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 Traders Kopitiam! V8

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post Nov 3 2015, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Nov 3 2015, 01:06 PM)
x sempat cocok  sad.gif

waiting 3.00 long long liaos.
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post Nov 3 2015, 01:23 PM

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post Nov 3 2015, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Nov 3 2015, 09:54 AM)
Wow Hibiscs falling like a boss since our previous discussion.
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What's the lesson to be learned from this?


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they say hibiscs kena suspen liao

so if kena suspen what will happen next?

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post Nov 3 2015, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 3 2015, 03:04 PM)
What's the lesson to be learned from this?
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1. Learn how to paper trade then study why stock go up n down.

2. Don't always buy cheap stocks that are downtrending as it can go lower and lower.

I remember the last time we were talking about Hibiscs it was around 68c. Lowest today was 25.5c. That's a 62.5% capital wiped out in just one month! shakehead.gif shocking.gif
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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Nov 3 2015, 03:41 PM)
1. Learn how to paper trade then study why stock go up n down.

2. Don't always buy cheap stocks that are downtrending as it can go lower and lower.

I remember the last time we were talking about Hibiscs it was around 68c. Lowest today was 25.5c. That's a 62.5% capital wiped out in just one month!  shakehead.gif  shocking.gif
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post #1459

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and oh...

the goreng side.... LOL!

as correctly stated TC_Titan earlier, there is major placement coming up.

It's there... and we know from reading... laugh.gif

it's a 25% placement...

massive....

hence it's understandable, why some can be seduced and reckon that a goreng play might be ON in the near future....

it's normal...

it's one of the theme that some traders use.....

will it be profitable?
my say?
This is not my cuppa....  wink.gif


This would be a good example to be filed under 'trading stocks because expectations the stock will be fried due to massive placement plans'.

Traders do take positions in a stock once they hear about big placement deals.

They love it. wink.gif

In the world of the stock market, agreements are usually made so that the placement takers benefit from taking up placement shares....
So traders buy, trying to gain a position in the stock by buying in early......

well... what are we seeing now?


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post Nov 3 2015, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Nov 3 2015, 03:41 PM)
1. Learn how to paper trade then study why stock go up n down.

2. Don't always buy cheap stocks that are downtrending as it can go lower and lower.

I remember the last time we were talking about Hibiscs it was around 68c. Lowest today was 25.5c. That's a 62.5% capital wiped out in just one month!  shakehead.gif  shocking.gif
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ermm i tot is buy low sell high? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yahiko @ Nov 3 2015, 03:59 PM)
ermm i tot is buy low sell high?  laugh.gif
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Motto thread ni is to buy high, sell even higher whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 3 2015, 03:53 PM)
Errr..... laugh.gif

post #1459

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This would be a good example to be filed under 'trading stocks because expectations the stock will be fried due to massive placement plans'.

Traders do take positions in a stock once they hear about big placement deals.

They love it. wink.gif

In the world of the stock market, agreements are usually made so that the placement takers benefit from taking up placement shares....
So traders buy, trying to gain a position in the stock by buying in early......

well... what are we seeing now?
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I see 3 plausible outcomes:

a. Insiders making the stock go lower, so the new investor can enter at a cheaper price at market rate or at fixed price.

b. Insiders themselves together with swing traders trade when the price is lower (e.g if you bought at 25.5c and sell at close to suspended price of 36c = 41.1% return in few mins/hours)

c. The traders who bought during the announcement of the proposed private placement will get slaughtered.

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post Nov 3 2015, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(yahiko @ Nov 3 2015, 03:59 PM)
ermm i tot is buy low sell high?  laugh.gif
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Yahiko-san, that's the ideal strategy: buy low and sell high, provided the share price does u-turn and go up higher.

If reverse and go down lower, is also possible ma.

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triple tap >_<

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Nov 3 2015, 04:07 PM)
Yahiko-san, that's the ideal strategy: buy low and sell high, provided the share price does u-turn and go up higher.

If reverse and go down lower, is also possible ma.
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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Nov 3 2015, 04:07 PM)
Yahiko-san, that's the ideal strategy: buy low and sell high, provided the share price does u-turn and go up higher.

If reverse and go down lower, is also possible ma.
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buy what u afford to loose.. so if go down i no need go down with it (jump building)

inb4 newbie here pandai lecture old bird in this thread rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 3 2015, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Nov 3 2015, 04:03 PM)
I see 3 plausible outcomes:

a. Insiders making the stock go lower, so the new investor can enter at a cheaper price at market rate or at fixed price.

b. Insiders themselves together with swing traders trade when the price is lower (e.g if you bought at 25.5c and sell at close to suspended price of 36c = 41.1% return in few mins/hours)

c. The traders who bought during the announcement of the proposed private placement will get slaughtered.
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This is nothing to do with what's happening now but based on the recent discussion.

Remember there was zero fundamental attraction about the stock...
and the one and only one reason to take a position is to attempt to benefit from any goreng activities arising from the share placement.

If not for the share placement, why would anyone want touch this stock? wink.gif

So this is all about understanding the risks.

Risk management is very important.
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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Nov 3 2015, 04:07 PM)
Yahiko-san, that's the ideal strategy: buy low and sell high, provided the share price does u-turn and go up higher.

If reverse and go down lower, is also possible ma.
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Dude...

if you want to be good, stay focus at all times. smile.gif



buy low and sell high ..... is one misaligned statements in the stock market.


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post Nov 3 2015, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 3 2015, 04:16 PM)
Dude...

if you want to be good, stay focus at all times. smile.gif
buy low and sell high ..... is one misaligned statements in the stock market.
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Yes boss, I'm doing ok with what I think is suitable for me.

However, I recently tried a breakout strategy u mentioned last time. Bought VS. Let's see how things pend out.
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 3 2015, 04:16 PM)
Dude...

if you want to be good, stay focus at all times. smile.gif
buy low and sell high ..... is one misaligned statements in the stock market.
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yup.. i learn after few buy sell.. since my capital not big will concentrate in 1 or 2 stock rather than many many .. earn liau not enough to pay broker fees laugh.gif

still learning icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Nov 3 2015, 04:32 PM)
Yes boss, I'm doing ok with what I think is suitable for me.

However, I recently tried a breakout strategy u mentioned last time. Bought VS.  Let's see how things pend out.
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Each strategy/setup will have its risk.
You the user needs to adjust so that you are comfortable with the setup and you know where and when you can and WILL go wrong.

Buy low sell high is sold as an investment gospel.
So often that many times newbies thinking that they could muster these four words, reckon they are already on dunno what advanced level.
There's just so many ways it can and WILL go wrong.



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