creative tongue.gif

well, imo, as a newbie, it's no ez to cheat on LYN (for expensive stuff like LCD monitor, conroe processor). COD only can success. usually I think the best initial step is to gain other forumers' trust, (if wanna catch big fish). After some successful trades (sold), maybe can start project liao lo.. Like maybe processor.. or something expensive. coz forumers sure won't trust newbies easily since there are already so many newbies con cases happened here..

another one is quite common, that's to blame the postman.
when it comes to such situation, it's hard to say who's the conman: postman? or the seller? and thus, "trust" is very important... if don't trust seller, then better don't trade with him/her to prevent getting cheated.

to prevent getting conned, of course the best way is to COD lo.. but for edison's case.. 1st time I heard such case.. and that buyer (finalsky) is really a smart arse. lol. I agree with howeijie, cheat ppl here (or anywhere else) wont fatt tat one. conners will only end up being hunted by those who got conned.
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post Nov 7 2006, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(stsh90 @ Nov 7 2006, 12:25 PM)

How to cheat ppl on LYN?
wow thread starter mmg creative tongue.gif

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uncle limkokwing was my teacher b4 la sweat.gif
aztechx
post Nov 7 2006, 02:35 PM

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gulp...i just did my transaction for a jersey in one of the bulk order threads... blink.gif
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post Nov 7 2006, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(aztechx @ Nov 7 2006, 02:35 PM)
gulp...i just did my transaction for a jersey in one of the bulk order threads...  blink.gif
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so you din cheated rite.............
wat are you trying to tell here???? rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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post Nov 7 2006, 07:13 PM

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even i cod will also get cheat.
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post Nov 7 2006, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 5 2006, 09:39 PM)
multiple accounts make the cheat easier

however, we mods have your ip add everytime anyone make a post - just to compare and detect multiple accounts
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i've got a question.. if me and my bro using diff accounts but same IP is it legal or illegal? coz me and my bro using diff accounts on diff users but on the same comp..


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post Nov 8 2006, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(edison92133 @ Nov 6 2006, 03:02 PM)
his name is: finalsky

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hm, i've been semi-tracking this nick -finalsky. suspected linked to bookie-3rd party scammer grp

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...dpost&p=8250872

i guess my suspicions confirmed liao. edison92133, please becareful & do more verifications of your online buyers. all the best.
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post Nov 8 2006, 12:44 AM

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i also want to add my 2c on this thread.

reminder: all genuine & honest traders, always remember a successful conman/fraudster/scammer will always be smarter/more cunning than u. don't take anything at face value. practice risk-assessment b4 all kinds of trade.



This post has been edited by acougan: Nov 8 2006, 12:49 AM
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post Nov 8 2006, 12:47 AM

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Luckily my 1st purchase from a lyn member was trough COD...anyway can we report online fraud/scam cases to the police? Is it effective?
edison92133
post Nov 8 2006, 03:28 AM

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QUOTE(unamed @ Nov 8 2006, 12:47 AM)
Luckily my 1st purchase from a lyn member was trough COD...anyway can we report online fraud/scam cases to the police?  Is it effective?
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i think it depends on how you bring the case to the police.....


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post Nov 8 2006, 04:16 AM

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QUOTE(acougan @ Nov 8 2006, 12:40 AM)
hm, i've been semi-tracking this nick -finalsky. suspected linked to bookie-3rd party scammer grp

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...dpost&p=8250872

i guess my suspicions confirmed liao. edison92133, please becareful & do more verifications of your online buyers. all the best.
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thanks bro............
this is good "food for thought"
hope more ppl can come forward to provide info on suspected connie
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