True bro

as much as i admired bandai and their recent success with the 1/72 Alto custom VF-25S, i couldnt bring myself to buy or press the pre-order button. Judging from the DX 1/60 prototype pictures, it seems that the 1/72 kit is much superior in terms of looks; but still i wouldnt get the kit..

Gundam i can accept, but for Macross, no kits for me simply because i'm no detailing expert, wouldnt want to ruin the valkyries if i had to detail them myself, haha.

btw, seems like Bandai also has a Vajra kit in production; that'll be awesome!

BTW: to anyone who have both the 1/60 VF-0S and the new VF-1S: does the VF-0S feels VERY loose/fragile to you compared to the VF-1S? i dont mean the joints, i meant the overall sturdiness of its parts (specifically the backpack in battroid mode). been wondering about that since i bought one. The forums out there mostly focus on the loose shoulder joints (mine are ok), but not on overall sturdiness.

This post has been edited by evanrue: Oct 2 2008, 01:18 PM

Actually, i think the VF-0S is the loosiest of Yamato's 1/60 valks.. but both the YF-19 and especially the new 1/60 VF-1S, are truly sturdy birds it is sad that Yamato has finally shown their peak in valkyrie engineering just when they lose the license for Macross Frontier

bro William, how's the SV-51 btw? it looks fragile from the pics; but are they good in your opinion?

Thanks for the input yupe, ive seen CollectionDX's review unit with the floppy wing. Also surprised to note that the Nora version is cheaper than the Ivanov and the Mass Production alphas could it because its the Nora version that has the problem, and that there is no reissue for it? i would have thought Nora's SV-51 would be the more expensive one, since it has the best colour and very recognizable

hehe, i hope it get reduced even more am planning of getting one in December

AFAIK, Macross transformable valkyries has been produced by about 3 companies:

1. Takatoku/Bandai 1/55 , 1/72 scale: chunky and durable, but essentially a kid's toy and looks 'fat'. (die cast)

2. Toynami's 1/55 Masterpiece Collection: very much like the Bandai 1/55, maybe more streamlined but only the box deserve the Masterpiece label, IMHO in other words, dont ever get this line!

3. Yamato:
3.1) ver 1 1/60: non-perfect transformation, requires part-swapping. (some parts die-cast, the legs)
3.2) 1/48: perfect-transformation, but kinda big for a toy. started with the 1/48 VF-1S (only the legs swing bar is die cast)
3.3) ver 2 1/60: perfect transformation; started with the 1/60 YF-19 (Dec 2006), the VF-0x, the SV-51x, the YF-21.. till the latest of the VF-1x.. (only the legs swing bar is die cast)

IMO, Yamato's 1/60 ver 2 is the sturdiest and best of them all not sure about Bandai 1/60 take on the Macross Frontier's VF-25 though

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Added on October 2, 2008, 8:50 pmhehe, but Nora's kinda MANLY dont you think haha.. her SV-51 actually look more menacing than the subtle khaki and black SV-51s

This post has been edited by evanrue: Oct 2 2008, 08:50 PM

Seriously NICE bro now kinda regret didnt get the 1/72 kit... i like gun-plaing too and the VF-25F looks fun to build

From what we've seen of the 1/60 prototype pictures, it seems that the 1/72 snap kit does indeed look more streamlined and better the 1/60, at least from the prototypes, looks good in both gerwalk and battroid modes, but when it comes to fighter mode, i think the 1/72 wins hands down.

problems from the 1/60 prototype:
01. The front landing gear too short (and kinda stubby)
02. the nose of the fighter is drooping down (makes the VF-25 look kinda 'unstimulated', hehe)


03. also, check out the GLARING gaps between the legs and the shield here in the fighter mode either the proto is mistransformed, or the gap is REALLY there.... the 1/72 kit has better streamlined fit.


04. Also, there is no mention of articulated fingers (are there any?).. for the pricepoint, Bandai had better make the 1/60 on par or better than Yamato's previous valks.

I'm still hopeful for Bandai though besides, we havent seen new leaked pics. Could be Bandai making a major retooling of the mold, and keeping us in suspense. haha.

Those are AWESOME! wish i could get them, but im a sucker for those Super parts, and these kits doesnt seem to be made with Super parts attachment in mind... also, detachable landing gears kinda turn me off, haha.

hmm, i REALLY hope Bandai is not Gundam-ising the Frontier toys its like they are cashing in on the kits rather than the 1/60 chogokin (which we barely hear whispers of recently, hmm)

ohya, forgot abt the YF-21 reviews of it all agree on how magnificent that toy is wish i could get one, but price wayyy too expensive anybody willing to sell theirs? BIB? hehe

Makes me want it more. hmm, about the fast pack, there's this video on youtube, check it out bro!


This post has been edited by evanrue: Oct 6 2008, 07:43 PM

Partly because of funding for Macross toys. But im quitting TF except for the Masterpiece series; those i will never sell

Come to think of it, when TF2 movie comes out, there'll be a bunch of new TF toys, including of returning character. So the collecting value is not really there, hehe.

I'm really drooling for the YF-21. Only Yamato 1/60 perfect transformation molds i dont have are the YF-21 and the SV-51..

haha, what to do? Macross stuff are expensive, but sure are BEAUTIFUL compared to TFs. My interest in TFs are just the Masterpieces and Beast Wars, which i still keep

william7: bro, thats the weathering special! must have cost a BOMB!

That is SO true bro Yamato's fighters are so sleek and BEAUTIFUL even Takara's MP Starcream mold doesnt come close to the perfection of the 1/60 Yamato Valks..

bro W7: weathering action pics! pics! pics!

hehe, yalor... bro undici, if u r thinking of selling it anytime, u know who to pm

Goodness, the YF-21 is pure TOXIN

Mixed feelings about Bandai DX 1/60 those who have been collecting Macross collectibles from Yamato would be fairly disappointed i suppose. Bandai is no foreigner when it comes to Macross, but it should at least have known that Yamato made such a BIG impact on the Macross collecting scene with their beautiful, almost line-art accurate perfect transformation valkyries. I doubt there remain any Yamato-pampered collectors (such as yours truly) that would want to have a chunky Macross toy, considering that Bandai did an awesome and more line-art accurate job on the 1/72 kit..

Here's hoping Bandai would retool the DX VF-25; check out the legs and tell me that it is better than the 1/72's (compared to the slender and curvaceous legs of the 1.72, the DX's legs are slightly blocky and abrupt)..

Again, hopefully Bandai is not purposely doing this to "Gundamize" the Macross series no offense to Gundam fans (I love Gunpla-ing, i just dont think Bandai should forego the major Macross toy selling point that Yamato established, which is highly accurate collectible).. it's like Hasbro/Takara making snap kits of their Transformers Masterpiece series instead of the highly detailed collectibles that we know)

just my 23 cents

update: check this rough comparison pic: from the right, the 1/72 kit, the line-art, the 1/60 DX.. note especially the crotch section and the ankle skirt of the legs. i know im nitpicking, but Yamato pampered me too much


This post has been edited by evanrue: Oct 7 2008, 08:15 PM

revenge.. could be bro

ajis: yeah, the signature gerwalk mode has always belong to the VF-1, i suppose simply due to the fact that all other valkyries after that (including the VF-0) are designed to transform to Gerwalk mode in the same way

That actually looks pretty COOL

ya, the YF-19 non-locking battroid chest is kinda big flaw for me, but i Love mine to bits! simply because it has the coolest looking battroid mode, almost samurai like with those hip wings. Plus: Isamu Dyson is just one cool dude

aiyo, i REALLY must get the YF-21! my YF-19 is lonely and flanked by the retired VF-0S and VF-1S

My YF-19 is the first issue one, without the Fold Booster (that comes with the shoulders and legs' Fast packs). But the fast packs itself doesnt really add much difference to the appearance of the YF-19, unless u attach the humongous Fold Booster. Plus, the Fold Booster can't be attached to the Battroid mode, unlike VF-0S Ghost Booster.

to add to the info by mih0shinj0: if im not mistaken, Isamu and Yang "stole" the YF-19 with the Fast packs and Fold Booster to travel from Eden to Earth to destroy the Ghost V9. Once there, the Fold Booster was ejected and the Fast packs which contain missiles were used to attack Guld's YF-21, and later, the Ghost drone. Starting from the end of OVA 3 and continues to OVA 4

Yea Finally got my 6 Kotobukiya MSG Mechanical Bases (from HLJ and eBay).. sorry, blurry photos







even with 6 bases, not enough for 3 1/60 Battroids i would have to get at least 4 more to accommodate my incoming YF-21

Haha, true bro! for their fighter modes, i think three 1/60 valkyries would need at least 10 chain bases (2x5 wall, 2x5 base).. that would be roughly 4 chain bases set for just 1 fighter!

Of all the valks, the VF-0S is the loosest (not counting YF-19 non-locking chest), but surprisingly the most fun to pose VF-0 really looks Macho!

they look good for ANY models apparently made for 1/144 scale toys/kits since the accessories that come with the bases are scaled to that (like the claws, missiles trolleys, etc, not shown in my pics)