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> how to cheat ppl in LYN or online trading, all feedback are wellcome

digilife
post Nov 5 2006, 09:30 PM, updated 20y ago

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haha........this seems to be a very interesting subject............ tongue.gif
b4 any mod delete this thread THINK further................. sweat.gif

the purpose of this thread is to let you guys hav an insight of the modus operandi of conman here and post your views so tat by doing so you ppl will take the necessary precautions when doing trade online...............

maybe the title sounds a bit outrageous but i hope tat it work for the benefit of traders here, especially newbies............

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post Nov 5 2006, 09:39 PM

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multiple accounts make the cheat easier

however, we mods have your ip add everytime anyone make a post - just to compare and detect multiple accounts
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post Nov 5 2006, 09:51 PM

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what about bank accounts?

Any scamming attempt means you have to give out your name and bank account number right? Isnt this another way to "expose" your identity?


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post Nov 5 2006, 09:53 PM

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to cheat LYN quite hard......... to cheat newbies more easy...... coz LYN is very smart....
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post Nov 5 2006, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 5 2006, 09:39 PM)
multiple accounts make the cheat easier

however, we mods have your ip add everytime anyone make a post - just to compare and detect multiple accounts
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bro, kawasaki kips use starbucks wifi to do posting, how can you track his posting?

QUOTE(stormrider @ Nov 5 2006, 09:53 PM)
to cheat LYN quite hard......... to cheat newbies more easy...... coz LYN is very smart....
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dude .......LYN = low yat net............juz a forum ...........its not as smart as you think cause got plenty of grey areas and loopholes...............
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post Nov 5 2006, 10:09 PM

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ip can be change easily...
digilife
post Nov 5 2006, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(toch3 @ Nov 5 2006, 10:09 PM)
ip can be change easily...
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yes mod cannot do much if a connie wans to strike............meaning the connie will knoe how to bypass this ip thingy............
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post Nov 5 2006, 10:42 PM

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want to scam people easy only - just put goods at lower than market price. say is bulk order, guarantee you out of 67,560 registered users surely got a bunch of idiots wan. damn-greedy-no-common-sense-bank-in-full-amount type la.

so you kena just 1 fella out of 67,560 with an item of RM xxx is already enough.
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post Nov 5 2006, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Nov 5 2006, 10:04 PM)
bro, kawasaki kips use starbucks wifi to do posting, how can you track his posting?
dude .......LYN = low yat net............juz a forum ...........its not as smart as you think cause got plenty of grey areas and loopholes...............
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Hmmm.. have LYN volunteers on shift at each starbucks, each one carrying a baseball bat with nails hammered in? tongue.gif
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post Nov 5 2006, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 5 2006, 10:42 PM)
want to scam people easy only - just put goods at lower than market price. say is bulk order, guarantee you out of 67,560 registered users surely got a bunch of idiots wan. damn-greedy-no-common-sense-bank-in-full-amount type la.

so you kena just 1 fella out of 67,560 with an item of RM xxx is already enough.
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yes this is one of the best way
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QUOTE(fyire @ Nov 5 2006, 10:46 PM)
Hmmm.. have LYN volunteers on shift at each starbucks, each one carrying a baseball bat with nails hammered in? tongue.gif
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do you knoe how kips look like???
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post Nov 5 2006, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Nov 5 2006, 10:51 PM)
yes this is one of the best way
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do you knoe how kips look like???
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is this him on the first post?

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=267131
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post Nov 6 2006, 12:11 AM

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If they use the proxy server of Class A network IP.

Then how to check it out ?
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post Nov 6 2006, 12:39 AM

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some of us just have the sense of scammer detection... we can smell scams.
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post Nov 6 2006, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(howeijie @ Nov 6 2006, 12:11 AM)
If they use the proxy server of Class A network IP.

Then how to check it out ?
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ask mr MODERATOR.............
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post Nov 6 2006, 11:46 AM

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seller can get cheated also

last month or something like that, i sold some toys to a familiar customer for RM520, he bank in the money through Maybank, then later that night i meet him and gave him his purchases, everything seems fine and ok (he is a lyn member)

then after a few days, Maybank Penang HQ called me and asked me that i sell IPOD through the Internet ? i say no and ask why, the bank officer told me that a foreigner went to the bank and complaint that someone has asked him to bank in RM520 to my account for a IPOD Nano 2GB !!!

then many question pop-up:
1- the foreigner lost his brain or what, an Ipod Nano 2GB cost RM520 ???
2- my customer went to con the foreigner then ask the foreigner to bank in money to my account ?
3- or the foreigner simply make up a story to earn some money ?

that time i also duno what to do, so i tell the bank officer, you go report police, do whatever you want, then i called my mom lawyer, the lawyer told me no need to be scare, the bank has nothing ! if the bank has any type of evidence to prove that i con, they already report police and catch me while i should go report police about my customer

from that day onwards, i cant find that particular customer, i think he change his phone number, i pm him many time, no reply at all, but i still can see him online sometime at lyn

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post Nov 6 2006, 12:00 PM

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1) Sell bad stuff as good stuff
2) Only Poslaju no COD
3) After buyer received the stuff and find out it's BAD, blame Poslaju for damaging the stuff, and void the warranty due to postman's fault
4) In case buyer crying, just refund 50% of the money and you still earn another 50%


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post Nov 6 2006, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(edison92133 @ Nov 6 2006, 11:46 AM)
seller can get cheated also

last month or something like that, i sold some toys to a familiar customer for RM520, he bank in the money through Maybank, then later that night i meet him and gave him his purchases, everything seems fine and ok (he is a lyn member)

then after a few days, Maybank Penang HQ called me and asked me that i sell IPOD through the Internet ? i say no and ask why, the bank officer told me that a foreigner went to the bank and complaint that someone has asked him to bank in RM520 to my account for a IPOD Nano 2GB !!! 

then many question pop-up:
1- the foreigner lost his brain or what, an Ipod Nano 2GB cost RM520 ???
2- my customer went to con the foreigner then ask the foreigner to bank in money to my account ?
3- or the foreigner simply make up a story to earn some money ?

that time i also duno what to do, so i tell the bank officer, you go report police, do whatever you want, then i called my mom lawyer, the lawyer told me no need to be scare, the bank has nothing ! if the bank has any type of evidence to prove that i con, they already report police and catch me while i should go report police about my customer

from that day onwards, i cant find that particular customer, i think he change his phone number, i pm him many time, no reply at all, but i still can see him online sometime at lyn

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YES
this is the "always heard of" modus operandi of on9 fraud
you question no2 (highlighted) is the mosst probable one

could you pls name tat guy so tat at least we wont fall into his trap again
and hopefully he will come forward to giv us an explantion

thanks
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This post has been edited by digilife: Nov 6 2006, 02:29 PM
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post Nov 6 2006, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(swaichia @ Nov 6 2006, 12:00 PM)


3) After buyer received the stuff and find out it's BAD, blame Poslaju for damaging the stuff, and void the warranty due to postman's fault
actually the conman only send an empty box and blame the courrier service ppl tat they stole the contents inside

tats why next time when you go to the courrier office to collect the parcel (yes dun let them deliver to your hse, call them in advance and tell the courrier office tat you will come to the office to self collect by giving them the tracking number)....OPEN the parcel in front of the courrier ppl and bring along a camera to snap the pic if you discover fraud.
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post Nov 6 2006, 02:58 PM

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What about 3rd party scam?
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post Nov 6 2006, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(suiteng @ Nov 6 2006, 02:58 PM)
What about 3rd party scam?
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